Nazgul and Butterfangers don't concern themselves much with evidence. Their hypothesis is "supported" by assumptions, their main one being; because there were labor camps along the line west of Treblinka and the eastward bound trains made stops at them, the Jews who got off the train at t...

No doubt there was a forced labor camp near Lemberg (Lwow) but there was a massive ghetto there, and yeah, another cause for the delays could have been loading up non-employable Jewish "resettlers" from nearby ghettos. Thanks for this interesting material. The article says that the train ...

And that this "new information" solves "the looming question of "where did they [Jews] go?". IOW, the answer to the question of "If the Jews weren't murdered at Treblinka II, then were did they go?" is, according to Butterfangers: Somewhere west of Treblinka. Ther...

If anyone is interested in or has been doing research on these mapped sites and/or is willing to assist in identifying errors with the locations plotted on the map linked above, it is much appreciated. Please share any findings. Please take note of the new camps in Ukraine. Ukraine Camps . There is...

If anyone is interested in or has been doing research on these mapped sites and/or is willing to assist in identifying errors with the locations plotted on the map linked above, it is much appreciated. Please share any findings. Please take note of the new camps in Ukraine. Ukraine Camps . There is...

Any camps East of Poland conflict with the narrative that the Einsatzgruppen exterminated all the Jews there. If they assume it happened... It would require that Western Jews are to be resettled there. And that conflicts with the notion that they were gassed. My understanding is that Einsatz and re...

When I read that there were several thousand camps along the rail route and people were dropped off and collected from these camps once more I want to scream! There were never thousands of camps they were simply collection points that normal people would refer to as train stations... If they existe...

Hour long stops are needed for this process. Anyone familiar with railways will know there are "sidings" where a train will pull into to allow another train to pass. This are located at various places along all railways, not in cities and not regarded as a stop. Nazgul, reading into the c...

Hilberg says about Die Fahrplananordnung 587 in Shoah: "low class of secrecy" and continues: "cannot see the word Geheim - secret. It's astonishing to me." Hilberg mainly speculates the meaning and content of Fahrplananordnung and suggests that if it would say: "Geheim!&quo...

Nazgul, do you deny that the revisionist thesis is that the Nazis Final Solution to the Jewish problem was a forced emigration program and not an extermination pogram? I have no idea if there is a "revisionist thesis". That is off topic for this thread and will not be commented on. Cited ...

What is this though? Or am I misreading it? https://i.imgur.com/M59QUWb.jpg https://www.jta.org/archive/gestapo-say-they-will-exterminate-all-jews-in-camps-before-retreating-from-poland The article is dated 27 August 1944 . The article from the JTA states: Thousands of Jews are still being held in ...

Is it possible that the lengthy stops included time taken to let the Jews (and the train crews) out of the trains to go to the toilet, get some water and some food, give sick Jews some care or drop off Jews who were too sick to continue, in the hopes that taking a break at a camp would help them ge...

Is it possible that the lengthy stops included time taken to let the Jews (and the train crews) out of the trains to go to the toilet, get some water and some food, give sick Jews some care or drop off Jews who were too sick to continue, in the hopes that taking a break at a camp would help them ge...

Czestochowa seems to be the home of barbers. Czestochowa was also home to the Hasag Pelcery Zwangarbeitslager für Juden with 4735 häftling. HASAG were manufacturers of explosives. Interesting Rytz ended up there from TII. While he has this extraordinary escape story it is most likely he was transit...

Now the newest twist on the revisionist thesis regarding Treblinka, is this: The information given was to suggest another possibility to the claim Raul Hilberg has made; interpretation of Scheduling Order (Fahrplananordnung) 587. He says: We know from other documents that upon arrival in the death ...