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- Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:04 am
- Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
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Re: BA's case for orthodoxy
Just on a note there. How do you know this was outlined at Wannsee (deportation/castration of Half Jews)? It's not implausible that this was discussed, of course. But how would one know what was discussed at the meeting. I see there's an additional document from Schlegelberger dated April 1942 wher...
- Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:45 am
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- Topic: BA's case for orthodoxy
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Re: BA's case for orthodoxy
fireofice wrote:Nothing in the Korherr report contradicts the notion that the Final Solution was to be fully implemented after the war.
So it was said to be partially implemented in the Korherr report?
- Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:00 am
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bombsaway seems to forget there are people who write entire books about the "Holocaust" filled with claims of everything from masturbation machines, rollercoasters of death, piles of burning babies -- you name it. Sure people lie for various reasons, eg money and clout. Your first example...
- Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:54 am
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Re: BA's case for orthodoxy
It's called weighing options. There doesn't have to be "no chance" a strategy can succeed to choose not to do it. All that is required is that you think one strategy has a better chance of succeeding than another. For whatever reasons, Eichmann thought what he did would have a better chan...
- Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:34 pm
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What you wrote sounds perfectly good motivation to me. Instead of convincing people genocide never occurred, he would claim that it was the Jews fault. Why didn't he tell the truth? What difference would that make? Why have revisionists devoted millions of words to the subject and endured so much p...
- Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:20 am
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Re: BA's case for orthodoxy
fireofice wrote:What you wrote sounds perfectly good motivation to me. Instead of convincing people genocide never occurred, he would claim that it was the Jews fault.
Why didn't he tell the truth?
- Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:26 am
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Sassen wasn't necessarily "convinced" of anything since it's obvious he was a hustler playing the part of being very anti-Jewish. Sassen seemed to have prompted Eichmann to tell "bad boy" Holocaust stories and Eichmann delivered. How did he do this (in bold) exactly? Your 'selli...
- Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:15 am
- Forum: 'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News
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Re: BA's case for orthodoxy
He worked in the German intelligence (helped with an anti freemason museum) for a few months but then transferred to the Jewish Affairs department. OK, you mean he worked for the RSHA... Which was the then German equivalent to the CIA. Is there any reason to believe that he worked with intelligence...
- Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:24 am
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Re: BA's case for orthodoxy
Hektor wrote:bombsaway wrote:Wilbur wrote:
Was Eichmann working for intelligence services during his life? For which ones would that be?
He worked in the German intelligence (helped with an anti freemason museum) for a few months but then transferred to the Jewish Affairs department.
- Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:02 am
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Playing anti-Semite and the staged confronting of Eichmann with Hololiterature is extremely shady. As I said there is a possibility that the entire thing was some sort of set up, in my mind a more likely theory than the previous ones offered here. But when you actually run through what this would h...
- Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:06 am
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Not sure what your point (or source) is in or on this. How was Sassen a "committed Revisionist"? As you can see above, in Sassen's dictation he says the Holocaust was a "legend" and had been manufactured in part to get Israel to extort payments from Germany. He was convinced of ...
- Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:43 pm
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In your campfire story hour theory, you guys aren't taking into account that Sassen was a committed revisionist and disturbed enough by Eichmann's statements to suspect he was working for the Jews. There was no alignment between them when it came to Eichmann's statements and views on genocide. Sasse...
- Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:34 pm
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bombsaway wrote: Where did I claim Eichmann never lied during any of his pretrial statements? Right here, page 16 of the current thread: I think the only people that agree Eichmann lied (consciously uttering mistruths) in his pre-capture statements are revisionists. Please do your best to explain t...
- Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:32 pm
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OK but you didn't see a bunch of people getting mass killed there, which would be a big event that would stick out in your mind. He never claimed to. In 41 he just saw the gas chambers being prepared. Browning speculates a little further down that he visited a site near Lublin (hence the confusion ...
- Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:29 am
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I'm saying it's reasonable for people to misremember details like the name of a camp, or maybe that they visited it in 1942 instead of 1943. It's far less likely in my view for somebody to misremember being intimately involved in a genocidal program for years, witnessing gassings, shootings, etc. F...
