Iris , Where are you going with all of this? I can't tell what you're trying say. Well Archie, to begin, take a look at this: hypothesis noun an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument Now look at this: Butterfangers: The hypothesis being put forth is that the question of "where...

And speaking of Butterfangers: I'll save you a Google search since you apparently can't be bothered to learn common terms and phrases in English before debating here. My definition agrees with this one (the legal definition): "The legal definition of direct evidence is evidence that directly pr...

Instead of "asking questions" you should just make the arguments you think you are conveying with your questions. I will engage with that. But I have answered questions you have been asking and you have not engaged with a single point or piece of evidence I have provided. You don't make a...

You aren't engaging with anything I'm saying, I'm just going to ignore you (unless you have constructive arguments to make) and suggest others do the same. IOW, you cannot defend your thesis in an honest and open debate, so you are going to dodge the simple questions that shoot holes in your assump...

PR, you're dodging questions: Prudentregret, is there any direct evidence that jews who were put on trains and transited east on the Treblinka line actually set foot inside the camp known as Treblinka II? (A simple yes or no will do.) Prudentregret, is there any indirect evidence that jews who were ...

Iris: BTW PR, are you claiming that Treblinka II is an "unknown location"? PR: I am saying that the far greater part of the deportees did not arrive at TII.., That's not an answer to my question. Answer please. PR: I am saying that the far greater part of the deportees did not arrive at TI...

PR: The third possibility is that the camp we all know as T-II was a sorting camp used for the collection, sorting, disinfestation, temporary storage, and transport of property confiscated from Jews throughout the course of resettlement and the liquidated ghettoes... In this capacity, it was a Jewis...

Iris: Prudentregret, regardless of whether someone claims or assumes a figure of 10,000 or 1,000,000 "Jews who set foot in TII specifically" - "Is there any evidence that jews who were transited to Treblinka and actually set foot inside the TII camp were not killed and were transited...

Butterfangers: The evidence we do have that this occurred is indirect (such as the fact that Jews were transported further east via direct transports (i.e. not stopping at AR camps), that there was obviously no mass murder in TII, that some claim to have transited out of "Treblinka" (to Ma...

Butterfingers: Direct evidence is evidence that directly proves a key fact. Indirect evidence, which is sometimes called circumstantial evidence, is a set of facts that, if they are true, allows a reasonable person to infer the fact in question. Butterfangers: Hunt's Treblinka documentary had some w...

Iris: It appears Butterfangers' thesis is based on assumption. Butterfangers: So is yours, even more so than mine. Iris: Show me the thesis that I have proffered here in this thread. Exact quotes please. Butterfangers: You have not proferred any thesis here in this thread Butterfingers forced to ad...

Iris: Butterfangers, is there any evidence that at least one jew actually set foot inside the Treblinka II camp, was not killed and was transited further east? Butterfangers: Not TII, specifically, not that I am aware. Butterfangers; I recall seeing some Revisionist works that cite some limited exam...

Butterfangers: You also ask about "evidence" which can have different 'levels'. "Evidence" can mean "hard proof" or it can mean "indications thereof". We can find direct evidence of something, or simply evidence that suggests a higher probability of one event...

Iris: Butterfangers, is there any evidence that jews who were put on trains and transited east on the Treblinka line actually set foot inside the camp known as Treblinka II? (A simple yes or no will do.) Butterfangers, if your answer to the above question is yes, is there any evidence that at least...

Iris: It appears Butterfangers' thesis is based on assumption. Butterfangers: So is yours, even more so than mine. Show me the thesis that I have proffered here in this thread. Exact quotes please. Butterfangers: Those who remained on the line by the time it reached Treblinka/Malkinia may have tran...