WWII / rape

[borjastick]

[This thread is a result of my moving posts from another thread at the 'holocaust' forum. M1]

Blacksmith can you elaborate somewhat on your meetings and dealings with some of the jewish translators without giving too much away. It might show some light on the context of these people.

[Hektor]

I think the rape allegations are a subject for the WW2 section on the forum.

There were of course several isolated cases were German soldiers engaged in rape or other crimes. But this was several punished by the authorities then. Rape was commonly committed by Allied soldiers, but I still got to see were this was properly punished let alone followed by an execution of the perpetrator. That's of course the case with almost all the war crimes committed by the Allies.

[blacksmith]

Hi Borjastick,

The story I am about to tell has quite an ironic ending. In 1945 after the British took over from the Russians in Styria, my father was picked up by their military and taken away to a POW camp. It took my Mother and me quite some time to discover in which Lager he was taken, where I had my first encounter with these Jewish translators, who were of Austrian origin. The man was a disgusting human being with big yellow teeth who never spoke below the level of shouting. I believe he thought that he intimidated us with his arrogant stance.

The Brits, based on my father's Germanic sounding name, "informed" him that he was in effect a German soldier and not only that but he must have been in the SS. In the beginning, the Jewish sergeant continued denying us that my father was in the camp, despite the fact that we had actually spoken to him through the barbed wires. A German POW who was in charge of liaison with the "outside" world tried to reassure us that the Sergeant behaved that way with everybody as he was full of hate towards anyone in the Axis military. Regardless of all his intimidations, we insisted to have father let our of the camp and we insisted to speak with the commanding officer to clear up the matter. For days this SOB blocked us from getting higher than him but somehow information was got to higher authorities about our situation and when they examined the facts, they realized their mistake and let my father out.

Until this encounter I did not have a great deal against Jews but believe me he totally infected me with his unabated hate. And here comes the ironic part of my story, after all the trials and tribulations we had to endure you would have thought my would have been happy with us. Apparently the POW camp was set up for an SS unit that fought in Italy, and just at the point of my father's liberation they were shipping the whole bunch to Italy to be investigated by the Italians. My father's complaint was that we prevented him from having a trip to Italy. (About some ten years later, my father and mother did go to Italy totally unencumbered by any suspicions of having committed a war crime.

I am sure those of us who lived in Austria or Germany in 1945 must have had similar experiences in meeting such Jews who returned with pure hate and vengeance in their hearts.

Blacksmith

[borjastick]

Thanks for that most interesting account and direct connection with the immediate post war situation.

I understand the jew you were talking of was an odious little sh*t but to be fair he may have lost family and property etc, though blaming everyone around him wasn't going to help his cause much. In hindsight I would guess your father was better off not being shipped to Italy as his fate may have been somewhat darker in the hands of a wild bunch of Italian back pedallers...

[blacksmith]

Borjastick,

You're right. Things did work out for the better. Talking about the feelings of the Jewish translator, I came across the same hate even to-day by the Jews I know. Their dislike of anything German is the total rejection anything German even if those products which are better than any other.

Let us not forget, of course, our old friend Wiesel, who admonishes us to "have a small place reserved in our hearts for the hate for the Germans". NOW THAT IS HATING. If Zundel or Rudolph had said such a thing they would be crucified instantly by the ADL.

And how about Kaufman's book "Germany must Perish" here is how Wikipedia describes it:
"Germany Must Perish! is the title of a 104-page book written by Theodore Newman Kaufman and self-published in 1941, during the Holocaust, which advocates the genocide, through sterilization of all Germans, and the territorial dismemberment of Germany.[1] Kaufman founded the Argyle Press of Newark, New Jersey, USA, in order to self-publish his racist sentiments.
The book was most notably used by Nazi Germany as propaganda to allege that "the Jews" were plotting against the country.[2] (What do they mean by "allege" it's plain as day that Kaufman meant to eradicate the Germans even before the so called holocaust was established.)
In the words of the 1945 Journal of Modern History, the book was intended to be "little more than self-indulgence in dire vituperation by a man who sees Germany as the sole cause of the world's woes."[3][4]"

You will note how the writers try a soft landing by saying that it was nothing more than self-indulgence. BS.

Blacksmith

[Jerzy Ulicki-Rek]

Blacksmith said:"Their dislike of anything German "

Except the very German "Mercedes" cars

Jerzy

[hermod]

"Ravishing the Women of Conquered Europe" by Dr Austin J. App is an interesting reading on that matter.

[hermod]

And how about Kaufman's book "Germany must Perish" here is how Wikipedia describes it:
"Germany Must Perish! is the title of a 104-page book written by Theodore Newman Kaufman and self-published in 1941, during the Holocaust, which advocates the genocide, through sterilization of all Germans,

Theodore Kaufman wrote the book in late 1940. This was a full year before the USA entered the Second World War, and also long before the stories of mass killings of Jews began to circulate. (The Wannsee Conference, allegedly authorizing the "Holocaust", was held in January 1942). Thus a common philo-Semitic defense of "Germany must Perish", that it was a shocked reaction to the "Holocaust", is verifiably false.

The full 96-page booklet sold for 25 cents, and enjoyed "brisk sales" for a period in 1941. It was published in March of 1941 by Argyle Press of Newark, New Jersey. A preliminary edition of the book may have been published as early as December 1940, with a very small circulation.

A number of American newspapers reviewed the book when it was published, including New York Times, the Washington Post, Time Magazine, and the Philadelphia Record. A March 24, 1941, Time magazine review called it "sensational".

Hitler reportedly read a copy of the book in August of 1941. Subsequently, he gave Goebbels permission to have Jews wear yellow armbands. Goebbels changed this on his own to yellow-stars.