Auschwitz question [Causes of death]

[AxisHistory2006]

As soon as Jews were brought to Auschwitz, were most of them led off the train, and into the gas chamber to die? According to Source: Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death camp, p 390 and p 392

and is there any evidence that Nazis tended to hide deaths through lethal injection under the guise of “typhus” and other “natural causes"

[borjastick]

As soon as Jews were brought to Auschwitz, were most of them led off the train, and into the gas chamber to die? According to Source: Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death camp, p 390 and p 392

and is there any evidence that Nazis tended to hide deaths through lethal injection under the guise of “typhus” and other “natural causes"

The first part of your question is correct in their minds... In other words that is the standard story, yarn, they try to perpetuate. The claim is that trains arrived and were emptied onto the platforms Then people were divided into male and female and children etc. Then they were marched to selection where they were assessed for benefit. Those who were fit and able were sent one way to be processed for work in Auschwitz and other camps and those who were unfit for work were sent immediately to the gas chambers. Rubbish of course. We know this due to the amount of people who were ill or of an age, young and old, who survived. Also because the gas chamber claims on many levels simply doesn't fly. Evidence dear boy, evidence, as someone once said.

Not sure at all about your second question. News to me if that were to be the case.

[Mortimer]

Anne Frank is one of the most famous figures in holocaust propaganda and she was at Auschwitz. Maybe you can explain why this teenage girl was not "gassed" as per the usual claim ?
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[Hektor]

Anne Frank is one of the most famous figures in holocaust propaganda and she was at Auschwitz. Maybe you can explain why this teenage girl was not "gassed" as per the usual claim ?
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Indeed. Quite officially she died in Auschwitz. Also not gassed. Typhus is blamed.

And Otto Frank did expect to meet her again after the war. So he didn't suspect that the Germans were eager to kill prisoner neither.

[AxisHistory2006]

As soon as Jews were brought to Auschwitz, were most of them led off the train, and into the gas chamber to die? According to Source: Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death camp, p 390 and p 392

and is there any evidence that Nazis tended to hide deaths through lethal injection under the guise of “typhus” and other “natural causes"

The first part of your question is correct in their minds... In other words that is the standard story, yarn, they try to perpetuate. The claim is that trains arrived and were emptied onto the platforms Then people were divided into male and female and children etc. Then they were marched to selection where they were assessed for benefit. Those who were fit and able were sent one way to be processed for work in Auschwitz and other camps and those who were unfit for work were sent immediately to the gas chambers. Rubbish of course. We know this due to the amount of people who were ill or of an age, young and old, who survived. Also because the gas chamber claims on many levels simply doesn't fly. Evidence dear boy, evidence, as someone once said.

Not sure at all about your second question. News to me if that were to be the case.

Do you know any ill or old survivors that were at Auschwitz? The argument I am in with someone is saying they were taken to the gas chamber right off the train, is there any counter evidence?

[Hektor]

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Do you know any ill or old survivors that were at Auschwitz? The argument I am in with someone is saying they were taken to the gas chamber right off the train, is there any counter evidence?

The Frank family would be an example. Several of the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial witnesses were sick, even got medical treatment in Auschwitz.

Counter evidence? There is no evidence that anyone was ever put into a homicidal gas chambers. Allegations of that kind, just get high levels of publicity.

[slob]

Wasn't there an old video a few years ago about the liberation of Auschwitz and some of the people walking out the gates, amongst them were midgets, disabled and deformed people on crutches etc, if they killed all as soon as they arrived why did they allow these disabled people to live?

[hermod]

Anne Frank is one of the most famous figures in holocaust propaganda and she was at Auschwitz. Maybe you can explain why this teenage girl was not "gassed" as per the usual claim ?
viewtopic.php?t=9924

Indeed. Quite officially she died in Auschwitz. Also not gassed. Typhus is blamed.

And Otto Frank did expect to meet her again after the war. So he didn't suspect that the Germans were eager to kill prisoner neither.

You meant Belsen, didn't you?

[Hektor]

Anne Frank is one of the most famous figures in holocaust propaganda and she was at Auschwitz. Maybe you can explain why this teenage girl was not "gassed" as per the usual claim ?
viewtopic.php?t=9924

Indeed. Quite officially she died in Auschwitz. Also not gassed. Typhus is blamed.

And Otto Frank did expect to meet her again after the war. So he didn't suspect that the Germans were eager to kill prisoner neither.

You meant Belsen, didn't you?

That's correct. I meant she was moved to Auschwitz. (and died of typhus in Belsen).

[AxisHistory2006]

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Do you know any ill or old survivors that were at Auschwitz? The argument I am in with someone is saying they were taken to the gas chamber right off the train, is there any counter evidence?

The Frank family would be an example. Several of the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial witnesses were sick, even got medical treatment in Auschwitz.

Counter evidence? There is no evidence that anyone was ever put into a homicidal gas chamber. Allegations of that kind, just get high levels of publicity.

Thanks for the response.

How about "evidence" like The Franke-Gricksch Report? What is the revisionist view on this? Thanks!

[Hektor]

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Do you know any ill or old survivors that were at Auschwitz? The argument I am in with someone is saying they were taken to the gas chamber right off the train, is there any counter evidence?

The Frank family would be an example. Several of the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial witnesses were sick, even got medical treatment in Auschwitz.

Counter evidence? There is no evidence that anyone was ever put into a homicidal gas chamber. Allegations of that kind, just get high levels of publicity.

Thanks for the response.

How about "evidence" like The Franke-Gricksch Report? What is the revisionist view on this? Thanks!

What's the "Franke-Gricksch Report" supposed to be evidence for?

[greatmystery]

Do you know any ill or old survivors that were at Auschwitz? The argument I am in with someone is saying they were taken to the gas chamber right off the train, is there any counter evidence?

The burden of proof always lies on the person making the accusation. The Holocaust is no exception of this. You should not ask what is the evidence that Jews didn't get killed right off the train. Rather you should seek evidence that it did happen.

[greatmystery]

The Frank family would be an example. Several of the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial witnesses were sick, even got medical treatment in Auschwitz.

Counter evidence? There is no evidence that anyone was ever put into a homicidal gas chamber. Allegations of that kind, just get high levels of publicity.

Thanks for the response.

How about "evidence" like The Franke-Gricksch Report? What is the revisionist view on this? Thanks!

What's the "Franke-Gricksch Report" supposed to be evidence for?

It's always great to see CoDoH pages coming up in search results.

[Hektor]

Do you know any ill or old survivors that were at Auschwitz? The argument I am in with someone is saying they were taken to the gas chamber right off the train, is there any counter evidence?

The burden of proof always lies on the person making the accusation. The Holocaust is no exception of this. You should not ask what is the evidence that Jews didn't get killed right off the train. Rather you should seek evidence that it did happen.

Exactly.... But that rule has been switched for "NAZIS", since we all know that they are "evil" and it is 'common knowledge' that the "Holocaust happened".... Hence the roles are reversed and the burden of proof has been shifted.

The funny thing is how people respond when they are challenged to proof the Holocaust (e.g. the gassing of a million in Auschwitz). One would expect them to start with proof for e.g. one or several Jews being gassed in Auschwitz. But that's not what they are doing. While it is often asserted, such 'fact' with evidence has never been published, so people can't find this evidence. Instead they come with "survivors" that went to Auschwitz and 'never' saw their family again. That's of course not testable and it doesn't prove anything in regards to the Holocaust neither. In fact that this is the modus operandi is rather concerning. Being want of evidence they turn around they shift the burden of proof. And then they come up with: "Where are all those people, if they weren't gassed". That this question can't be answered feasibly, since research on this would be too expensive for private initiative (let alone that it would be obstructed), they think they have found a silver bullet now. "The Deniers can't answer all my questions, so they must be lying/wrong". And that settles it for the willfully ignorant, which is a pretty big demographic in this matter.
So the first issue is a lack of ability to think logically, to think methodologically about the matter at hand. If they can't even do that, they can not be convinced and remain in their mode of persuasion anyway. And it helps them function. Being a "Holocaust Denier" would set them at odds with a large (and influential demographic) So rather not be one, rather accept that your and your neighbors kids will be fed atrocity propaganda lies designed to manipulate them for the rest of your lives. Then we can 'all live together in peace'. And we won't have 'Antisemitism/Racism/Homophobia' or whatever fashionable issue comes up. That is literally what the grandson of Rudolf Hoess said during a talk. Turns out, he's a fraudster as well. The rest of the family isn't.

[AxisHistory2006]

The Frank family would be an example. Several of the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial witnesses were sick, even got medical treatment in Auschwitz.

Counter evidence? There is no evidence that anyone was ever put into a homicidal gas chamber. Allegations of that kind, just get high levels of publicity.

Thanks for the response.

How about "evidence" like The Franke-Gricksch Report? What is the revisionist view on this? Thanks!

What's the "Franke-Gricksch Report" supposed to be evidence for?

When it states "puts them to sleep" is meant to be the gassing.