1. I fail to see the difference you try to portray between box carts to cattle carts . Your clear intention is portray a picture that there was an like some normal passenger trip on a train, where in fact it was not.
2. Fact is that those box carts or cattle carts where people where forced into where locked from the outside , they had but a small barbed window for air , the passengers included the elderly and babies that where locked in those carts sometimes for days , they had no toilets , no food and no water. Many of the very young, the old and the sick would die because of the inhumane conditions during the journey.
3. Trying to describe this journey as something normal has nothing to do with reality.
4. Your may choose to ignore thousands of witness accounts , i do not. Same as you ignore all the documents that prove you wrong .
5. Sorry i do not think it possible that all the witnesses are lying or that all the documents are fake. No historian can ignore all that. To do so is a sin to reality and to the truth.
1. Box cars and cattle cars are not the same, simple as that. Not to mention the large numbers of regular passenger cars that were frequently used. See pictures. Indeed, it is my intention to debunk the 'cattle cars' canard. Which I feel I have done. I note you cannot show me otherwise. You do stomp up & down though.
2. Yes people were placed in trains. no argument there. Yes the doors were locked as they are in routine passenger trains.
Yes there were all ages, which in itself makes no sense since the storyline says that all old Jews & young Jews were murdered. Why bother transporting them at great expense if the intent as to kill them?
If they were in passenger trains, which we know was frequently the case, then toilets were aplenty. As for boxcars, maybe not, but probably some makeshift arrangements, there was a war on. I wonder if the Japanese -Americans had toilets in the trains they were packed into? I wonder if the communist had toilets available for the millions they sent to the gulags?
Food & water was non-existent? Utterly wrong considering that they would be dead when they arrived at distant labor camps without such provisions. Why would the German want workers dead when they arrived a labor camps. Not much labor to be had from dead people.
Did some die enroute, probably so, but that was not what was intended, as I have pointed out.
3. Yes, frequent transport in passenger cars was more or less "normal". Given the nature of transport in general during WWII, the methods of transport for Jews was nothing particularly unusual. There was nasty a war on.
4. Yes, you can believe impossible, contradictory, and just plain laughable eyewitness accounts if you wish. After all, the 'holocau$t' is a religion. No doubt you believe in witchcraft too.
5. Again, I challenge you to start a thread on any single "eyewitness' that you find compelling. Tell us what they said, where they said it, and why you believe them
'holocau$t' historians?
OK, then tell us how the gas chambers supposedly worked that these "historians" believe in.
Show us excavations of the claimed huge mass graves that these charlatan "historians' claim exists.
Start a thread on any "document" you feel supports the '6M Jews, 5M other, & gas chambers' storyline.
Once again, my challenges to you, onetruth:
- I challenge you to start a thread on a single survivor who you find to be a credible witness to the alleged gassing of Jews, just one.
Tell us what they claim and why you find them credible. Here's your big chance.
- I challenge you to start a thread and tell us how the 'gas chambers' supposedly worked.
- I challenge you to start a thread and show us excavated enormous mass graves. Recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, or 250,000 at Sobibor. After all, Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
- Hannover
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
