Holocaust Remembrance Time Again...

[Waldgänger]

Wouldn't a mass execution of 30.000 people not leave tons of traces, if it was real?

This has always amused me as a claim, since the proofless Babi Yar supposedly saw 33,000 murdered in in 2-3 days, whereas the undeniably real NKVD massacre of Polish military & intelligentsia at Katyn saw 22,000 murdered from April 4-28, 1940. Twenty-four days to kill 22k, vs. 3 days at most to kill 33k, all of whom were so perfectly buried that none have ever been found? What a farce.

[Hektor]

Wouldn't a mass execution of 30.000 people not leave tons of traces, if it was real?

This has always amused me as a claim, since the proofless Babi Yar supposedly saw 33,000 murdered in in 2-3 days, whereas the undeniably real NKVD massacre of Polish military & intelligentsia at Katyn saw 22,000 murdered from April 4-28, 1940. Twenty-four days to kill 22k, vs. 3 days at most to kill 33k, all of whom were so perfectly buried that none have ever been found? What a farce.

One has to be pretty primed to believe this. And to push that through those that claim have to be assertive and adamant. And they were. As for the Katyn case, the Allied side was internally convinced that it wasn't a German deception to blame-shift it on the USSR, but that it was a quite real Soviet crime. The Soviets tried to blame it 'on the Fascists', even at Nuremberg. But apparently that was too much of an embarrassment and would endanger the whole framing at that case. So no conviction for this at Nuremberg. Didn't hinder the Soviets to frame some Germans for this internally. I think they even executed some Germans for this. Judicially camouflaged murder

For the vanishing of remains the Soviets found a solution. Paul Blobel made it all vanish. Don't find evidence? "The perpetrators were so fiendish to make it vanish." There was a Soviet 'documentary' on Babi Yar as well.

https://archive.org/details/SovietPropa ... sShootings
Assert the claims over and over again without a shred of evidence there.
The Baby Yar thing was pretty obviously pushed by the Soviets as a revenge for Katyn.
It is demonstrable false, yet no "Holocaust Historian" has admitted that ever. Also no calls for caution with propaganda claims... Well, it probably would blow of the cover completely. Because if general knowledge is that Baby Yar was a fraud, suspicion will rise for the other stories. Rather have some priest come up with 'Holocaust by bullets'. It's too good as a stand in for the fading gassing narrative.

[Turpitz]

NKVD massacre of Polish military & intelligentsia at Katyn saw 22,000 murdered from April 4-28, 1940.

I can remember years ago, on this forum, talking about Katyn a few times, but I wasn't aware the numbers were so high I was always under the impression it was ariound 6,000. That's the best part of a thousand people a day. Can you imagine the atmosphere in those woods? It must have been horrific, beyond belief, a real lefties paradise. Can you comprehend the type of people that carried this out? To this day the left paint themselves as so bloody righteous yet they are responsible for some of humanities most gruesome barbarism. They are so immoral that thay have no reservations about lying and putting others in the frame to cover their crimes.

I think they even executed some Germans for this. Judicially camouflaged murder

Yes, there were Germans executed for this, after commie show trials, like the Nuremberg show trials, was it at the Frankfurt show trials? I cannot recall now. I can remember talking about it fifteen years ago, on this forum somewhere, with Hannover.

There used to be some decent photos of this on the internet but I expect, as with most things, it is all censored now and removed. But I specifically remember Captured British P.O.W. Officers were flown in to witness the exhumations. Obviously as they were such gentlemen with a chivalrous sense of duty they kept quiet about witnessing the exhumations and weren't concerned with telling the truth.

[Hektor]

..... Can you imagine the atmosphere in those woods? It must have been horrific, beyond belief, a real lefties paradise. Can you comprehend the type of people that carried this out? To this day the left paint themselves as so bloody righteous yet they are responsible for some of humanities most gruesome barbarism. They are so immoral that they have no reservations about lying and putting others in the frame to cover their crimes......

And they were the biggest pushers of Holocaust propaganda for decades. Interesting, isn't it?
It's of course cultural capital to them, something they try to get as much mileage out as possible.

It's actually what stroke me in beginning. "The media and educators are permanently up in arms about the Holocaust".... "But they are almost silent, about Communist atrocities, of which there are plenty". There are of course some documentaries about this. Some books as well. But they are rare not exactly pushed... Nothing compared to Holocaust themed movies, books, articles, etc.

In South Africa 'the Holocasut' was a lefty/Jewish domain for decades. The majority of people didn't believe this, actually said that it smelled of atrocity propaganda, when confronted. This actually changed since 1994 given that it is now obligatory part of the school curriculum (It wasn't prior to 1994). There was however one court case against the local publishers of "Did six million really die". One book dealer in Pretoria openly offered and sold 'Holocaust Revisionist' books. His clientele were mostly older Germans... partially people with war experience. See he had books catering to them. He was a more recent immigrant with some of his children still born in Germany. His kids ain't Holocaust believers neither. They went to different schools though. The German school had sort of a ban against him. There is of course the issue that FRG teachers are important there to give class to kids there. People that are trained to be missionaries for the Holocaust.

In Germany it was the VVN-BDA a front organisation of the DDR-sponsored DKP that promoted Holocaust propaganda. And this in the vilest form. The VVN-BDA also got direct money from the DDR. Now why would the DDR have a vested interest in promoting the Holocaust in West-Germany? It seems nobody got the message from this, then. The official West-German government engaged in the same practices. At first mildly, but this grew to a central subject in the 1980s.