Keith Woods' twitter-thread about how the Holocaust-narrative got legs - 1,5 million views!

[Whodunnit?]

Keith Woods recently made a twitter tread where he credibly shows how the Holocaust-narrative got legs, and it is was seen by over 1,5 million people.

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status ... 1886909441

So what do you think?

[borjastick]

Don't know who Keith Woods is and frankly I don't care, he has verbal diarrhea and just proves that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

[Whodunnit?]

What's wrong with it? This is as far as you can go on twitter.

[borjastick]

He only got the views because old Elon replied to one of his insane messages and secondly because this Keith bloke thinks if he does a scatter gun approach and piles on the tweets he'll have some credibility. He doesn't. Ask him to get into the detail of anything he said and watch him crumble.

The one about the furnaces of Auschwitz was a good example. As if furnaces or crematory ovens were a bad thing and proves anything, they aren't and don't.

[Hektor]

Don't know who Keith Woods is and frankly I don't care, he has verbal diarrhea and just proves that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I don't find fault with this statement:

It is difficult to overstate how much everything since 1945 is shaped by the spectre of the Holocaust.
The period since is the story of the religious underpinning of the West shifting from Christianity to a new foundation built on a single commandment: "never again":
https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status ... 1886909441

In fact he is spot on there. The Holocaust isn't 'like a religion', it is THE RELIGION of the West. It effectively has replaced Christianity as religious underpinning in virtually all Western Societies. As Claude Lanzmann said: "Auschwitz is the Refutation of Christ".
They created a mythical Hitler a Hitler 2.0. and used him to replace Jesus and Satan at the same time.
One isn't from the Devil any longer, one is "like Hitler" or "another Hitler", when one wants to make war against someone. For the degenerate West Putin is 'another Hitler' and Putin fights the Ukrainian regime, because they are "Nazis". And people buy this on both sides.

(Supposed) Sayings of Hitler are used to give statements moral authority, even if that is in an inverted way. If Hitler said something, we have to be against it. If he was against something, this suddenly has moral credence now. Look at virtually any social, cultural or political issue that was on the agenda the past 8 decades and you probably will see what I mean. Unless you really don't want to. And some really don't, as that would actually destroy their religion and they don't want this. Their identity and moral framework would seriously suffer, once the Hitler Myth (and the Holocaust is essentially to this) would be destroyed.

It's perhaps a good idea to write a longer essay on this or even a book.... One doesn't even have to 'deny the Holocaust', just debate it's cultural function during the past 80 years. Not that I think that the publishing industry will be too fond of it. But they could really invoke "Holocaust Denial Laws" against the publishers, distributors and/or writers.

Fun fact: The Holocaust Timeline started long before 'Hitler'... which gives it a 'prophetic' underpinning.

[Whodunnit?]

I don't know what you mean. I've been following him for 4-5 years now. He is definitely not a believer, I would be very surprised if he had changed his mind. He moved further to the center though.

[Hektor]

I don't know what you mean. I've been following him for 4-5 time now. He is definitely not a believer, I would be very surprised if he had changed his mind. He moved further to the center though.

But it seems he found a way to come around being ousted as a "Holocaust Denier"...

... On the other hand: That the Holocaust Myth is like a religion many knew already for decades... I actually mentioned this impression to evangelical Christians' decades ago and they admitted that it indeed has something of a cult like nature. Social Psychologists should notice this as well. But I doubt they are brave enough to publish about this.... Because those with an interest in the Myth hardly have an interest in 'demythologization'.

[Whodunnit?]

I don't know what you mean. I've been following him for 4-5 time now. He is definitely not a believer, I would be very surprised if he had changed his mind. He moved further to the center though.

But it seems he found a way to come around being ousted as a "Holocaust Denier"...

... On the other hand: That the Holocaust Myth is like a religion many knew already for decades... I actually mentioned this impression to evangelical Christians' decades ago and they admitted that it indeed has something of a cult like nature. Social Psychologists should notice this as well. But I doubt they are brave enough to publish about this.... Because those with an interest in the Myth hardly have an interest in 'demythologization'.

Keith Woods is in the Nick Fuentes-camp now. Fuentes and his followers also aren't believers, but they also don't want to lose their reach by going to hard on that topic. A lot of young people approach the topic of the Holocaust in a different way: instead of engaging in a serious discussion, they either ridicule it or just say (and I quote Fuentes): "I don't care about your dead grandmother". Which in my opinion is a good strategy for them. Young people don't have any personal connection to world war 2. They deeply mistrust the media, they don't identify with their government, and they grow up with all the dark sides of the internet and desensitized, so you can't shock them with footage from concentration camps or schmaltzy movies like "Schindler's List". They are weary of nonsense like this:

(Anthony Blinken's Holocaust story)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-LqgDkMeQE

The holocaust-narrative requires that it's taken seriously. If every mention of it, every story, if every attempt to use the Holocaust as an instrument of power is only met with ridicule and rolling eyes, it's dead. In the end, it has only power if you play along. I don't see how they can make Zoomer care as much about the Holocaust as previous generations.

[Hektor]

I don't know what you mean. I've been following him for 4-5 time now. He is definitely not a believer, I would be very surprised if he had changed his mind. He moved further to the center though.

But it seems he found ....in 'demythologization'.

Keith Woods is in the Nick Fuentes-camp now. Fuentes and his followers also aren't believers, but they also don't want to lose their reach by going to hard on that topic. A lot of young people approach the topic of the Holocaust in a different way: instead of engaging in a serious discussion, they either ridicule it or just say (and I quote Fuentes): "I don't care about your dead grandmother". Which in my opinion is a good strategy for them. Young people don't have any personal connection to world war 2. They deeply mistrust the media, they don't identify with their government, and they grow up with all the dark sides of the internet and desensitized, so you can't shock them with footage from concentration camps or schmaltzy movies like "Schindler's List". They are weary of nonsense like this:

(Anthony Blinken's Holocaust story)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-LqgDkMeQE

The holocaust-narrative requires that it's taken seriously. If every mention of it, every story, if every attempt to use the Holocaust as an instrument of power is only met with ridicule and rolling eyes, it's dead. In the end, it has only power if you play along. I don't see how they can make Zoomer care as much about the Holocaust as previous generations.

I'm not really following things in the US. I just realize that decadence and insanity took a big leap in the US over the past ten to fifteen years. And that it wasn't that rosy already for decades. Not sure when Holocausting started in the US. Guess the Holocaust Soap Opera was a thrill in this. To me the US is on the way out... on its way to social collapse. OR that they set up something really dystopian there. Well, I can't see that in a glass ball, so it's speculation.

"I don't care about your grandmother"... this shocks people, when it's said. But why should anybody care about a Jews presumably dead grand-mother? I mean, lots of people lost their grand mothers already and they don't bring this up and demand a special sort of respect based on this.
The other thing is that this is 'weaponized empathy'. Essentially using the empathy and decency of people against them. IMHO this is an especially despicable behavior to run around, use people's benevolence, decency empathy and then turn it against them.

It should come as no surprise that younger people are sick and tired for this... Because this type of approach also became common in parenting and schooling.

Cults generally can't handle humor. They can't have it that somebody does ridicule or laugh about their leadership, icons, ideas, etc... And they can't handle it even in the slightest way... The Talmud also disparages those that laugh about the Rabbis. As far as the Holocaust is concerned the ploy is protected against humor pretty cleverly. Simply because most people won't see it as laughing about ridiculous claims being made. They see it as laughing at something like a funeral. Or at a person that is mourning. This is actually extremely manipulative. It is covert aggressive behavior. In fact it seems to tick the boxes on a number of psychopathological disorders.

Indeed ridicule can be a response there. But rationally demythologizing and exposing the manipulative psychological manipulation taking place is perhaps the most effective way to deal with Holocaust Indoctrination.

[EtienneSC]

Don't know who Keith Woods is and frankly I don't care, he has verbal diarrhea and just proves that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

A bit of Irish loquacity doesn't go amiss, given what we're used to from the other side. Clearly the fellow has a knowledge of history and politics from a Catholic perspective. That is as important as banging on about cremation times and cyanide residues as if scientific accuracy was all that was at stake.

[hermod]

Keith Woods
@KeithWoodsYT
16 may

23/25

Out of the war also came the basis for our conceptions of international law, war crimes, and the just war.

With the myth of the perfectly moral act of war of intervening to stop the Holocaust, liberals can justify any use of force against regimes violating "human rights"

I'd rather say that Zion's storytellers, liberals and conservatives alike, make up and publicize propaganda stories about the alleged violation of "human rights" in the countries that their bosses plan to attack in order to advance the Zionist-Globalist agenda. I don't regard Amnesty International as "an international non-governmental organization focused on human rights." To me, it looks more like an Anglo-American propaganda agency agitating for Zionist-Globalist wars with atrocity propaganda lies.

[Hektor]

Don't know who Keith Woods is and frankly I don't care, he has verbal diarrhea and just proves that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

A bit of Irish loquacity doesn't go amiss, given what we're used to from the other side. Clearly the fellow has a knowledge of history and politics from a Catholic perspective. That is as important as banging on about cremation times and cyanide residues as if scientific accuracy was all that was at stake.

A right answer is only effective, when it is transmitted in the right way.

That was, I think, a problem with early Revisionism. The books written were only suitable for your truly intellectual class within society. And those are perhaps 1 to 3 percent of the population in any Western Country... They are often already in positions and I think many do not really want to know, that the Holocaust is a gigantic swindle. Simply because this would put them at odds with the rest of elites, with the rest of their social environment. So rather ignore is. "Accept the Holocaust" and you can always point to sykewar footage, 'the News' and 'all serious historians' say so... So it's a low risk to comply with the swindle.

Your middle-field educated class probably doesn't really realize they are dealing with a charade. They simply swallowed what they saw in movies, read in books and learned in schools and universities. With the omnipresence of the Myth this happens rather easily. What the dimwits didn't realize that this Myth is essentially weaponized memory and historiography AGAINST THEM. They think it's about 'memory of the victims' and a 'warning from history' so that this happens 'never again'. Isn't that the standard tag lines of the Holocaust industry. Now there is of course a list what this was used against.
* Axis in world war two were the first target. Disparaging the enemy with atrocity propaganda. In the beginning this was merely a means to a) scare one's own population and boost the morale of the troops indoctrinating that they are 'fighting against evil".
* National Socialism/Hitler/Fascism In Allied and neutral countries any sympathy with NS / the Axis had to be squished. Portraying "the Nazis" as 'cannibalistic savages' was the way to go there. Since one needed some believability it was clad into some Hi-Tech industrial extermination narrative.
* The Germans... their reputation in the world needed to be damaged as well... And there is the ulterior motive that they were industrial competitors and also competitors in various cultural fields especially the arts and sciences. This draws admiration and sympathy, but envy and hate as well among those that feel threatened by this and actually feel inferior. Portraying the Germans as 'horrible monsters' was more than welcome in wider circles. The "Nazi atrocity" narrative was of course part and parcel of the 're-education' program of Germans. Without that narrative it was rather difficult to sell the Germans and others that the needed to be 'reeducated'... In fact given who drove the effort, it would look preposterous on its face. So the atrocity wheels had to be turned all the time. turning it into a perpetual gas lighting exercise that reached all relevant parts of society over time. It was useful to discredit traditional German elites and by that virtually all of them, except for previous niche intellectuals with an anti-German, Marxist or hyperliberal attitude. The academic elites, the churches, the officer-corps, the industrialists, the medical profession any meaningful elite had to be discredited... That wasn't possible on its own. Since those elites were actually full of rather decent people. They were honest, reliable, even if reserved rather friendly folks. Well, they were strict and valued honesty, reliability and decency themselves and would also disdain such behavior, when confronted with this. But they were people that could make a country run and a livable place even to an acceptable level for those that were non-compliant with the German ideals. The 'reeducation of Germany' and 'denazification' policies and practices are definitely something that deserves a closer look and investigation on how this was driven and who played roles in all of this.
* The Occident. Now the 'cultural transformation' didn't stop with the Germans.... With "NAZI" as a household name and 'Racism' to be condemned and with the fact that Germany was a top civilized occidental country all the Western values could be systematically discredited, portrayed as repressive and genocidal. And that's were the New Left got their edge from in the 1960s. The 'civil rights movement' in the US would be unthinkable in the form it took without the 'Nazi Myth' on the backburner.
* It doesn't stop in what's closer to present or the general culture. The whole occidental tradition had to be discredited and deconstructed. The idea of civilization, of civic culture of social norms, of folk, fatherland, faith and family were made suspect in the eyes of younger generations. Progressives had of course a field day with this. Now they could push through what previously was rather difficult and would have met resistance. And they could postulate fairness, freedom and of course 'rights' for themselves. A new 'ideal' was designed... the one of the do-gooder, the universal humanitarian, the social justice warrior, if you want.
* The indirect attack was primarily against Christianity and it doesn't really matter which denomination or theological school. It was about Christianity in general. After all weren't the Germans Christians? Wasn't Jesus telling Jews they had the devil as father? Didn't Christians teach that Jews/Judaists were under a course. Weren't Christians' involved in pogroms against Jews? Weren't Jews (unfairly?) accused of ritual murders of Christian children (blood libel)? Didn't traditional theology teach 'Replacement Theology' postulating that the 'chosen people' weren't the Jews any longer, but ultimately those with a 'faith in Christ... Etc.

The later has been lost on most Christians... But when a Jew thinks of Christians, he doesn't think of Jesus or the Reformers, except of Martin Luther perhaps... He thinks of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis... And there is a linguistic link between the terms for Christ (Nasir, Nazarenes) as well as Christians who are named after him and were also called Nazarenes. It should not surprise that the term Nazi was coined and was pushed by Jews and their friends in the media at the time. Same applies to "Racism", "Rassismus"... Rassismus was first being used in Jewish magazines in German.. The first person to use "Rassismus" in a book title was Magnus Hirschfeld... A person that was a flamboyant homosexual 'doing research' in the field of 'sexology'... He was the pioneer for the gender ideology that is so prominent nowadays... He had a Jewish background. And he must have been well connected as well, being able to publish his books outside of Germany.

The Catholics have bought into the Holocaust clap trap, perhaps more than the mainline protestants in the beginning. Although the Protestants are now the ones pushing this more than the Catholics... The RCC is rather careful with statements being made. Protestants have redesigned their theology even more to be 'accommodating' to Jews (and Judaism)... There is even a "Holocaust Theology", which is absent in Catholicism in that form. The most extreme form is of course 'Christian' Zionism in the US... Which is over the top pro-'Israel' and 'Jews'... It's full of logical fallacies and equivocating of course.... There is however Christians that started looking through this charade and can see what is played. Some realize the Holocaust is a scam. Others only see that Zionism has a rather sinister back ground and that it shifts the attention from the gospel to present day politics. And well, that this Judeolizing is actually a form of idolatry. Especially the Israel Fetishism... And I met Christians that were drunk on Zionism... it was rather shocking to see as if they were under a spell.

Now what to do. I think there is a growing number of people in society in general that realizes that society is moving into a direction that is rather nasty, ghastly and dystopic right now. And I think this also goes through the religious, political, social spectra in society. Some of those people may be receptive to realize that the Holocaust was a prank used against them... and that most of the cultural and social manipulation is somehow related to this... Catering for them should be worthwhile and perhaps it can drive up sales for Revisionist literature in general. I get that this is a more difficult market, since we are not dealing with 'cook books' here or typical hobbies, novels, etc. And people aren't as eager to read any longer. They want 'fast information'... Which was actually a benefit to the Holocaust industry since their whole PR campaign is designed to cater to mass consumption. Although they also cater for 'educated elites' of course. They know that the support from both sides is important. And of course they know the importance of cultural capital, social capital, access to finances as well as influence on policies. So one is dealing with a highly professional group, even if the Run of the Mill Holocaustian is a bit dimwitted... They will only change their mind once the hegemony of the Holocaust Religion is broken... That will get broken once intellectual elites start to reject the notion. But as we all know, the Holocaust is on 'life support' and the industry has the best doctors money can buy.

[curioussoul]

Don't know who Keith Woods is and frankly I don't care, he has verbal diarrhea and just proves that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I think you might have misread the Twitter thread, or the title of this thread is misleading. What Woods is basically trying to explain is the importance of the Holocaust story in the modern geopolitical order, in the sense that the myth of "the Holocaust" permeates every facet of Western political philosophy post-WW2. By extension, the Western political system is literally constructed on the idea of "never again" and the forever-protection of Jews.

Most of his claims are well-established and sourced.

[Hektor]

Don't know who Keith Woods is and frankly I don't care, he has verbal diarrhea and just proves that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I think you might have misread the Twitter thread, or the title of this thread is misleading. What Woods is basically trying to explain is the importance of the Holocaust story in the modern geopolitical order, in the sense that the myth of "the Holocaust" permeates every facet of Western political philosophy post-WW2. By extension, the Western political system is literally constructed on the idea of "never again" and the forever-protection of Jews.

Most of his claims are well-established and sourced.

"the Western postmodern political system is literally constructed on the idea of "never again" and the forever-protection of Jews."

This is a post WW2 development and we can talk about how this was phased in since then.

The Western political system was based on law-and-order, rationality, common good, common sense, etc. previously. There was always a sense of fairness and general applicability as well. The basis was Christian philosophy and the Ius Gentes, which derived from the mos majoram the traditions of the forefathers. That has however declined and was systematically deconstructed. And yes, the Hitler Myth and Holocaust played major roles in this. It's also a turn around in what is valued. Previously it was the 'upstanding member of the community that is honest, productive, family man that abides to norms of decency as applicable at the time'. Now the value is around, the more despicable a person is, the more it pushes the victimhood and pity buttons, the more it is valued. Most of course have a lobby to do so.

[borjastick]

Just now in Britain's Daily Mirror there is a story about George Floyd and the third anniversary of his death. The story talks about nothing having changed and white supremacy still being a big issue in the US and Europe which I would strongly disagree with.

Then in the comments a complete plank of a lunatic makes this comment which is astonishing, truly gobsmacking. Of course he admits to being a jew and brings the holocaust into it without saying the word holocaust.

Nothing at all has changed. I marched in London on consecutive weekends after George Floyd. My daughter was one of the organisers of protests in Cambridge but British society as is American and the EU is still riddled with white supremacy. A year after George Floyd 70 million people motivated by white supremacy voted for Donald Trump, Brexit despites its catastrophic failure still has its many white advocates, the far right is the main opposition in France and Germany. Jews have never felt more targeted in the west. I feel the same fear now that my ancestors did when they fled Tsarist Russia to the UK. It will take many years until whiteness is abolished. We need tougher laws against racism and anti-Semitism a whole new school curriculum based on anti-racism and tv and media to reflect societies increasing diversity. When the people of the UK are all one mix with no supreme group then maybe then we will see peace and justice.

These people really exist. Just see how many people he accused of being racists who are on the verge of committing mass murder against his type and those of the George Floyd persuasion...