Electric fences and supposed suicides
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Electric fences and supposed suicides
Is there any real evidence that electrical fences and suicides by these fences were ever real at any of the camps? I seen a few pictures that claim this.
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Re: Electric fences and supposed suicides
I too have seen some rather theatrical posed pictures of bodies hanging dead on the electric fences and find them altogether unconvincing. For a start the fences were never more than what you see around farmers fields relying on an electric shock rather than a high voltage which would kill. The pictures were in my mind posed as propaganda offerings.
Yet the flip side is that we are meant to believe that hundreds of thousands of people meekly walked without so much as a sigh to the gas chambers.
Unconvincing as I have said.
Yet the flip side is that we are meant to believe that hundreds of thousands of people meekly walked without so much as a sigh to the gas chambers.
Unconvincing as I have said.
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Re: Electric fences and supposed suicides
I don’t think the fences are still there, so it’s most likely an eyewitness fabrication. Well, obviously the fences did exist, but given that they were removed to make Birkenau more accessible to tourists, we’ll never get to see for ourselves if they could’ve been electrified as claimed, but the guards had guns in case anyone ever decided to run to them.
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In several images it can be seen that the rows of barbed wire comprising the fence(s) are attached with runs of barbed wire crossing the rows. Electrically they act as a single conductor, which means a ground wire return is the only type of electric fence which could have been used. This requires a return conductor buried in the ground close to the fence which is bonded to a ground rod every (x) feet. Let's arbitrarily say for the sake of discussion, that a ground rod would be required every 10 feet.
Does a configuration like this begin to invite doubt that a lethal electric fence existed at Birkenau? Consider that the total length of fencing would be on the order of miles. Also bear in mind that barbed wire is not the best conductor. You also need to be concerned with keeping the fence clear of snow and debris to prevent grounding.
Has there ever been any engineering specs/prints detailing this electric fence brought forth? I'm fairly certain this can be taken as a rhetorical question.
The eyewitness 'testimony' of suicide Jews invariably THROWING themselves at the fence? Where is the need to throw yourself?
Absent of any proof, or at minimum convincing documentation, for me this nothing more than a soap story.
Does a configuration like this begin to invite doubt that a lethal electric fence existed at Birkenau? Consider that the total length of fencing would be on the order of miles. Also bear in mind that barbed wire is not the best conductor. You also need to be concerned with keeping the fence clear of snow and debris to prevent grounding.
Has there ever been any engineering specs/prints detailing this electric fence brought forth? I'm fairly certain this can be taken as a rhetorical question.
The eyewitness 'testimony' of suicide Jews invariably THROWING themselves at the fence? Where is the need to throw yourself?
Absent of any proof, or at minimum convincing documentation, for me this nothing more than a soap story.
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If you have a lethal electric fence why do you need barbs?
What's the point?
What's the point?
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Re: Electric fences and supposed suicides
On the subject of electric fences etc I was looking at google responses to the searches 'Nazi atrocity pictures' and 'Pictures of Nazi atrocities'. Funny that in many of the library pages of pics for the above they show no proof of the holocaust and do show pictures of allied bombing raid casualties. They do show a pic or two, likely staged, of a prisoner dead in the wire of some camp somewhere.
If you have the time doing a search like I did is well worth it because despite the claim that the holocaust is the most do.
If you have the time doing a search like I did is well worth it because despite the claim that the holocaust is the most do.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
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I noticed in some pictures that are most likely post liberation there seems to be many inmates that are very close or even touching these fences, I wouldn’t want to even go near these fences if they had any voltage whatsoever. Sure, maybe the voltage was turned off or something when they were liberated but it does seem a bit weird.
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One thing I also noticed was the pool in aushwitz 1 was situated right next to the fence. I don’t have much knowledge on this but i’d assume that could be pretty problematic. Was it ever claimed that aushwitz 1 had an electrical fence?
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