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more on Iran's 'holocaust' cartoon contest & conference

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 7 years ago (Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:22 pm)

Here's more on the growing problems for the ridiculous 'holocau$t' lies, which are not going away.

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Iran said last month it would sponsor a conference to examine the scientific evidence supporting the Holocaust, an apparent attempt to give voice to Holocaust deniers.

Hamshahri invited foreign cartoonists to enter the competition.

"Does the West extend freedom of expression to the crimes committed by the United States and Israel, or an event such as the Holocaust? Or is its freedom only for insulting religious sanctities?" Hamshahri wrote, referring to the Prophet Muhammad cartoons.

Notice there is no mention of those imprisoned for 'giving voice' to their views of the so called 'holocau$t' which are not in agreement with judeo-supremacism.
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Iranian Paper Plans Holocaust Cartoons
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/ap_ ... cartoons_2

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press WriterTue Feb 7, 9:32 AM ET

A prominent Iranian newspaper said Tuesday it would hold a competition for cartoons on the Holocaust to test whether the West extends the principle of freedom of expression to the [alleged] Nazi genocide as it did to the caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

Hamshahri, one of Iran's largest papers, made clear the contest is a reaction to European newspapers' publication of Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, which have led to demonstrations, boycotts and attacks on European embassies across the Islamic world. Several people have been killed.

Hundreds of Iranians hurled stones, and sometimes gasoline bombs, at the Danish and Austrian embassies in Tehran in protest against the cartoons Monday. Austria currently holds the European Union presidency.

The newspaper said the contest would be launched Monday and co-sponsored by the House of Caricatures, a Tehran exhibition center for cartoons. The paper and the cartoon center are owned by the Tehran Municipality, which is dominated by allies of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, well-known for his opposition to Israel.

Ahmadinejad, who was Tehran's mayor until being elected president in June, provoked outcries last year when he said on separate occasions that Israel should be "wiped off the map" and the Holocaust was a "myth."

Iran said last month it would sponsor a conference to examine the scientific evidence supporting the Holocaust, an apparent attempt to give voice to Holocaust deniers.

Hamshahri invited foreign cartoonists to enter the competition.

"Does the West extend freedom of expression to the crimes committed by the United States and Israel, or an event such as the Holocaust? Or is its freedom only for insulting religious sanctities?" Hamshahri wrote, referring to the Prophet Muhammad cartoons.

The cartoons were first published by a Danish newspaper in September. As Muslim protests mounted, numerous European newspapers have reprinted them in recent days in the name of free expression, provoking wider and angrier protests.

The drawings — including one depicting the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb — have touched a raw nerve in part because Islam is interpreted to forbid any illustrations of the Prophet Muhammad for fear they could lead to idolatry.
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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 7 years ago (Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:48 pm)

The cartoons were first published by a Danish newspaper in September.


The "Danish" newspaper is owned by the New York Times and the Zionist who commisioned the cartoons is called Flemming Rose, the 'cultural editor' of Jyllands-Posten, Denmark's most widely read morning paper.

Yes It's the usual common denominator again, but let us ignore it as usual and talk about the weather instead.

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Postby FREE ZUNDEL NOW » 1 decade 7 years ago (Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:49 am)

I hope Ernst Zundel is able to participate in this cartoon contest. He has done a bunch of 'em, here is a favorite, these facial expressions say it all!



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ZundelSite Cartoons
"Either we have free speech.....
OR WE DON'T"


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Postby Hyman » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:59 am)

Ernst will have to smuggle his cartoon out of the gulag, just as Solzhenitsyn did with his manuscripts. So far, this whole cartoon controversy had been a positive development for revisionism and for free speech in general (leaving aside the lunatic violence of the Islamic fanatics). The question is being asked – is the west’s hands clean regarding freedom of speech and doesn’t the western establishment have some taboos of its own? Answer: See Holocaust thought criminals. Pat Buchanan writes in his latest column,
“German Interior Minister Wolfgang Shauble haughtily dissented, "Here, in Europe, governments have nothing to say about which publisher publishes what." What hypocrisy. When it comes to what Germans are most sensitive about, Hitler and the Holocaust, they are ruthless censors. British historian David Irving has spent three months in a Viennese prison awaiting trial on Feb. 20 for speeches he made 15 years ago in Austria. Skeptics and deniers of the Holocaust are prosecuted, fined and imprisoned in Europe with the enthusiastic endorsement of the European press. ”

The Islamic fundamentalist president of Iran has certainly developed a knack for tweaking the nose of the Zionist powers-that-be. If the U.S. or Israel decide to bomb Iran, one of the “smart” bombs will no doubt have his name on it. Even though Israel and the U.S. have 100’s and 1000’s of A-bombs between them, and Iran is still years away from having even one, the neo-cons are chomping at the bit to attack Iran.

MUNICH, Germany, Feb 4 (Reuters) - Richard Perle, a key architect of the U.S.-led war against Iraq, said on Saturday the West should not make the mistake of waiting too long to use military force if Iran comes close to getting an atomic weapon. "If you want to try to wait until the very last minute, you'd better be very confident of your intelligence because if you're not, you won't know when the last minute is," Perle told Reuters on the sidelines of an annual security conference in Munich.
"And so, ironically, one of the lessons of the inadequate intelligence of Iraq is you'd better be careful how long you choose to wait."


IOW, evidence is hard to come by so let’s go ahead bomb whoever we want to, just in case. Once the initial air assault against Iran’s supposed nuclear facilities is over, the question will be “Now what?” And the neocons will have the answer -- invade Iran, regime change and another of Israel’s enemies will be smited. Again, when it comes to the big H. the Islamic fundamentalists in Iran come across sounding more reasonable than apoplectic Zionist toadies in the west.

“Last week, the Iranian foreign ministry also invited British Prime Minister Tony Blair to Teheran to take part in a planned conference on the Holocaust, even though the idea has been branded by Mr Blair as "shocking, ridiculous, stupid". Mr Blair also said Mr Ahmadinejad "should come and see the evidence of the Holocaust himself in the countries of Europe", to which Iran responded by saying it was willing to send a team of "independent investigators". http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18066746-1702,00.html?from=rss

No doubt the Holocaust lobby would like to rescind such an invitation on the grounds that Ahmadinejad might visit the camps with the same spirit of enquiry that David Cole did. The lobby is probably not all so concerned about the Iranian president labeling the Holocaust a myth, because that sound bite can be used as propaganda against him. i.e., sure there are no grounds in international law for attacking Iran, but can we have a guy in power who “denies” the Holocaust? I believe the proposed Holocaust conference is a greater concern for the lobby because there is the chance it will engender discussion about the air-tightness of the official history.

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Postby Rashid Metwan » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:59 pm)

I agree that the violence has gotten out of hand in places but most of the Moslem world is reacting in much the same way that the Christian world did to the Last Temptation of Christ or Priest or anything else critical of Christianity. If Christians have the right to get angry don't Moslems also?

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Postby Moderator3 » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:34 pm)

Rashid Metwan:
Welcome to The Revisionist Forum.
Please be sure to read our guidelines.
Note that we discuss topics related to the so called 'holocaust', we do realize there will be some drift. In general, we insist that there be a connection to that story, and the connection be stated.

We look forward to your views.
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Postby Rashid Metwan » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:39 pm)

Thank you sir!

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:24 pm)

Hey Rashid, what are you doing here, don't you know revisionist's are all:

Anti-semite, Rascist, Deniers, insurgent, terrorist, fundamentalists?

If you don't mind me asking where is Gaza, Filastin, not in Iran by any chance?

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:33 pm)

If you don't mind me asking where is Gaza, Filastin, not in Iran by any chance?

Gaza, Palestine I do believe.

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Postby friedrich braun » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:47 pm)

The "Danish" newspaper is owned by the New York Times.

Source?

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:33 pm)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=84976


I got it from Toben's site, but cannot find it now, but here is another similar article:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... read=84976

and that is how I read it.

"Rose told the international paper owned by The New York Times that "he would not publish a cartoon of Israel's Ariel Sharon strangling a Palestinian baby, since that could be construed as 'racist.'"

Unless they are talking about another paper.

I would like to bet this Rose is Jewish and Bollyn has made a connection with the evil looking Pipes who seems to be the silent Zionist partner behind the scenes. Bollyn has asked Pipes if Rose is Jewish and about his connections, where Pipes would not comment.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... read=85046

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 7 years ago (Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:28 pm)

Hyman,

Your previous post was excellent. The way you tied together your analysis with pertinent quotes, bullseye.

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Postby friedrich braun » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:18 am)

Turpitz,

The paper in question is The International Herald Tribune.

Turpitz wrote:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=84976


I got it from Toben's site, but cannot find it now, but here is another similar article:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... read=84976

and that is how I read it.

"Rose told the international paper owned by The New York Times that "he would not publish a cartoon of Israel's Ariel Sharon strangling a Palestinian baby, since that could be construed as 'racist.'"

Unless they are talking about another paper.

I would like to bet this Rose is Jewish and Bollyn has made a connection with the evil looking Pipes who seems to be the silent Zionist partner behind the scenes. Bollyn has asked Pipes if Rose is Jewish and about his connections, where Pipes would not comment.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... read=85046

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:50 am)

Sorry my mistake then. I thought "international" was refering to Denmark, as the American's call everything "international" that is not actually on the American mainland, like the Moon, Pluto and Mars, because the world stops at Miami....Doesn't it?

All the same it will be controlled by Zionist's even if they haven't actually paid for it, As 99% of the media outlets in the West are. And let us not get ahead of ourselves, because no evidence has been produced that it isn't owned by the usual mob. Although strong evidence is surfacing that Pipes (rabid Zionist) has a very strong influence in matters concerning this rag, and he refuses to answer questions about Rose. And whoever does own it is showing a great deal of concern for Israel and their post-war industry, and as usual who are the beneficiaries?


It would be interesting to know what non Zionist controlled media have dug up about the matter, because if it is owned by the usual, the western media are not going to let it be known if they can help it.

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Postby Rashid Metwan » 1 decade 7 years ago (Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:31 am)

Just to clarify Turpitz's question, I live in Gaza City. We call Palestine 'Filastin'.


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