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Re: Black people / Africans in the "Holocaust" / Rhineland Bastards

Postby Hektor » 2 years 7 months ago (Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:47 pm)

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Hektor wrote:In terms of nationality/citizenship people with Black ancestry would be viewed similarly to Jews. Simply as people that aren't Germans, but may live in the country.

Today or under the Third Reich? Because a lot of the "Blacks" were actually mulattos with partial German ancestry, as Germany did have colonies in Africa. They were not like Jews who were a separate nation altogether, a "people on the move" living a separate existence. There was no policy of mass immigration into Germany at the time like there is under Merkel.

The BRD reassigned citizenships withdrawn before 1945. I think they also tried revoking the ius sanguinis principle, but there wasn't even a debate over it.

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Re: Black people / Africans in the "Holocaust" / Rhineland Bastards

Postby christianbethel » 2 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:26 pm)

Can someone confirm the fact that the sterilizations of the Rhineland Bastards was not carried out by the NSDAP but by the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute? And that the term itself was invented during the Weimar Republic and not NS Germany? I also must ask the question of why only half of the children were sterilized when the NSDAP allegedly viewed them as inferior. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: Black people / Africans in the "Holocaust" / Rhineland Bastards

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:22 pm)

christianbethel wrote:Can someone confirm the fact that the sterilizations of the Rhineland Bastards was not carried out by the NSDAP but by the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute? And that the term itself was invented during the Weimar Republic and not NS Germany? I also must ask the question of why only half of the children were sterilized when the NSDAP allegedly viewed them as inferior. It just doesn't make sense to me.

As stated previously, calls for these children to be sterilized were made immediately after the First World War. There were fewer than 1,000 of these mixed-race children birthed from occupation troops. It was considered a national disgrace: not only did the Germans lose the war, but the 'Allies' allowed their colonial conscripts to rape and impregnate German women.

The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute was founded before Hitler came to power. The director, Eugen Fischer, did not join the NSDAP until 1940, which was after the sterilization of these children. As far back as 1913, Fischer wrote a book titled "The Rehoboth Bastards and the Problem of Miscegenation among Humans" (Die Rehobother Bastards und das Bastardierungsproblem beim Menschen). The "Rehoboth Bastards" were a biracial population in South Africa fathered by European men and African women.
This sort of thinking was common in the West at the time. Opposition to miscegenation persists in many cultures around the world to this day.

As for why "only half" were sterilized: First, we don't even know how many were sterilized, half is just an estimate. Second, it was something that had public support and people around the world wouldn't have thought such a thing to be egregious. Third, there were so few of these mulattoes in Germany and they stuck out like a sore thumb, there was no need for any NSDAP policy decision to be made.

Most states in the USA had mandatory sterilization laws around this period. The Germans also euthanized ethnic Germans in their euthanasia program:

Comparing real German euthanasia program to impossible "holocaust" narrative
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Here is an article showing that discussion of sterilizing these children preceded Hitler's rise to power:

Racist Hysteria to Pragmatic Rapprochement? The German Debate about Rhenish 'Occupation Children', 1920-30
https://www.jstor.org/stable/43299374

The reason it "doesn't make sense" is because the exterminationists are desperate to present Hitler's Germany as some cartoonish alternate universe where deranged super-racists went around sterilizing and killing people because they weren't "100% pure Aryans." It's hysterical nonsense propaganda. They're just trying to target Blacks and say "Hitler would have Holocausted you though!" They're grasping at straws.

The reality is that there were very few Blacks in Germany and so there were no policies made for them. I'm sure they were discriminated against to some degree, just as they were in the United States - but it was at the individual/social level, not imposed by the state. Yeah, Blacks weren't allowed to marry ethnic Germans (all non-Aryans were excluded from this). But how many of these sorts of marriages would have even happened if they were legally permitted?

Blacks in Germany just wasn't a concern to the NSDAP. A much higher number of Black Africans fought with the Third Reich to eradicate bolshevism than were ever sterilized by the NSDAP or any German institution. Compare that to the number of Blacks killed every year in the USA from abortion. I am sure you know all about how Blacks were treated in the USA in the 1920s and 30s.
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Black people / Africans in the "Holocaust" / Rhineland Bastards

Postby christianbethel » 1 year 11 months ago (Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:32 pm)

Hektor wrote:Those important facts are virtually never mentioned, when dealing with the issue. Obviously it wouldn't fit the narrative that non-Germans were stripped of privileges/rights for nefarious reasons.


Ain't that the goddamn truth... Thanks for posting the distinction. Do you know where I can find more information about it?
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Re: Black people / Africans in the "Holocaust" / Rhineland Bastards

Postby Hektor » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:01 am)

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Hektor wrote:In terms of nationality/citizenship people with Black ancestry would be viewed similarly to Jews. Simply as people that aren't Germans, but may live in the country.

Today or under the Third Reich? Because a lot of the "Blacks" were actually mulattos with partial German ancestry, as Germany did have colonies in Africa. They were not like Jews who were a separate nation altogether, a "people on the move" living a separate existence. There was no policy of mass immigration into Germany at the time like there is under Merkel.


Well, today the government nor the legal professions don't really care about 'German Law' at all. They do their best to subvert it.
The FRG had ius sanguinis long still as a rule, at least rudimentary. But they essentially have diminished it now. There is also no such thing as 'German Citizenship' right now. Just look at the papers. No documents to proof that you are a "German Citizen". What they get is 'Staatsangehoerigkeit'/nationality. And virtually anybody can get that upon application. In practice that turns the country into lawlessness. Anarcho-Tyranny, if you want.

And it is a global trend as well. "Rights" are used first as a means of lawfare against 'the state'. But it is also used as a means of lawfare against natural persons and private entities. That relates of course to what is done in cultural production. E.g. the training of legal professionals, legal philosophy, ethics, etc.

There is also a war on language, language being part of ethnos, which is the ethics of groups sharing history and ancestry. And people don't dare to protest this. Because, if you do, then you are a 'racist' or even a "NAZITHATWANTSTOGASSSIXMILLIONJEWS". They use the term 'discrimination' as if there is anything wrong with this. Without discrimination there can not be any law. And it shows. The criminals get privileged over the innocent/law abiding all the time, nowadays. It's funny that church groups either don't see this or are even cooperating in this. Meanwhile there are a couple of very interesting verses in this regard:
2 Thess 2 wrote:The Man of Lawlessness

1Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. 4He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.


As said, lots of Churches are kind of 'in on it'. And it's funny how they even engage in Holocaust promotion... Don't even realize what this is part of. Meanwhile the whole affair is actually designed as a weapon against themselves. Just as against any other group. If one has got a lawless, amoral culture no society can function on the long run. There will of course be an appearance of 'morality' still be around. But it is an inversion of anything that makes ethical sense to sane people. I frequently notice in debates as well. Otherwise educated and intelligent people suddenly come up with insane arguments, when it comes to ethics, logic, functioning of society, etc. I found this shocking at first, and it still is in a way. But then noticed that this is something that was actually predictable all along.

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Re: Black people / Africans in the "Holocaust" / Rhineland Bastards

Postby hermod » 3 months 1 week ago (Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:58 am)

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"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
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Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925


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