Satanic Sexual Abuse and Holocaust Denial

[Carto's Cutlass Supreme]

I was just reading Smith's Report #158 and in a letter to the editor, Chip Smith makes an analogy to the 1980's McMartin child molestation scandal. I remember that scandal myself: it was on the tv every night on a show called "Hard Copy", on the news, and on other programs. Compare the similarities to the holocaust myth:

1) You had high-up people believing a horrible thing happened, but it turns out it didn't happen.

2) "Holocaust denial" and "pre school satanic sexual abuse" are both topics so awful to the public that people have a hard time thinking logically. "Denouncing" "condemning" are bigger aspects than logical thinking.

3) Hysteria that is media driven.

4) Both feature bizarre allegations

Chip Smith makes reference to Samuel Crowell's free online book Gas Chamber of Sherlock Holmes, which puts for a mass hysteria, paranoia type explanation for how the holocaust myth came about.

"Wenatchee Sex Ring"; Satanic Ritual Abuse" "McMartin Preschool" are all interesting articles on Wikipedia that really could tie into the holocaust myth and Samuel Crowell's ideas.

Eleven out of the thirteen jurors who remained by the end of the trial voted to acquit Buckey of the charges; the refusal of the remaining two to vote for a not guilty verdict resulted in the deadlock. The media overwhelmingly focused on the two jurors who voted guilty at the expense of those who believed Buckey was not guilty.
SOURCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mcmartin_preschool

[Laurentz Dahl]

CCS, the similarities have struck me also.

I suppose you have already read this article on the forensic investigation of the alleged subterranean lair of the satanopedophiles (headed of course by a levitating Chuck Norris and his tame baby-eating lions!:twisted: )

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume7/j7_2_1.htm

Ironically, this article refers to the nutters headed by Gunderson as "revisionists" while the authors themselves provides a fine example of revisionist search for exactitude.

[Carto's Cutlass Supreme]

Yes, it's like human emotionality seems to have a hard time seeing when "horrifyingly terrible" blends into "ridiculous." The holocaust myth and the McMartin preschool case both have that.

I remember being positive that the people charged in the McMartin preschool case must be guilty, like Raymond Buckey. I believed it was as the media said it was, and years later I heard that a lawyer for the Prosecution had changed over to working as a lawyer for the Defense, and I thought "how can that be?"

[Friedrich Paul Berg]

The comparisons between the various child-sex-abuse-preschool scandals and the "holocaust" are, I think, quite valid and instructive. One should include the treatment of "witchcraft" also. These cases relied almost entirely on "eyewitness" and "victim" testimony. Who would dare to challenge the veracity of the horribly abused "victims?"

A common thread in all of these cases may be that the complete absence of ordinary evidence such as actual physical injuries to the children, or autopsies showing the use of poison or poison gas--are portrayed as indicating NOT the absence of wrong-doing, but rather as proof of just how fiendishly clever, and even "evil," the accused must truly be and how deserving they are of even more punishment than might otherwise be the case. The absence of real evidence shows that alleged holocaust murderers must have used even more premeditation than ordinary murderers would have ever bothered with.

Holocaust mass murderers supposedly employed a vast bureaucracy to round up the victims, lull them into a sense of security with showers and disguises, even with clever codewords, and then employed crematoria to destroy incriminating evidence. Therefore, one must be on extra guard against re-occurrences which, in turn, means intense indoctrination and education, etc so that everyone throughout the whole world is on guard forever. And so, the hoax perpetuates against the forces of "evil" and shields itself against serious criticism.

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com
Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!

[MrNobody]

complete absence of ordinary evidence such as actual physical injuries to the children, or autopsies showing the use of poison or poison gas--are portrayed as indicating NOT the absence of wrong-doing, but rather as proof of just how fiendishly clever, and even "evil," the accused must truly be......

Holocaust mass murderers supposedly employed a vast bureaucracy to round up the victims, lull them into a sense of security with showers and disguises, even with clever codewords, and then employed crematoria to destroy incriminating evidence.

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com
Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!

Itz the Germano-Vulcan Mind Meld STU-PID!

"But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures. They were taken step by step, one step at a time. Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus -- mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy"

: Raul Hilberg

[Kiwichap]

Raul Hilberg is surely a wierdo huh? He believes in mind-reading on a national scale. But then, that is what the holohoax is! Mind reading on a so-called ethnic scale, (as taught in your local synagogue).

As Andy says. 'The holohoax is made up of the myriad of infintessable nothingness's, all added together', and if you don't understand that, then you understand nothing. Um..er',.. But wow, if you understand nothing, then you've finally got it! Yeah, thats the holohoax. Nothing, infintessably.

[KostasL]

Raul Hilberg is surely a wierdo huh? He believes in mind-reading on a national scale. But then, that is what the holohoax is! Mind reading on a so-called ethnic scale, (as taught in your local synagogue).

Raul Hilberg is not a weirdo! Weirdo are the people who read this paragraph quoted above and still insist in the Holocaust not being a fraud!

In fact Raul Hilberg is top revisionist! Only this paragraph should put him in the Pantheon of Revisionists!

[Hektor]

Memories Of Wars Never Fought
New York Times/June 28, 1998
By Joe Sharkey
A blockbuster of a story launched a highly touted television program. But its central allegation was largely based on a disputed interviewing technique involving recovered memories that the American Psychiatric Association has condemned.

Recovered memories -- suppressed horrors dredged up under therapy -- drew attention a few years ago when they became the basis of a spate of charges of incest, satanic-ritual abuse and sexual abuse at child-care centers. They were discredited when investigators determined that many of them had been implanted by zealous therapists determined to find a cause for a patient's emotional distress.

More recently, experts have discovered that some Vietnam-era veterans under psychiatric care in Veterans Administration Hospitals are especially suggestible. Recovered memories have made a comeback, and veterans, they say, find themselves "remembering" events that never happened.

Some critics assert that may be the case in a disputed report alleging that American soldiers used nerve gas in the Vietnam War...

The report by the veteran CNN war correspondent Peter Arnett and a producer, April Oliver, who did most of the reporting, was broadcast June 7 and appeared the next day in Time magazine. As a result of the report, the Pentagon began an investigation....

Neither the program nor the article mentioned that the central accusation was based on recovered memories.

General Smith said last week that several other veterans who had been interviewed for the report told him Ms. Oliver "planted" the notion that sarin had been used in the commando raid. CNN has denied that....

But experts in the field of false memories say it is not difficult to manipulate a susceptible subject, given the right conditions.

"Recovering a false memory as a war atrocity is not as unusual as you might think," said Pamela Freyd, the executive director of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, a national organization of doctors and researchers that has worked to identify false memories.
Source: http://www.rickross.com/reference/false ... /fsm4.html

Let's apply this discovering of false memories a bit to Holocaust Testimony. Note that traumatized people seem to be more susceptible then others.

[Hannover]

Let's apply this discovering of false memories a bit to Holocaust Testimony. Note that traumatized people seem to be more susceptible then others.

There's much more on bogus "memories", see:

'Key to False Memories Uncovered'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4629

'False memories as 'facts' / some examples'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=14

'False memories and the "misinformation effect"'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1995

'Study: It's Easy to Plant False Memories'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=183

- Hannover

[MrNobody]

You absolutely must watch the BBC Horizon special : Total Isolation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/isolation/

It's stupefying that after just 3 days of isolation the Volunteers were manipulated with implanted suggestions, "witness leading" & were even embellishing the retelling of simple stories.