Difficulties of revisionism

[wtfhappenedtohess]

Communication is a very unique process. The first thing about communicating history is that you must be sure you've got it all right.

[wtfhappenedtohess]

communication also involves engagement too.

[MrNobody]

[LOGIC + EMOTION + ENGAGING]
The bombings range from an estimate of 25,000-500,000. No one really knows.

The harrowing factor is the dark intent behind the attacks. Intent that was forged in a cold allied war-room with a sole intent to wreak havoc and open up the gates of hell in a German city. It was an attack of pure unrelenting brutality and evil.

An honorable commander would use weaponry and bombs that would impair and destroy infrastructure. Weaponry that would significantly impair the Germany war machine. Specifically, aiming to destroy transport lines, factories and warehouses.

Only an agent of death would choose incendiary weapons. Weapons that burnt victims alive leaving their souls as a small pile of ash. Irrational weapons that did little or no damage to war efforts. These weapons were near pointless in disrupting train lines and transport routes. The train line was up and running 3 days later. Majority of the cities infrastructure remained intact.

I forgot to mention that there were multiple raid times. After the first blanket of fiery death carpeted the city, 3 hours later, the grim reaper returned pouring scalding flames onto all the ambulance and fire brigade workers. Premeditated murder on the grandest of scales.

This is the sort of rubbish that will get you labeled as a Rabid Antisemitic Neo-Nazi, it certainly won't gain you any new friends.

You don't even realise that ALL COMMUNICATION right now, in the News is intertwined with emotions. Every single topic on the daily news is designed to evoke emotion

What do you take me for, a complete idiot?

If you do a forum search on my previous posts you'll find more than enough of my rants on the Liberal Media & it's modus operandi to fill a duffel bag.

When you've studied Sigmund Freud & his Nephew Edward Bernays' 1928 book "Propaganda", then you can come back & talk to me about the Media & it's Operations & Techniques.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/propaganda_bernays.pdf


You want to aim this fight at the "In one ear & out the other Oatmeal for Brains" masses, I'll take converting 1 Academic, Scientist, Scholar or Journalist over 100 "average Joe'" every time, they're the people that count, they're the people in key positions able to influence society.

You get 1000 Academics in any one country to come over & doubt the official story & you'll have your "Critical Mass".

You're problem is that you're just frustrated that you can't see any progress.

The fact is everyday we are here, the Holocaust promoters have to trot out another shyster to tell his fantastic tale, everyday they push for new "anti-Denial" Laws, the lobbying never stops, do you think they'd bother if the entire world believed their scam, course not.

How does using Emotional Manipulation & other Propaganda Techniques make us any better than the filth that promotes History's greater Lie?

[wtfhappenedtohess]

The holocaust is definately unique as an event, but in regards to communication it all falls within in the same laws of any other historical event. Anything that has occured must be communicated effectively to be understood.

[wtfhappenedtohess]

And all events are prone to communication errors.

[themind]

is this dramatic enough
I didn't make the video but the person who did account is suspended so I've decided to upload

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwxgxp6zZ8c

might say not available for a while

[Hemicuda]

I believe that revisionists have made the enormous progress that they've made so far based on logic, not emotion. And that's why the Jewish historians and cultural commentators are so nervous. They used emotion from the very beginning, and that's why the entire foundation of their myth is eroding away slowly but surely.

Our entire Western Civilization, in terms of history, science, and culture, is based on logic overcoming superstition or ancient bias. Though they lived among us, the Jewish tradition is to this day still based on superstition, paranoia, emotion, antagonism, and irrationality cloaking itself as the highest form of intelligence.

According to their Talmudic arrogance, they still believe that they can beat even God in a debate, so it should come as no surprise that they believe that they can beat us on this issue. Unlike Jews, Christians are compelled to tell the truth because every lie takes them away from what they conceive of as God. When we tell the truth, no matter how much it may harm us in the immediate sense, we feel closer to God. Whereas when a Jew tells a lie, no matter how egregious, to promote Jewish interests, they feel closer to their God.

No great civilization can be based on lies, which is why Jews themselves have never created a great civilization of their own. Instead, they've had to live amongst us and feed off of us while we, through our distinct ethos go about building a monument to our belief that there is an objective truth.

Revisionists have one thing in common--we believe that the objective truth will set us free. And yes, we all feel that we have been enslaved by the Holocaust Myth, and we simply refuse to live under those irrational shackles. This enslavement does illicit an emotional response from us, but it is much better for us, in the long run, to stick to the facts. The Jews want us to lose our heads and get emotional about it so that we are reduced to playing their game, on their terms. That is not where you will find the strength of our cultural heritage and perseverance.

[wtfhappenedtohess]

interesting

[Judith]

Now is the time to act. Emotion is running high all over the world, and the bankers are America's Most Wanted. It won't take much more than a tie-in linking the banker takeover of America to to Zionism, Israeli sponsored terror and warmongering, the monstrously high dollars going to Israel, political correctness, anti-Christian laws, the Federal Reserve scam, etc.

All of these heinous realities involve the Jews - a fact easily proven. One need only tie it all together and then the reason for the holocaust industry becomes amazingly clear.

Now is the time. Americans are very angry and they are looking for deeper answers. They have never been in a more primed position to be enlightened and persuaded than now. Additionally the good and holy Bishop has cut a swath and blazed a trail, having given the question the global attention it deserves.

We await the informed and talented movie maker - and by all means - let people watch it on the net for free!

Take your expertise to market.

[jheitwler]

All of these heinous realities involve the Jews - a fact easily proven. One need only tie it all together and then the reason for the holocaust industry becomes amazingly clear.

This puts the cart before the horse. If holocaust revisionism doesn't get any traction because it's perceived as anti-Semitism, there's no way that presenting the 'Jewish/Zionist conspiracy' in an engaging and entertaining way is going to not be perceived as anti-Semitism.

Holocaust revisionism needs to disengage from the Jews. I'm not saying this is easy to do nor is it even possible to completely disengage. I know the Jews are intimately connected to the holocaust. But the fight against Jewish/Zionist domination and the fight for acceptance of the truth about the holocaust are completely seperate struggles.

Trying to get the world to understand how Jewish/Zionist interests benefit greatly from the holocaust is very esoteric and not easily achieved. When you start down this path, people can see where you're going and tune out before you are able to make a cohesive argument.

On the other hand, convincing people that it would be difficult to kill the entire city of San Francisco with a 4,000 square foot house and an old diesel engine, bury them in the Rose Bowl, dig them up and burn their bodies on a giant BBQ made of old railroad ties, rebury the ashes in the empty graves, cover the area with a layer of soil and plant lupins over a fourteen month period without leaving some evidence of a crime of this magnitude behind is relatively easy.

When you introduce the idea that the only reason anybody believes this lie is because the Jews won't let anybody question it, you immediately lose your audience.

[Halo]

Hi folks, heres my input:

Watch at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM

It delivers some great influx if you wanted to make a video.

In case you made a video advocating a new independent scientifc approach to find out, you will need to hint out, what holocaustianism is used for, and what not,

You need to make people aware, that

a) Holocaustianism is a religion, rather than a historical event

b) this religion has its temples (aka museums)

c) its religious sites (ausschwitz, buchenwald....) and its priests (so called eyewitnesses and zionistic lobbies- that are infact a kind of "church")

d) it has a lot about religious mythology

e) As any other religion, this one is abused aswell to commit the cruelst atrocities. as the crusades were justified by religion, whitch hunts....
Religion got always abused to justify unethic agendas, and this one in particular

f) Display, how leaders all around the world justified their wars with this religion, in particular the US, that could create their legitimation to act as imperialistic power by this mindset:
"if we had intervened earlier, holocaust hadnt happened"
==> display to the viewer, that zionist circles actually funded the NSDAP, display, how Eisenhower and his psy warfare pals went to the camps, and planted those shrunken heads and human skin devices to justify their participation in the war
Show excerpts of actual political leaders to justify their war mongering by this religion (remmeber that excerpt of denierboy´s video? mc cain vs ron paul? Make people aware, how this dum dum portrayal of evil justifies today´s injustices (also gaza and the suppressionof the palestinians that gets justified by this religion aswell)

g) Display, that letting these people keep the monopoly over teaching this religion, restricting, denying and violently supressing new examinations is extremely dangerous.

h) Display, how the official version already shrinked the holocaust, no more burning pitts with crying babies, no more electrocution, no more mummified thumbs in ilse koch´s home, no more soap...

i) Diplay, how this religion makes us abandon our christian beliefs of tolerance and empathy, under the false assumption,to fight evil when infact we turn our self into evildoers. Also judaism gets transformed in a way, that justifies suppresion, massacres and ponds of palestinian blood

==>This is the most crucial point of the video: Display the antichristian, antiislamic and antisemitic character of that religion. Jews are hated today for the barbaric atrocities and policies commited today.


Here is a very intereting point during a holocaust debate:

.

But we have to deal with the problem by going to the root of the problem. The root of the problem is that the world is actually confronted with the Holocaust based on lies. We will have to get rid of the Holocaust lies of the Zionist regime, there is no question about this. All the media is silent about all the crimes committed by the Zionist regime by using the Holocaust concept.
Chief Rabbi of the Orthodox Jewish Community in Austria, Moishe Arye Friedman

Dumb Nazi?

I show you a dumb Nazi:

Nobody disputes that Alfred Rosenberg, of Russia, was the person behind the Nazi philosophy, and a big influence on Hitler and Mengele. Even the Encyclopedia Britannica's brief summaries mention this:
www.britannica.com/eb/topic-509892/Alfred-Rosenberg

Their sort of zionism and judaism do not fit together. Not at all. And the large fundings of the Nazi party by zionist groups is a coincidence aswell?
The transfer agreement between the Nazis and the zionists? Put the picture together Eldar.

Stop beeing exploited by these atheistic gangsters.

"Israel must invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the methods of provocation..." Moshe Sharett, Israeli's Foreign Minister
('48-'54), & Prime Minister ('54-'56).

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .
I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .
The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.
The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”

— Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897

“Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don’t care. And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal. Then you can spruce up your Jewish conscience and enter the respectable club of civilised nations, nations that are large and healthy."
Ariel Sharon

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Youve been tricked, as the other Diasporah jews and moderate zionists aswell.
At least think about what I said here, I really hope you will try to think about what I try to say here, this entire thread was not about denying the jewish suffering, not at all- combine these quotes, combine them and you see who staged it all, to make the jews come to palestine.

A religion got created, a religion that justifies attack wars, bloodbaths, massacres and ethnic cleansing- is that so hard to see?

Holocaustianism is antichristian, antiislamc and not at least antisemitic

Wikipedia is not sure if he was jewish (doesnt negate it neither).

This site says the folowing:

Quote:
Born the son of a poor shoemaker, Alfred Rosenberg's key to his rise to fame among the Nazi leadership was the possession of a manuscript he smuggled from Moscow, The Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion . [1] Some claim that he presented the manuscript to Hitler, who saw in it a blueprint to total power. Rosenberg told a strange story about how the manuscript came to his hands. It is probably that he quickly discovered that it was a forged document. Nevertheless, he also knew that he had in his hands a valuable document, full of racial and political dynamite, which, if used to his advantage, may become the key to his personal success.
Despite his Jewish origins, Rosenberg gained access to the Thule Society by showing the Protocols [of zion]to Rudolf Hess and to Dietrich Eckart, who became wildly excited on reading it. Very soon the Protocols viewed its first German edition. German intellectuals were impressed. Edition followed edition. The book was given away at no cost and widely distributed. French, Polish, and British editions appeared. Then it was published also in America, in Italy, and in Hungary.
http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swasti07.htm


In 1935 a French newspaper published an interview with the Nazi theoretician, Alfred Rosenberg, in which he said he supports Zionism and is enchanted by it, because of its similarity to Nazism…"
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?A ... ID=SP22501

If he was a zionist agent or tool, it made perfectly sense.

Already in 1900 Rabbi Stephen Wise claimed that “'There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”

How, how can you make Diasporah jews(expelled by god from the holy land) come to Israel? How can you form a nation?

Hegel and macchiavelli: You create an external threat to unite your people.

There are various examples of self orchestrated allegedly antisemitistic acts, I remember a case, where Israeli soldiers burnt down synagogues to blame the arabs.

Spice that up with faked photos of the holocaust, the russian sources proofing, that there was no extermination program in ausschwitz, the added chimney, the added gaschamber, show how the claims of the extermination camps in the german reich collapsed, and how they needed to put all termonation camps behind the iron curtain in order to keep the myth alive, display, that the skinned people are all in the western camps, that there was the allied bombings that caused that humanitarian catastrophy, show the consequences of typhus, show the red cros report not hinting at extermination, show the incredibility of eyewitnesses.

Show them what happens if the priests and popes of that religion are put to cross examination:

Vrba and how they made him ridicolous by court, Hilberg when he admitted he never wa there but in 1961, ...



Enuff material to make a 30minute video I think. Some good music and the emphasis on why the jews aswell as the gentiles are trapped in a religious nightmare.

And another good video is to be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6LH10-3H8k

You need to make people aware, that this applies fits for the jews aswell as for the gentiles! The jews who need to suffer from the worst nightmare from group psychology and the gentiles that are forced to suppress to speak out the obvious and blatant lies they are confronted with.

Spice that up with some good music (watch copyright here, gets some free msuic for that), funny holocaust whoppers and photo frauds, and people will understand why a revision of history is not antisemitic, does not harm the goal of tolerance (the exact opposite is achieved by this dum dum portrayal of evil in reality) and how NO war could have been justified after WW2 without this stupid mindset of pure evil vs pure good.

My 2 cents.

[Halo]

Hi folks, heres my input:

Watch at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqAF-Alc7CM

It delivers some great influx if you wanted to make a video.

In case you made a video advocating a new independent scientifc approach to find out, you will need to hint out, what holocaustianism is used for, and what not,

You need to make people aware, that

a) Holocaustianism is a religion, rather than a historical event

b) this religion has its temples (aka museums)

c) its religious sites (ausschwitz, buchenwald....) and its priests (so called eyewitnesses and zionistic lobbies- that are infact a kind of "church")

d) it has a lot about religious mythology

e) As any other religion, this one is abused aswell to commit the cruelst atrocities. as the crusades were justified by religion, whitch hunts....
Religion got always abused to justify unethic agendas, and this one in particular

f) Display, how leaders all around the world justified their wars with this religion, in particular the US, that could create their legitimation to act as imperialistic power by this mindset:
"if we had intervened earlier, holocaust hadnt happened"
==> display to the viewer, that zionist circles actually funded the NSDAP, display, how Eisenhower and his psy warfare pals went to the camps, and planted those shrunken heads and human skin devices to justify their participation in the war
Show excerpts of actual political leaders to justify their war mongering by this religion (remmeber that excerpt of denierboy´s video? mc cain vs ron paul? Make people aware, how this dum dum portrayal of evil justifies today´s injustices (also gaza and the suppressionof the palestinians that gets justified by this religion aswell)

g) Display, that letting these people keep the monopoly over teaching this religion, restricting, denying and violently supressing new examinations is extremely dangerous.

h) Display, how the official version already shrinked the holocaust, no more burning pitts with crying babies, no more electrocution, no more mummified thumbs in ilse koch´s home, no more soap...

i) Diplay, how this religion makes us abandon our christian beliefs of tolerance and empathy, under the false assumption,to fight evil when infact we turn our self into evildoers. Also judaism gets transformed in a way, that justifies suppresion, massacres and ponds of palestinian blood

==>This is the most crucial point of the video: Display the antichristian, antiislamic and antisemitic character of that religion. Jews are hated today for the barbaric atrocities and policies commited today.


Here is a very intereting point during a holocaust debate:

.

But we have to deal with the problem by going to the root of the problem. The root of the problem is that the world is actually confronted with the Holocaust based on lies. We will have to get rid of the Holocaust lies of the Zionist regime, there is no question about this. All the media is silent about all the crimes committed by the Zionist regime by using the Holocaust concept.
Chief Rabbi of the Orthodox Jewish Community in Austria, Moishe Arye Friedman

Dumb Nazi?

I show you a dumb Nazi:

Nobody disputes that Alfred Rosenberg, of Russia, was the person behind the Nazi philosophy, and a big influence on Hitler and Mengele. Even the Encyclopedia Britannica's brief summaries mention this:
www.britannica.com/eb/topic-509892/Alfred-Rosenberg

Their sort of zionism and judaism do not fit together. Not at all. And the large fundings of the Nazi party by zionist groups is a coincidence aswell?
The transfer agreement between the Nazis and the zionists? Put the picture together Eldar.

Stop beeing exploited by these atheistic gangsters.

"Israel must invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the methods of provocation..." Moshe Sharett, Israeli's Foreign Minister
('48-'54), & Prime Minister ('54-'56).

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .
I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .
The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.
The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”

— Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897

“Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don’t care. And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal. Then you can spruce up your Jewish conscience and enter the respectable club of civilised nations, nations that are large and healthy."
Ariel Sharon

-------------------------------------------

Youve been tricked, as the other Diasporah jews and moderate zionists aswell.
At least think about what I said here, I really hope you will try to think about what I try to say here, this entire thread was not about denying the jewish suffering, not at all- combine these quotes, combine them and you see who staged it all, to make the jews come to palestine.

A religion got created, a religion that justifies attack wars, bloodbaths, massacres and ethnic cleansing- is that so hard to see?

Holocaustianism is antichristian, antiislamc and not at least antisemitic

Wikipedia is not sure if he was jewish (doesnt negate it neither).

This site says the folowing:

Quote:
Born the son of a poor shoemaker, Alfred Rosenberg's key to his rise to fame among the Nazi leadership was the possession of a manuscript he smuggled from Moscow, The Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion . [1] Some claim that he presented the manuscript to Hitler, who saw in it a blueprint to total power. Rosenberg told a strange story about how the manuscript came to his hands. It is probably that he quickly discovered that it was a forged document. Nevertheless, he also knew that he had in his hands a valuable document, full of racial and political dynamite, which, if used to his advantage, may become the key to his personal success.
Despite his Jewish origins, Rosenberg gained access to the Thule Society by showing the Protocols [of zion]to Rudolf Hess and to Dietrich Eckart, who became wildly excited on reading it. Very soon the Protocols viewed its first German edition. German intellectuals were impressed. Edition followed edition. The book was given away at no cost and widely distributed. French, Polish, and British editions appeared. Then it was published also in America, in Italy, and in Hungary.
http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swasti07.htm


In 1935 a French newspaper published an interview with the Nazi theoretician, Alfred Rosenberg, in which he said he supports Zionism and is enchanted by it, because of its similarity to Nazism…"
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?A ... ID=SP22501

If he was a zionist agent or tool, it made perfectly sense.

Already in 1900 Rabbi Stephen Wise claimed that “'There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”

How, how can you make Diasporah jews(expelled by god from the holy land) come to Israel? How can you form a nation?

Hegel and macchiavelli: You create an external threat to unite your people.

There are various examples of self orchestrated allegedly antisemitistic acts, I remember a case, where Israeli soldiers burnt down synagogues to blame the arabs.

Spice that up with faked photos of the holocaust, the russian sources proofing, that there was no extermination program in ausschwitz, the added chimney, the added gaschamber, show how the claims of the extermination camps in the german reich collapsed, and how they needed to put all termonation camps behind the iron curtain in order to keep the myth alive, display, that the skinned people are all in the western camps, that there was the allied bombings that caused that humanitarian catastrophy, show the consequences of typhus, show the red cros report not hinting at extermination, show the incredibility of eyewitnesses.

Show them what happens if the priests and popes of that religion are put to cross examination:

Vrba and how they made him ridicolous by court, Hilberg when he admitted he never wa there but in 1961, ...



Enuff material to make a 30minute video I think. Some good music and the emphasis on why the jews aswell as the gentiles are trapped in a religious nightmare.

And another good video is to be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6LH10-3H8k

You need to make people aware, that this applies fits for the jews aswell as for the gentiles! The jews who need to suffer from the worst nightmare from group psychology and the gentiles that are forced to suppress to speak out the obvious and blatant lies they are confronted with.

Spice that up with some good music (watch copyright here, gets some free msuic for that), funny holocaust whoppers and photo frauds, and people will understand why a revision of history is not antisemitic, does not harm the goal of tolerance (the exact opposite is achieved by this dum dum portrayal of evil in reality) and how NO war could have been justified after WW2 without this stupid mindset of pure evil vs pure good.

My 2 cents.

[Halo]

What I forgot: Quotes!!! You need to bring quotes! I have TONS of quotes indicating, how the zionists regard jews as cannonfodder. It needs to become clear!

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Originally Posted by Dark Elder View Post
Jews get most of the attention because many of the people who deny the Holocaust do so out of a hatred of Jews.
Everyone pointing out massive falsities, frauds and impossibilies must be a hater? This ain´t the catholic inquisition you know, holocaust is a historical event and must be able to be treated and debated as such, without accusing the "other side" of hate motivated racism. Sheesh.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Elder View Post
The extermination of the Jews was the ultimate aim, other groups were side-benefits or icing on the cake if you will.
Proof or it didnt happen (unintentional double meaning)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Elder View Post
And the Holocaust is unique because of the creation of death factories where people were killed by a so-called civilised nation on an industrial scale. That is what sets it apart from any other genocide in history.
So the tens of millions that died by usal bullets, rapes, sodomisation, mutilations... suffered less?
I find it pretty satanic to elaborate the suffering of the one people over the other.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Elder View Post
And gojira...
You still haven't answered. Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. You answer these 3 questions, and I'll watch whatever idiotic little pieces of information you manage to pick up on ing Youtube. How does that sound?
1. What happened to the roughly 6 millions Jews who lived in areas which would come under Nazi occupation and then suddenly seems have disappeared? Alien abductions?
2. What is your stance on the fingerprint left by HCN in the concrete of the gas chambers? Did the zionist magicians place them there in cooperation with their alien reptilian masters?
3. Why didn't any of the Nazis deny it? They stuck with their stories and their confessions all the way to the gallows. The ones who had time to write their memoirs before being executed put it in there ffs. How did the Jews achieve this amazing feat? Zionist mind control rays?
1) Nazi ufos to be precisely. Oooooooor, a good share of them simply moved out of the country? According to the deal the zionists had made with the nazis maybe?
YouTube Video
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Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative." Ibid., p.149.


"One Cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland"
....Izaak Greenbaum
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antis ... /index.cfm

Check this thread, its full of material that could be used to make the reasons for revisionism clear:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=230290

Very interesting debate indeed.

[Halo]

Wiesel tells a story about a visit to a Rebbe, or Hasidic rabbi, he hadn't seen for 20 years. The Rebbe is upset to learn that Wiesel has become a writer, and wants to know what kind of material he writes. "Stories," Wiesel replies, "... true stories."

"About people you knew?" Yes, about people I might have known. "About things that happened?" Yes, about things that happened or could have happened. "But they did not?" No, not all of them did. In fact, some were invented from almost the beginning to almost the end. The Rebbe leaned forward as if to measure me up and said with more sorrow than anger: "That means you are writing lies!" I did not answer immediately. The scolded child within me had nothing to say in his defense. Yet, I had to justify myself:

"Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are, although they never occurred"

This version of history will not survive another 10 years of internet. That´s for sure.

[Halo]

To atone her "guilt" for the Holocaust, Goldhagen demanded by the Catholic Church: the dissolution of the Vatican, a new version of the Bible under the authority of an ecumenical World Assembly, the "democratization" of the church, abandon the dogma of inerrability, pluralism and religious monuments of Jewish victims in churches, political support for Israel, a campaign among the faithful against anti-Semitism, which "at the center of their mission" is, etc.

The Catholic Church would be so under sovereignty of St. Holocaust Office and would lead to sub-division of the civil religion - like the Protestant Church, to a mixture of third-world store, Action Sühnezeichen and "bells ringing against rightists" has degenerated.

Their trademark is an aggressive moralism extortion in the course of decades to the dominant tone of the united Federal Republic has become and to the priests of the civil religion tie.


Goldhagen seems to be quite succesful.

Holocaustianism is the enemy of all religions, thats the message of the video you should create.

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5367


Our purpose is the dismantlingy of that satanic religion, not the negating of suffering in those detention and labor- but not extermination, camps. Get that message out, and many out there will understand.