Witness class breakdown?

[Tommo]

Ok so the main method by which I attempt to spread the truth by is Social Media.

In fact I believe that more people can be converted through this medium by any other and having a small staff of Revisionist Scouts to do so, just as the Holocaust Scouts do everywhere there, is of paramount importance to the truth movement. They can link the way to all the online works as well and codoh itself.

In my current debate which began way on the back foot, the tide is nearly turning as I succeeded in completely refuting the gas chambers to an audience of over 100 people at once who were astounded.

I am under the pump by a couple of Holocaust Scouts who have been flushed out. None of which have managed anything except Jewish games, we all know them. One of them seems to be knowledgable enough to try to belittle me over the "smashed revisionists" which I succeeded in skillfully representing correctly and favourably upon.

You can see this battle as a top pinned post on "anti-feminism Australia" page at this time.

Anyhow I plan to do away with starvation and overwork deaths and the photo's next in succession.

After that I need to address lie-witnesses.

In terms of the lie witnesses I have made already some obvious approximate claims but I want to know, because I haven't found a revisionist table anywhere, our position on the actual number of holocaust "concentration camp" survivor testimonies we're dealing with and their breakdown into classes.

Obviously the general public believes there were tens of thousands of witnesses all claiming to have SEEN the holocaust.

In reality, we know that those who CLAIMED to have personally witnessed extermination is rather small by comparison.

I would like to know if anybody knows if possible and what I might be able to source...

- A rough total of concentration camp survivor stories and liberation personnel
- The number of survivor.liberation that claim to have personally witnessed extermination
- The number of survivors/liberation that are heresay witnesses, that claim to have assumed extermination or heard it from someone else
- The number of survivors/liberation that are extermination neutral, give indirect evidence against the holocaust but not by bad lying and those that refute the holocaust.

This would help to make my prosecution far more concrete if possible.

So far I have never encountered any work done on this topic yet.

Thanks comrades!

[flimflam]

Why not let the holohoax establishment choose the most credible and convincing eyewitnesses, and then analyze the testimony of these eyewitnesses.

But wait, that's already been done. Spielberg has collected I believe 50,000 or so videotaped testimonies, and to make his movie 'The Big Lie' he chose the 5 most credible and convincing. And their crackpot testimony is demolished in the movie 'The Last Days of the Big Lie'.

Another eyewitness, A. Bomba, was featured in the movie Shoah, and his testimony is dissected in '1/3 of the holohoax', this testimony is so absurd it refutes itself. Bomba is also currently featured on the USHMM site.

Note that five eyewitnesses identified I. Demjanuk as 'Ivan the Terrible' of Treblinka and he was sentenced to death in an Israeli court, only to be exonerated when it was revealed that Demjanuk had never set foot in Treblinka.

The point is there is not one credible 'eyewitness'.

Also worth noting - from holohoax101.org

Yehuda Bauer, Director of Research at Yad Vashem writes in the introduction to survivor Filip Mueller's book Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas Chambers "This is a unique document indeed, it is the testimony of the only man who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw." Mueller begins in the morning, "where some 500 prisoners had lined up in rows of 10 so that they might enjoy their Sunday rest according to established Auschwitz tradition." The kapo then barks orders to the prisoners to take off and replace their caps. Those not fast enough are bludgeoned to death. One new prisoner speaks up, "I'm sure the people in charge know nothing whatever about this. I protest." He is bludgeoned to death. "As a result of this mornings sporting activities, thirty-five bludgeoned bodies now lay in the yard of Block 11. However our harassment was by no means at an end. Although by now we were exhausted we stood in line behind wooden tea vats. The tea should have been served early in the morning and was now STONE COLD." All you have to do to realize the holohoax is pure phantasmagoria is to read actual 'testimony' of the only man who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw.

and the book - 'Reading the Holohoax' by respected Austrailian historian Inga Clendinnen, who explicates "I do not think that Meuller was 'lying' (!ed.) , but rather the story slowly flowered in his mind, growing out of smaller actual moment in the undressing room, and his own terrible inability to intervene". And "We have to train our ignorant ears to hear those communiques from the underworld. The voices we will hear find their context within a vast silence: the multitude of the dead. It is almost impossible to fathom the depth of the silence, to remember that behind the shoulder of every individual who survived the camps stand a thousand who did not." Thus Mueller's book, a pack of obvious degenerate lies, is for Clendinnen " a rough hewn, magnificent work" . (http://www.holohoax101.org/102/)

[gandalfssocks]

You can see this battle as a top pinned post on "anti-feminism Australia" page at this time.

Gotta link?

[hermod]

Obviously the general public believes there were tens of thousands of witnesses all claiming to have SEEN the holocaust.

In reality, we know that those who CLAIMED to have personally witnessed extermination is rather small by comparison.

I would like to know if anybody knows if possible and what I might be able to source...

- A rough total of concentration camp survivor stories and liberation personnel
- The number of survivor.liberation that claim to have personally witnessed extermination
- The number of survivors/liberation that are heresay witnesses, that claim to have assumed extermination or heard it from someone else
- The number of survivors/liberation that are extermination neutral, give indirect evidence against the holocaust but not by bad lying and those that refute the holocaust.

In a video of November 2015, French revisionist Vincent Reynouard used the exterminationist website sonderkommando.info (which identifies and lists the eyewitness testimonies of homicidal gassings at Auschwitz-Birkenau) to count the number of witnesses of homicidal gassings at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Sonderkommando.info classifies such testimonies into 4 categories: the manuscripts, the written testimonies (books), the trial testimonies (Lüneburg, Krakow and Frankfurt trials) and art. And the examination of the listed testimonies shows that less than 20 witnesses of homicidal gassings at Auschwitz-Birkenau are to be found on that list.

5:45 - 8:30


And this page on the Reinhardt camps - http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... ports.html - gives only 3 hits for the word "gas."

Hope it helps...

[flimflam]

One more thought on the eyewitnesses - the most famous holohoax survivor and eyewitness is Elie Wiesel, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and the first director of the USHMM, who was a prisoner at Auschwitz when the Nazis were supposedly killing 10000 Jews per day (24,000 in one day in Aug. 1944 as per Primo Levi) in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms. Because of his prominence his testimony has the full weight of the holohoax establishment, and what is his testimony, given in his book about his experience at Aushwitz, 'Night'?

"A barrel of witch burned at stake foul-smelling liquid stood by the door. Disinfection. Everybody soaked in it. Then came the hot shower. All very fast. As we left the showers, we were chased outside." (pg. 36)

"We were led toward one of those 'blocks.' Seated by the entrance we began to wait again. Form time to time somebody was allowed to go in. There were the showers, a compulsory routine." (pg. 41)

"Of course we had to pass through the showers." (pg. 47)

"We would shower and afterward be sent to different blocks." (pg. 104)

"I'll wait here until we can go into the showers .." (pg. 105)

"At Buchenwald, everybody had to go to the showers." (pg. 107).

He does not mention gas chambers in the book, instead he writes that the Nazis killed the Jews by tossing them alive into burning pits, one for children and one for adults.

Ref: holohoax101.org/102/ Or you can use the google search inside the book feature to verify.

[Tommo]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/AntiFem ... 2565641353

Link to the argument^^

[Tommo]

I appreciate responses and am happy to hear of the 20 at auschwitz that fit that criteria.

I am already aware of the fact that there are no credible ones and know of all these to cite. But thank you v.much.

I was hoping that there'd be a table or something LOL

Anyway I can still prosecute the case.. Thanks again

[Tommo]

All of it was a success, radio silence on the issue of witnesses hahaha (y) Cheer's fella's!