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A 1936 italian report about KL Dachau.

Postby Nap » 9 years 6 months ago (Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:29 pm)

I'm sorry for the poor translation, but I'm italian and we are known for our incapacity towards foreign languages.
I wanted to show you this early document about Dachau's KL.
If you find this interesting and there is any unclear point let me know and I will try to translate better.

Milan, April 3, 1936-XIV

To His Excellency the Chief of Police.
ROME.
Subject: Visit to german Dachau's concentration camp.

I am honoured to refer to H. E. about the visit we have done to the german concentration camp of Dachau on April 2.
The camp is 18 km far from Munich in a flat, rural locality enclosed by a high wall.
It holds about 1800 prisoners, 75% political and 25% civil.
In the camp various huts have been built up, conveniently distant from each other, used as accomodation for the prisoners.
They are separated according to their status: political prisoners isolated from civil ones, homosexuals from the others, in the same way Jews who raped Christian maidens.
However, this division can not be thoroughly respected, nor contacts avoided, because prisoners are obliged to work some hours a day and, in the place of work, they are divided depending on their professional abilities: woodworkers, shoemakers, mechanics, construction workers, gardeners.
Intellectuals are, usually, assigned to offices.
The big and equipped wood workshop is very remarkable among the camp's laboratories. Prisoners built almost every door, window and door casings and other accessories belonging to the enormous and modern barracks recently made up. They serve as accomodation for the SS-troops which have to monitor the prisoners. There is another entrance for these barracks besides the one in the camp.
Prisoners are brought here for an indefinite period of time, they are freed after a just lapse of time regolated upon their behaviour and after the Camp Commander (an SS superior official) and Munich's Chief of Police spoke their minds out.
Prisoners receive no wage by the Reich, which only provides to their subsistence, that is fairly good, according to the quality of the soup that has been delivered during our visit (a plentiful bowl of soup with potatoes, bread and chopped meat), to the physical appearance of the prisoners (rather well nourished) and to the little number of people settled in the infirmary (less than 10 with 1800 prisoners in the camp).
As I mentioned, vigilance and discipline are keeped by SS-troop-divisions, armed with rifles and machine-guns. In some turrets with a higher point of view there are machine-guns ready to be used whether it will be needed. These weapons are conveniently disposed in order to control every spot of the camp with cross-fire and repress every revolt they could stir up.
A wire fence along the high wall contributes to avert any desertion, thanks also to electric power supplied to it during the night.
Prisoners display an outstanding discipline. They show, even in this special way of life, the characteristics and the temperament of the race. They almost resemble troop-divisions when they march on, even though they are only moving from the huts to their work place or simply to the kitchens to get their food portion.
It has to be noticed a sort of hierarchy among the prisoners: on a prisoner has been bestowed the task of keeping order in the hut and communicating news to SS-officers and NCOs sent for inspection.
Prisoners can not get out of the camp in any way and they can not be visited by anybody.
Prisoners have got typical red painted stripes on the back of their jackets and on the external sides of their slacks, near the thigh. They are clearly signs made up to discern them in the distance and avoid mixing up with vigilant soldiers.
In the camp there is even an outlet where well-off prisoners can buy food defined, in amount, by well determined limits.
There is even a library which allows books and some permitted newspapers to be read.
There is, eventually, a large pool where prisoners can soak during the summer.
On the occasion of german elections, that took place on March 29, political prisoners of Dachau have been allowed to vote, commune prisoners were forbidden. About 1300 votes: 1269 "yes", 4 spoilt votes and the remnants are "no".
Dachau's supervisors have underlined the detail of the adverse votes, although they were an unimportant amount, declaring them to be searched among the jewish elements: free vote in captivity.

Respectfully yours,
Chief Commissioner of P.[ublic] S.[ecurity]

Tommaso Petrillo




Source:
ACS (State Central Archive), Min. Int., Dir. Gen. di P. S., Segreteria del capo della polizia, fasc. Visita del Capo della Polizia in Germania (1936) as quoted in Renzo De Felice, "Storia degli ebrei italiani sotto il Fascismo", Einaudi, Torino, 1993, pagg. 249 and 553-554.


This document is part of a larger one which deals with the meeting between Arturo Bocchini (Chief of Italian Police) and Himmler in Germany in march-april 1936. It is not directly connected with the Holocaust, but I reckon it interesting.

I don't think the Germans had any interest in supplying propaganda to italian allies in 1936 providing prisoners a larger amount of soup. Very interesting the reference to the library, the pool and the outlet, even if I can't understand if it was an official or unofficial thing.

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Re: A 1936 italian report about KL Dachau.

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 9 years 6 months ago (Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:18 pm)

That's very interesting Nap, thanks for translating it and posting it.

It reminded me of a 1938 Red Cross report on Dachau that Jürgen Graf quotes:

In August 1938, the Swiss divisional commander J.-C. Favez, Delegate of the International Red Cross, visited Dachau concentration camp. In his final report, he wrote:[23]

"There are over 6,000 prisoners in the camp. [...] Conditions of interment: Solidly built, well-illuminated and well-ventilated barracks. [...] Every barracks contained a modern and quite clean water closet, in addition to wash basins. [...] Work in the summer from 7 to 11 A.M., and from 1 to 6 P.M., in the winter from 8 to 11 A.M. and from 1 to 5 P.M. No work on Saturday afternoon and Sunday. [...] Rations: The meals were prepared in roomy, very clean kitchens. It is simple, but different every day of the week, plentiful and of sufficient quality. [...] Every inmate is permitted to receive 15 Marks per week from his relatives, to improve his care. [...] The tone of the officers is correct. The inmates are permitted to write to their families, and are permitted to send, of course alternatively, one letter and one card per week. [...] The discipline is however very strict. The guards and soldiers do not hesitate to use their weapons in the event of attempted escape. [...] Solitary confinement takes place in roomy, well-illuminated cells. [...] The bastinade can also be inflicted as an extraordinary punishment. This punishment is supposed to be used in the most extremely unusual cases only. [...] It is apparently quite painful and is much feared. [...] When a soldier-guard strikes an inmate, he is severely punished, and expelled from the SS. [...] The treatment of the prisoners is of course very strict, but cannot not be characterized as inhumane. The sick in particular are treated with kindness, understanding, and proper professionalism."


National Socialist Concentration Camps: Legend and Reality
By Jürgen Graf
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndGraf.html


Below is an affidavit by a former Dachau inmate which contradicts much of what we are constantly told about the place:

BEIGLBOECK Exhibit No.: 17
____________________

Internation Military Tribunal
SS-Affidavit No. 16.
Nurnberg, 18 June 1946


Affidavit.


WILSCHEWSKE, Herbert, born 15 July 1922 at Klein-Steckrode

Profession: Butcher Father's Profession: Farmer (deceased)

Place of Residence: Rehensalza, German Nationality,

Religion: Protestant

Member of Reich Labour Service (RAD) from 6 February 1941 - 23 August 1941, Military Rank: Private - drafted.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I was born in Poland and had Polish nationality. Before the war, I worked at the Post Office, my father was a Communist and brought me up to think as a Communist. In 1942 I received my draft call for the Army Anti-Aircraft at Sttottin, which, however,, was cancelled. I received a new one for the Waffen-SS at Munich. However, from the very first I had no intention of obeying this draft call, since on account of my Communistic view I was against German politics and the war. The consequence was that I was arrested by the Germans military Police. I was sentenced by the SS- and Police Court in Prague to 8 years penal servitude for not obeying calling up papers and for seditious undermining of the defence spirit. At the same time I was sent to the Concentration Camp at Dachau for preventive custody, I was sent there on 3 February 1943.

I must admit I was well treated there. At first I was in solitary confinement and later on, together with other prisoners in a barracks. Soon afterwards I was made to work. Coal-shoveling in a bakery at Dachau. The food was good.

During the whole time to spring 1945, we received 1/4 loaf of barrack bread in the morning with extras. These consisted of 30 grammes of melted butter, cheese, honey substitute or jam. At midday we received a litre of soup, a stew with vegetables and potatoes. Sometimes we had potatoes in their jackets as well. Twice a week only we had stew without vegetables and baked potatoes. In the evenings we often had a litre of soup or bread with extras. These rations were not changed until shortly before the capitulation, about February 1945, when instead of the former 1/4 loaf of barrack bread, we only got 1/5 and finally 1/8 in the morning and evenings.

I must say that even with this reduced ration, the food was still enough to prevent anybody from starving.

During all this time we also received tobacco and right until the end of 1944 at least 3 to 10 cigarettes daily. This applied particularly to the special units who volunteered for bomb-disposal squads. I would also like to mention the regular parcels sent by the Red Cross which were distributed amongst the foreign prisoners. This distribution took place up to the end.

The accomodation (sic) was good. Everyone had his own bed with palliasse or mattress. The beds were in three layers, one above the other. Our underclothes was exchanged periodically for clean ones. Bed-linen was changed every 4 weeks. bathrooms and electric light were provided and baths had to be taken regularly. Up to spring 194.. (sic) all the rooms accomodated (sic) 20 men. it was not until the Allies were approaching that about 30 -40 men were put into one room.

In order to meet personal requirements such as stationery, drinks and tobacco, a canteen was run in the camp. It was possible to spend up to RM 5.-- weekly in the canteen. Premiums were paid for work done. Up to the summer of 1944 it was possible to buy non-alcoholic drinks in the canteen as well as commodities and toilet requisites. The latter until the end.

During the whole of my stay at Dachau I never saw any prisoners being killed or ill-treated, with the exception of disciplinary measures, such as lashings, which were approved by the Reichsfuehrer-SS for youth-training. I heard rumours of executions by shooting or handing, but they were always connected with the carrying-out of court martial sentences.

Conditions such as I saw in films and read about in the newspapers after the collapse of Germany, regarding illtreatment in the German Concentration Camps never took place in my presence. I did know about medical experiments on prisoners. I had the opportunity repeatedly of talking to prisoners who had volunteered for these experiments. I do not know the type of these experiments. Prisoners who volunteered for these experiments did so of there own free will, as far as I know, as by doing so, they could earn their freedom and rehabilitation, as well as improved conditions for their relatives......

The above is a transcription of most of the English translation of the affidavit, but a facsimile of it can be view here:
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/1aa43d4ec95 ... 255e2d.jpg

The original is found through here:
HLSL Item Number: 253
http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu
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Re: A 1936 italian report about KL Dachau.

Postby Nap » 9 years 6 months ago (Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:09 pm)

That's a pity we can not find the german original in the microfiches (http://www.profit-over-life.org/guide/index_887.html) since they give an incomplete set, but very interesting this affidavit.

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:"There are over 6,000 prisoners in the camp. [...] Conditions of interment: Solidly built, well-illuminated and well-ventilated barracks. [...] Every barracks contained a modern and quite clean water closet, in addition to wash basins. [...] Work in the summer from 7 to 11 A.M., and from 1 to 6 P.M., in the winter from 8 to 11 A.M. and from 1 to 5 P.M. No work on Saturday afternoon and Sunday. [...] Rations: The meals were prepared in roomy, very clean kitchens. It is simple, but different every day of the week, plentiful and of sufficient quality. [...] Every inmate is permitted to receive 15 Marks per week from his relatives, to improve his care. [...] The tone of the officers is correct. The inmates are permitted to write to their families, and are permitted to send, of course alternatively, one letter and one card per week. [...] The discipline is however very strict. The guards and soldiers do not hesitate to use their weapons in the event of attempted escape. [...] Solitary confinement takes place in roomy, well-illuminated cells. [...] The bastinade can also be inflicted as an extraordinary punishment. This punishment is supposed to be used in the most extremely unusual cases only. [...] It is apparently quite painful and is much feared. [...] When a soldier-guard strikes an inmate, he is severely punished, and expelled from the SS. [...] The treatment of the prisoners is of course very strict, but cannot not be characterized as inhumane. The sick in particular are treated with kindness, understanding, and proper professionalism."




I can recall the whole first chapter of "Auschwitz: assistenza sanitaria, "selezione" e "Sonderbehandlung" dei detenuti immatricolati", an untranslated book written by Mattogno (here the first three paragraphs of the first chapter: http://olodogma.com/wordpress/2013/01/0 ... tricolati/).
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When a soldier-guard strikes an inmate, he is severely punished, and expelled from the SS.


SS-guards in Auschwitz had to firm this:
"Only the Führer decides about life and death of an enemy of the State. I can not physically harm or kill no enemy of the State (prisoner). [...] in case of violation of this obligation I will be relentlessly hold accountable." (GARF, 7021-107-11 pag. 30 in Auschwitz: assistenza sanitaria etc. cit., pag. 27)

The bastinade can also be inflicted as an extraordinary punishment.


In this book he shows us which kind of documents there were before the punishment and which kind of punishements they inflicted.
"Three groups: ordinary pinishments (Ordnungsstrafen), arrest (Arreststrafen) and bastinades (Körperliche Züchtigung)" (Auschwitz: assistenza sanitaria etc. cit, pag. 31)
It was even written how many strokes were ordered and how prisoners had to be pounded. "Anzahl der Schläge. Anzahl einsetzen. 5, 10, 15, 20, 25. Vorschriften. Zuvor Untersuchung durch den Arzt! Schläge mit einer einrutigen Lederpeitsche kurz hintereinander verabfolgen, dabei Schläge zählen. [...] Er darf nur auf das Gesäß und die Oberschenkel geschlagen werden." (Number of strokes. Insert the number. 5, 10, 15, 20, 25. (to choose). Instruction: firstly a medical visit! Administer the strokes one after another briefly with a one-tail leathery whip and count the hits. [...] Only butt and thighs can be hit." (ibid., pag. 33)

I just noticed that this document is present even here (http://www.vho.org/D/gdvd_3/I2.html) in Franz Scheild's "History of Germany's proscription, vol. 3" (Geschichte der Verfemung Deutschlands, III, 1970), which in Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time", Macmillan, 2002, pag. 190 becomes "In defense of the german race" (http://books.google.it/books?id=LYIkAkB ... ds&f=false) :lol: .

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Re: A 1936 italian report about KL Dachau.

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 9 years 6 months ago (Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:25 pm)

I learnt about that Auschwitz guards' oath(?) about not hurting or killing anybody very recently, as Mattogno refers to it in his latest book.

Although a few further details about it would have been nice.

[31] Harrison writes further:

“Himmler had advised the tribunal in instructions issued on his behalf by Bender on October 26, 1942 that ‘Execution for purely political motives
shall result in no punishment, unless this is necessary for maintaining discipline and order.’ Himmler thus saw the murder of Jews as political killing justified by the policy of the state, namely the Final Solution.” (p. 106)


The original text of the document says:444

“Relevant to the question of whether and what punishment must be meted out for shootings of Jews without order and authority are the motives.
1.) For pure political motives
[of the shootings] no punishment shall be meted out, unless maintaining the order requires it. […]
2.) For egotistic, sadistic or sexual motives judicial punishment will be meted out, and as the case may be also for murder or for manslaughter.”


It can be deduced from this that single shootings did require a specific “order and authority,” outside of which killings were allowed only based on certain motivations. This was in effect for the Eastern territories in the battle against “Judeo-Bolshevism,” but not for example for the concentration camps, starting with Auschwitz, where a different norm was in force for everybody, including Jews:445

“It is known to me that the Führer alone decides about life or death of an enemy of the State. I am not allowed to physically harm any State enemy (inmate) or to cause his death. Every killing of an inmate in a concentration camp requires the personal approval of the Reichsführer-SS.”

Therefore the above-mentioned disposition of Himmler had nothing to do with the alleged “Final Solution.”


444. H. Bucheim, M. Broszat, H.-A. Jacobsen, H. Krausnick, Anatomie des SS-Staates, op. cit., vol. 1, pp. 279-280.
445. GARF, 7021-107-11, p. 30. Cfr. my study Auschwitz: Assistenza sanitaria, “selezione” e “Sonderbehandlung” dei detenuti immatricolati. Effepi, Genova, 2010, p. 27 and document 3 of the annex.

- Carlo Mattogno
The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt” An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation
of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers, pp.233-234.
http://codoh.com/sites/default/files/do ... r-long.pdf

(I left out the original German text)
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Re: A 1936 italian report about KL Dachau.

Postby Nap » 9 years 6 months ago (Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:23 am)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:Although a few further details about it would have been nice.


The "obligation" (Verpflichtung) they had to sign was of this kind:

It is known to me that the Führer alone decides about life or death of an enemy of the State. I am not allowed to physically harm any State enemy (inmate) or to cause his death. Every killing of an inmate in a concentration camp requires the personal approval of the Reichsführer-SS. I am also aware that in case of violation of this obligation I will be relentlessly hold accountable.
KL Auschwitz, ...november 1943.
Andreas Lang,
SS-Sturmmann.


Mir ist bekannt, daß nur der Führer allein über Leben und Tod eines Stattsfeindes etscheidet. Ich darf keinen Staatsgegner (Häftling) körperlich schädigen oder zu Tode bringen. Jede Tötung eines Häftlings in einem Konzentrationslager bedarf der persönlichen Genehmigung des Reichsführers-SS. Ich bin mit bewußt, daß ich bei Zuwiderhandlung gegen diese Verpfllichtung unnachsichtig zur Recheschaft gezogen werde.
K. L. Auschwitz, den ...11.43.
Andreas Lang,
SS-Sturmmann


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There were also
1) "Guidelines for concentration camps (regulation of the camp)". "Dienstvorschrift für Konzentrationslager (Lagerordnung)". 1941 edition published by RSHA. 16th chapter: "Regulation of punishments". "Strafordnung".
2) "Guidelines for Ravensbrüch feminine concentration camp (regulation of the camp)". "Dienstvorschrift für das Fr. K.L. Ravensbrück (Lagerordnung)".
Every mistreatment against inmates in preventive detention is forbidden (unforewarned furlough)

Jede Mißhandlung von Schutzhäftlingen ist verboten (fristlose Entlassung)

3) "Instruction on sentries' tasks and duties in a concentration camp". "Unterricht über Aufgaben und Pflichten der Wachposten in einem Konzentrationslager".
Q. What you cannot do in any case?

A. It is forbidden to physically punish an inmate.


Frage: Was darf er in keinem Fall tun?

Antwort: Es ist verboten, einem Häftling körperlich zu züchtigen.

4) "Memorandum for the instruction of SS-officials in office in the concentration camp". "Merkblätter für Unterricht an die SS-Führer im K.L.Dienst".
Sentries are forbidden to exert any gratuitous violence on prisoners.

Jede eigenmächtige Züchtigung von Häftlingen ist den Posten verboten.

etc.

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Re: A 1936 italian report about KL Dachau.

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 9 years 6 months ago (Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:29 pm)

Thanks a million for that Nap.
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