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Re: "Jews Are Lice: They Cause Typhus" / Zyklon-B amounts are revealing

Postby Hektor » 2 months 2 days ago (Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:36 am)

Dugong_Terbang wrote:
borjastick wrote:I am not sure ....fleas and lice.



My point here is, According to the Revisionist views, the inmates (Jews) were gassed in the gas chamber but the purpose is to kill the lice, not the inmates along with their belongings. For hygienic measures

And then my interlocutors replied with satire "Ooo, the nazis were murdering the lice by gassing them in the gas chamber, and you know what ?. The lice is the Jews themself according to this nazi propaganda poster" (while showing the poster) "So the USHMM was and remain right that the nazis killed the lice (murdered Jews not lice)"

I hope you understand what am I talking about :bounce:

and as for your
The sad reality is that jews were always afraid of soap and personal hygiene.

can you give me the sources ? ty


I recall this type of response, when you point out that the camps had epidemics problems and that at the time the standard preventive measure was to use zyklon B to disinfest clothing and rooms. Hence there was a legitimate reason for Zyklon B being present at the camps. Notably that detail is commonly omitted by Holocaust preachers.

Daily showers were uncommon in Eastern Europe in the past. And bathing was a luxury. With the Jews it may also be an issue that many of them resented the pesky hygiene rules the rabbis tried to impose on them. But have a look at photos of 'Ostjuden'. Many don't look exactly hygienic.
And in war time, when many are impoverished, hygiene standards will also drop. So forcing hygiene may become a key issue to keep people in good health.

hermod wrote:

April 30, 1944
Same amount of Zyklon B (anti-typhus delousing fumigant) delivered
to a concentration camp where exterminationists claim that there were homicidal gas chambers (KL Auschwitz)
and to a concentration camp where exterminationists concede that there were no homicidal gas chambers (KL Oranienburg) :



Oranienburg was the first Concentration camp. It was run by the SA. First commandant was Werner Schäfer.
https://www.usmbooks.com/konzentrations ... nburg.html
This was also a subject at the IMT. Werner Schäfer was interrogated there and he actually gives detailed testimony. He debunked a lot of the rumors that were already spread in 1933/34. We should give this a closer look, I think.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-13-46.asp
Werner Schäfer also wrote a book on Oranienburg.

Even a Dr. Ludwig Levy, former inmate, responded to a smear article in the Times:
https://books.google.co.za/books?id=GsY ... 22&f=false

Hence the propaganda warfare starts early with the takeover. Dr. Ludwig Levy is some sort of an early 'Holocaust Denier', it seems.

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Re: "Jews Are Lice: They Cause Typhus" / Zyklon-B amounts are revealing

Postby hermod » 2 months 2 days ago (Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:58 am)

Hektor wrote:Oranienburg was the first Concentration camp. It was run by the SA. First commandant was Werner Schäfer.
https://www.usmbooks.com/konzentrations ... nburg.html
This was also a subject at the IMT. Werner Schäfer was interrogated there and he actually gives detailed testimony. He debunked a lot of the rumors that were already spread in 1933/34. We should give this a closer look, I think.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-13-46.asp


Seems superfluous. Who remembers the Oranienburg concentration camp today? And who remembers the atrocities that were claimed to have happened there?
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
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Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

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Re: "Jews Are Lice: They Cause Typhus" / Zyklon-B amounts are revealing

Postby Hektor » 2 months 1 day ago (Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:02 am)

hermod wrote:
Hektor wrote:Oranienburg was the first Concentration camp. It was run by the SA. First commandant was Werner Schäfer.
https://www.usmbooks.com/konzentrations ... nburg.html
This was also a subject at the IMT. Werner Schäfer was interrogated there and he actually gives detailed testimony. He debunked a lot of the rumors that were already spread in 1933/34. We should give this a closer look, I think.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-13-46.asp


Seems superfluous. Who remembers the Oranienburg concentration camp today? And who remembers the atrocities that were claimed to have happened there?


That's correct most folks don't know what it is. Except for those familiar with the subject of course. But the thing is that it got lots of attention in the past and a lot of things are documented. There is quite some news articles to be found about it. Contemporary ones that is. Some is info about after WW2, though.

And well, the camps was extensively discussed during the IMT. Very clear answers were given to the prosecution (and they did not like that at all).
So there is material. Including letters to newspapers by Jews in the US that said they were there, but that the horror-stories were NOT true.


And we have two early books on this. One by a Socialist that was detained there. And one by the Camp commandant (I think in response). What that demonstrates is that there were major accusations being made right from the beginning. And that they were NOT true. It might be an eye-opener.

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Re: "Jews Are Lice: They Cause Typhus" / Zyklon-B amounts are revealing

Postby hermod » 2 months 1 day ago (Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:37 am)

Hektor wrote:
hermod wrote:
Hektor wrote:Oranienburg was the first Concentration camp. It was run by the SA. First commandant was Werner Schäfer.
https://www.usmbooks.com/konzentrations ... nburg.html
This was also a subject at the IMT. Werner Schäfer was interrogated there and he actually gives detailed testimony. He debunked a lot of the rumors that were already spread in 1933/34. We should give this a closer look, I think.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-13-46.asp


Seems superfluous. Who remembers the Oranienburg concentration camp today? And who remembers the atrocities that were claimed to have happened there?


That's correct most folks don't know what it is. Except for those familiar with the subject of course. But the thing is that it got lots of attention in the past and a lot of things are documented. There is quite some news articles to be found about it. Contemporary ones that is. Some is info about after WW2, though.

And well, the camps was extensively discussed during the IMT. Very clear answers were given to the prosecution (and they did not like that at all).
So there is material. Including letters to newspapers by Jews in the US that said they were there, but that the horror-stories were NOT true.

And we have two early books on this. One by a Socialist that was detained there. And one by the Camp commandant (I think in response). What that demonstrates is that there were major accusations being made right from the beginning. And that they were NOT true. It might be an eye-opener.


Yes, it might be useful that way. Very few people are aware that the German one-day anti-Jewish boycott of April 1, 1933 was a retaliation for the anti-German atrocity propaganda lies concocted and disseminated abroad by Zionist Jews and that no reputable orthodox/antirevisionist/exterminationist historian would still dare to claim those atrocities were real.
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

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Re: "Jews Are Lice: They Cause Typhus" / Zyklon-B amounts are revealing

Postby Hektor » 1 month 4 weeks ago (Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:20 am)

hermod wrote:...
Yes, it might be useful that way. Very few people are aware that the German one-day anti-Jewish boycott of April 1, 1933 was a retaliation for the anti-German atrocity propaganda lies concocted and disseminated abroad by Zionist Jews and that no reputable orthodox/antirevisionist/exterminationist historian would still dare to claim those atrocities were real.


They tend to shut up about it, leave it open... Call those with concerns names.

They have an advantage. If there is allegations, news reports, etc. One can not simply prove the negative of this. Rumor kills truth all the time. People just tend to forget about it after a while. And the picture is already framed there way, so they can count on prejudices.

Not only what lead to the boycott reaction in Germany on 1. April is unknown. The whole 14 years preceding this, is far-going ignored. Although there was quite some literature on this during that time. But that requires research on the matter. So rather portray the Jews as innocence incarnated. That they were seen unfavorably by wider circles of citizens is somehow explained away as 'irrational antisemitism'.
On Oranienburg the IMT had witnesses and testimony there. And commandant Schaefer was rather concise in his answers there. Dismissing atrocity allegations and even pointing out that the evidence points to the opposite. It was in total unsuitable to the narrative about to be framed, so it got ignored, went down the memory hole.


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