Sacred Myths of the New World Order

[Rapier]

The success of the Holocaust myth surely convinced the organizers of 911 that the American public would not believe they were brazenly manipulated.

Is the myth of the mechanics and labor of gas chambers and their disappearance etc. etc. any less incredible than when the Pentagon air liner's novice pilot performed a vertical dive then levels off to hit the first floor head on at a location that was in the process of being renovated, killing 125 people in a building with 20,000 people?

[astro3]

Richard Widmann argued, in his essay THE HOLOCAUST: The New Founding Myth of American Society -

In 1996 Roger Garaudy created a tremendous scandal with his book, The Founding Myths of Modern Israel. This book identified several myths that were critical for the founding of Israel including what Garaudy called, "The Myth of the Six Million." Although the word "myth" is often understood in contemporary vernacular to mean something false, that is not the sense of the word that Garaudy intended. The word "myth" is derived from the Greek "mythos," meaning simply "the word based on faith." Myth, therefore is not factual or non-factual, but something which must be accepted on faith. A myth generally tells a sacred story concerning the origins of the world or its creatures. Just as Garaudy suggests that the Holocaust myth was critical in the formation of modern Israel, I argue that it has become the founding myth of contemporary culture and politics in the United States. It is, of course, a new myth, and as such has usurped the earlier founding myths of our nation…

In our post-World War II society, the earlier founding myths have been replaced by the Holocaust myth. Although not yet a national holiday in the U.S., Holocaust Remembrance Day has been gaining increasing attention in recent years. It is probably only a matter of time before it is fully recognized with a national holiday….[ somehow this seems to be on May 2nd, I thought it was Feb 26th?] …

The American public has found that condemnation of racial and religious discrimination is not enough. Today White culture and European heritage are denounced for being ultimately responsible for the thinking and the ideologies that resulted in the Holocaust. In the heart of our nation’s capital, in Washington DC, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum was founded. One of the first exhibits that one is confronted by in the museum is a video, which condemns 2,000 years of anti-Semitism, which it alleges, resulted in the Holocaust…Today, schools may display "holiday trees" and hold "holiday concerts," they may even light Kwanzaa candles but any mention of Christmas is seen as part of the continuum of 2,000 years of Christian anti-Semitism…

If the Holocaust as we know it, was the result of propaganda lies, faulty memories, and fanciful exaggerations, then the revision and correction of the historical record is not a matter for academics and historians alone. In fact, Holocaust revisionism may be the only way to save our nation from the Orwellian-nightmare into which it is sinking, and return us to our original founding principles and values. Holocaust revisionism, far from useless or evil, is a key to saving our nation from the corrupt cultural transformation that is currently underway. www.codoh.com/viewpoints/vprwmyth.html

One thing might be added to this thesis: the sense of guilt which used to be 'Original Sin' from the Bible, has somehow got transferred onto the 'H.' issue, something which everyone needs to feel guilty about.

[astro3]

As leading French-Scottish revisionist, (retired) Prof Robert Faurisson explains: "The new [ Imperialist US and coalition] crusaders want to make a new universal religion of “the Holocaust”. Their emblem is no longer a cross with a naked victim on it but a mysterious slaughterhouse with a crowd of naked victims inside".

[Lupa]

11th March, 2004 - Madrid

Hello astro

for this theme there is a tremendous forum running in Spain.
We are heavily attacked by the actual government and the mainstream mass media in Spain for doing our parallel investigation now for more than 2 1/2 years.
After some episodes where the spanish secret service tried to dinamite the forum we now take some precautions before admitting new members.
Some crucial headlines about the item took birth in our forum.

If you speak spanish and you don´t believe the official story about 11/03/2004 , that is your place:

http://www.libertaddigital.com/bitacora ... hp?id=3537



PD : beg pardon to the moderator for the off topic, but I cannot send PM.

[astro3]

Thanks Lupa that looks great - any chance of an English translation?

A Tale of Two Lies - The Holocaust and 9/11

Some words of wisdom, from John Kaminski (excepts)

"Both are lies, believed by the masses only because of the media blitz that inculcated their fictional credibility in the public mind.

Identification of two principal lies are what the world faces if it is to evolve toward a genuine, self-actualizing future.

The first is the Holocaust, the claimed deliberate mass murder of six million Jews by Adolf Hitler and the Germans.

The second is 9/11, the destruction of the twin towers in New York City by supposedly neophyte pilot Arab terrorists.

Both are lies, believed by the masses only because of the media blitz that inculcated their fictional credibility in the public mind.

The same effect was achieved with Holocaust propaganda, which began in earnest only after the first Kennedy assassination. .. The same media blitz in the late 1960s that first imbued the notion of a Jewish holocaust in Germany 1940-45 — with specific notions of gassings, pools of fire, and human soap — made acceptance of this falsified version of history the publicly accepted norm …

The claim that six million died in World War II is actually an echo of a story that was first seen in the New York Times in the 1920s claiming six million Jews were at risk of death in Europe. This was the fever pitch of Jewish immigration from Russia and Eastern Europe that followed pogroms they staged themselves to gain sympathy, a tactic they have always used back to Roman days.

All those emaciated bodies you see in the World War II film clips were actually caused by starvation and typhus after Allied bombings cut off the German supply lines. The gassing story really derives from its invention and use in the Russian gulags… The Germans didn’t gas anyone; they only tried to get their country out of the international Jewish financial crime scheme that was and is choking the life out of the planet.

Similar enforced epiphanies were blasted into the public mind on 9/11: the government published the names of all 19 hijackers in three hours, and yet, eight years later, it has told us nothing more about the actual crime, and managed to murder several million hijab-clad unfortunates while doing so

The very fabric of American society has been completely changed by arbitrary and despotic new laws as a result of this colossal act of staged terror. The hysterical measures implemented by the government after it covered up a proper investigation of 9/11 all have the tendency to funnel acceptable thoughts toward what the government decrees. And when the government is lying, and not telling you what’s really going on, you are not free. Do not deceive yourself. Sometime soon, ask yourself, where am I being taken?"

………………………………….
I’ll politely omit what Kaminski says about Rabbi Michael Chertoff - Israeli citizen and veteran of the Mossad - being presently the head of US Homeland Security
8.7.08 www.johnkaminski.info/

[diaz52]

Theres a silly notion that commedians and others speak of, that Jews are 'guilt ridden.' That certainly hasn't been my experience in my associations with Jews. If anything, it seems to me that the white population has a particular susceptibility to guilt mongering. Or perhaps I should say whites have a particular gullibility to believe stories which portray their own kind in the worst possible light. There are many possible explanations why this is the case. One reason could be due to their predominantly Christian faith. Christianity instills in its adherents the notion that "we're all sinners." And that we're all fallen. It instills a certain inward speculation at our own motives, and raises doubts and questions in our minds as to whether we're doing enough or whether we've considered "what would Jesus do" in this or that situation. Christianity in many ways "primes the pump" for feelings of guilt and shame. The white population in the west after the war was in many ways suckers waiting to be had by any swindler with a half-way decent con to pull- it took a while for the Jews and others to catch on to this- but the hoaxers did catch on and have been running with this strategy ever since.

Over the last four decades theres been a lot of talk about "hate-mongering" and the dangers thereof. And some of this talk is accurate: certainly there are those who seek to use the power of persuasion and their silver tongues to motivate others to adopt their bigotries. We see that on the news right now everyday- with arabs being portrayed as terrorists or christian tenets being portrayed as bigoted, racist, sexist and homophobic as well as hypocrites by the beautiful people on TV. However there has been and remains no talk about the dangers of guilt-mongering. What effect has all the guilt-mongering against whites done to white youth? I remember when I was a student teacher and later a substitute teacher, I would have to give lessons to students on the suffering of native americans, and I'd give lessons to young white school children on slavery and the civil rights movement. And there were the lessons on the Holocaust... Granted some of this education was instructional and even necessary to teaching effectively about our past. But how much can white youth take before they learn to hate themselves and their own kind? And what effect does this one-sided piling on have on black students, hispanic students or people of other races and ethnicities? If anything, IMO it reinforced their own anti-white bigotries and derision. People need to start studying, thinking about and discussing power of guilt mongering and what this is doing to white youth. I believe its killing the white population- thru abortions, inter-racial relationships, drug use, and other activities which decade by decade are causing whites to diminish: both in numbers and in influence in the world. White youth are squirming to get out from underneath this massive weight of guilt the media so enjoys piling onto them. Most simply escape by joining the winning team- they throw themselves into any political or social trend and movement that is detrimental either directly or indirectly to the well-being of the white race.

Now another possible explanation for this susceptibility to guilt mongering, and one which I think works in tandem with and compliments the previously discussed explanation, is the tremendous success whites have enjoyed for years on this earth. Whites, and the West they dominated, prospered and increased in wealth, health and a standard of living beyond the bounds of even their wildest dreams. And for years the numbers of these hard-working and diligent peoples swelled as well. This was bound to create feelings of guilt in many, especially as television and movies presented the poverty of other races to them in vivid detail on a regular basis. This wealth and well-being created the luxury of guilt. They had the free time needed to wring their hands and bemoan their good fortune. This is a luxury which other races still do not have in good measure to this day. I could go on, and there are probably other explanations that have merit, but it seems clear to me that guilt mongering is something to which whites are particularly vulnerable- for the reasons stated above- and its effects are far more deadly in the long run than any external attack or threat. Indeed the damage done by this phenomenon may be irreperable and could prove to be fatal. If not for the Holohoax, then perhaps some other anti-white hoax would have caught fire in the public's mind and taken off as a truth that must never be questioned. Whites were primed for this, IMHO, again for the reasons stated above.

[astro3]

A fine sermon by Bishop Williamson,
about 9/11. (He did not know it was being filmed) Yes this man knows the score!
Bishop Williamson on Orwell's 1984 and 911 in two parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGBMFShUVo
An 'enslaving lie' - no Boeing struck the Pentagon. The Towers were mined.
in context of the 1984 Orwell story.

Then also he comes out and tells the truth
about the H.! (January 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbIuk14-omE
These are the two supreme sacred myths of our time.
How did he have the courage?

No wonder he's been told to shut up.

[astro3]

Israel Did It

A sensational announcement by Dr Alan Sabrosky,former director of studies at US army war college, an American of Jewish ancestry http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/19/22329/

I have had long conversations over the last two weeks with contacts at the Army War College and the headquarters, Marine Corps, and I’ve made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100% certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation.’ Period. The Zionists are playing this as an all-or-nothing exercise. If they lose this one, they’re done…..”

On March 30 th his interview on the Kevin Barett show:
"When you look at the one thing that could have done it as an organization, Mossad is almost by default the only one left standing. When people in the 9/11 Truth Movement... ask, 'where's the beef'-- the evidence is there. The only piece of evidence lacking is a public confession by one of the architects of the operation, and that is not going to be forthcoming, any more than public confessions by serial capital murderers are common in criminal cases. It's not going to be there."
"Was 9/11 a Mossad operation?" Alan Sabrosky on Kevin Barrett Show, March 30, 2010 http://noliesradio.org/archives/14342

For a good recent coverage of this theme, see: http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367 Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!
For my article on this topic a few years back, see: http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=16190

http://www.bollyn.com/index.php So, Christopher Bollyn’s new online 'book' ‘Solving 9/11, the Deception that Changed the World’ now has Sabrosky endorsing its thesis.

This echoes what the Italy’s ex-president Cossiga said about the 9/11 event, two years ago:

‘All the (intelligence services) of America and Europeknow well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan.

" Cossiga had some involvement in the ‘Gladio’ story so he should know. http://www.rense.com/general85/ddde.htm

Let'c compare this with, a new letter from Ingrid about Ernst Zundel:

To all -
It took almost nine years, and a great many innocent people in prison or perhaps even tortured for speaking the Truth to Power, but good people all over the world are waking up and asking questions as they have never done before. I listened to parts of this video below a couple of weeks ago in audio form only and was very impressed by Dr. Sabroski's knowledge and courage - now someone has put pictures to it to strengthen it even more ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZci_o8nzQs
Likewise, Wayne Madsen, a very courageous independent journalist I have followed for quite a few years. Read this one:
http://www.rense.com/general90/911chen.htm
And finally, Christopher Bollyn who was tasered and had to flee the country:
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/223617
I remember it as if it happened yesterday when Ernst looked at the 9/11 photos and asked: "Where does all this dust come from...?" and then he paused, took a deep breath, and said: "This was a coup. On America." He was one of the first who put the finger on the sore. And in the end, he will be proven right. It's finally dawning on people who spoke the truth - and who lied. A false flag operation. Right in the heart of America. Think about what this will mean.

Ingrid

Its coming out!

[SevenUp]

Any discussion of 9/11 should be banned from this forum. The idea that the towers were rigged with explosives is COMPLETE INSANITY and there is not a shred of evidence for it. Conflating 9/11 and the holohoax is something the Zionists would love to do.

You don't have to know a thing about it to know that if the towers were rigged with explosives, the CIA or Arabs or whoever inhabits your fantasy could have exploded the bombs at noon killing 30,000 instead of 3,000. They could have then threatened to do the same anywhere in the US as the towers were the best guarded site in the US given previous attemps. That would have created a real panic.

[jnovitz]

But perfectly timing to be able to turn up a little late for work and not be able to enter the building, so few absences would seem suspicious.

Bless

[James Diaz]

Isreal's and mossad's involvement in 9/11 was broken in a three part series speacial on fox news, soon quickly supressed on the internet, with Carl Cameron telling of irael spy's of somewhere like over a hundred, operating for years here in america. It invloves the jewish people. So, the moderators say telling this story about israeli hegemony and outed war crime spying is strayong from the topic. I thought we might be all considered historical revisionist period, and not merely holocaust only obssessed revisionist. The Jounal Of Historical Review made it their mission to reexamine all aspects of history, that is what historical revisionism is about. Other wise I might be inclined to think of some as holocuast fetishist who perhaps get a little too much enjoyment out of talking only about one thing. That would be a psychological issue, and in my mind you would no longer be considered a HISTORICAL revisionist, but I know that my post will be deleted by the well respected moderators. I just wanted to say that this is a noble thread with noble posts and noble parrallels to the holocuast and OTHER HISTORICAL events that need to be revised. Moderators you would do well to learn from The Jornal of Historical Review and be honest enough to be actual HISTORICAL REVISIONIST rather than only holocaust obsessives, which as I can see has no hope of happening with people who seem to have tunnel vision and almost eerily erotic and sexual attraction to the holocaust itself. I do hope you delete me from this site for posting this, as I can tell that most of you are not honest enough to be real historical revisionist any way.

[astro3]

Mr Sevenup, can we try to keep an open mind? I suggest you get a copy of 'The New Pearl Harbour' by David Ray Griffin - the classic intro to this subject. What is now happening to America? Is it controlled by Zionist-Israeli elements? Here is a right-wing US Army-veteran commentator, about the dawning realisation of WHO DID 9/11 and the shattering implications of this:

The unraveling of 9/11 from an “Arab plot” to an Israeli/Mossad “false flag” attack on the United States is the biggest threat to Israel. Every day one issue or another involving 9/11 from the “dancing Israeli’s,” Mossad operatives filming the attacks with advance notice to the phony “art students” in the WTC to the horrific admission that Building 7 was “pulled” are some of hundreds, even thousands of facts that stamp “Mossad” on 9/11.
Of late, despite taking a strong stand against Israeli pressure, President Obama has repeatedly asked for powers to control “conspiracy oriented” news stories on the internet and elsewhere. There is only one conspiracy, 9/11, and the victim was the United States. 9/11 was always a conspiracy, one that 7 years of public information and a full debunking and rescinding of the 9/11 Commission Report has put at the door of Israel and a group of American traitors in government, oil, banking, defense and the media. ... the ability to spin anything from assassination to mass murder into a “poor threatened Israel” yarn has endangered the life of every public figure in the world who stands up for their beliefs.

Mr Gordon Duff, http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/15 ... the-world/

Like 'the Holocaust', this is a myth that controls through hate and fear, its a Fairy Tale from Hell, its a vision of horror.

Incidentally Mr Sevenup, concerning your call for all 9/11 debate to be banned here, I can assure you that a far more total ban on 'holocaust' debate is made on so-called 'truth' forums - where they only want to discuss 9/11! We are fortunate that Mr Moderator allows this much. Was Plato right to say that every civilisation needed a Primal myth - but, that it didn't have to be true?

Let me put it this way Mr Sevenup: just as the Nazis were innocent of operating the big human cyanide gas chambers - they never did that thing - so likewise Muslims never flew those planes into the Towers, on that day of doom - they were quite innocent of that charge. Bogus guilt was created, by both of these stories. That was their purpose.

[Halo]

Alan Hart breaks silence on 911
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLzxCO6c6yc


Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College says that the military brass now know that Israel and those traitors within our nation committed the 911 attack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcCiyKFP ... 1&index=14


Now you know why they put holo deniers into the same camp with 911 truthers.