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Fursov's claim about USA pledge to Germany April 17 1941

Postby Werd » 8 years 4 months ago (Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:27 am)

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Werd wrote:From Andrei Fursov on youtube.

"In April of 1941 the United States Congress adopted a resolution stating that if Germany attacks the Soviet Union, the USA would help the Soviet Union. And if the Soviet Union attacks Germany they would help Germany. Therefore Joseph Stalin did everything to show Franklin D. Roosevelt, and not Adolf Hitler, that the Soviet Union doesn't have aggressive plans. Stalin saw correctly that Roosevelt was the only ally."

He doesn't state what this resolution was from April 1941. However, if one examines the Lend-Lease act, they see the Americans were using it to help Britian, France and even the Soviet Union to some extent...I think Andrei Fursov has a year or some other number mixed up, or he plain old lying.


Continuing...

Googletranslate from Slovak
As only antistalinisti scoff at the TASS statement of 14 June 1941. The statement was said that the relations between the USSR and Germany is everything in order and that the USSR wants to continue the peaceful course and so on. "Zdochlinožrúti" consider this a "stupidity and weakness of Stalin", a "concession Hitler". Will not find that addressee of this declaration was not Hitler and the Third Reich, but Roosevelt and the United States. In April 1941 adopted Indeed, the US Congress decided that the hacking of the USSR-Germany, the US will help USSR, in the event of an attack on the USSR Germany - to help Americans Third Reich.

Statement by TASS-in guarantee the complete absence of aggressive intentions of the Soviet Union in relation with Germany and channeled this gesture namely the USA, not to Germany. Stalin very well understood that the inevitable conflict with the Reich, and its only real ally may be US only, which also discourage the UK since the creation of the Anglo-German antisovietského Pact. It would be very dangerous in this great game let Hitler supported the establishment North Atlantic (more precisely - the world, with the participation of Japan and Turkey) antisovietského
block.


Googletranslate from Russian
Similarly, the second main unit fails charges Stalin - how evolved in the first months of the Great Patriotic War, "missed the", "asleep", "Sorge did not believe," "believed Hitler", "escaped from the Kremlin and the three days was in prostration "etc. All these lies long disproven documented, researchers aware of this - and that Stalin did not slept, and that in fact never believed Hitler, and that the right did not believe Sorge, and the real fault generals on the eve of June 22. This is not the place to parse all these questions, but one can not keep notes. Oh, how scoff anti-Stalinists over TASS statement of 14 June 1941 .; The statement said that the relations between the USSR and Germany, everything is fine, that the Soviet Union continues to pursue peaceful course etc. "Scavengers" interpret this as "folly and weakness of Stalin" as "kowtowing to Hitler." They do not come to mind that the destination application were not Hitler and the Third Reich, and Roosevelt and the United States. In April 1941, the US Congress decided that in the event of a German attack on the USSR, the United States will help the Soviet Union, and in the case of a Soviet attack on Germany - Germany.

TASS statement fixed total absence of aggressive intentions of the Soviet Union in relation to Germany and demonstrated this lack is the US, not Germany. Stalin was well aware that in the inevitable showdown with the Reich his only real ally can only be the United States, they also deter Britain from sliding into a German-British anti-Soviet alliance. And, of course, it was impossible to prevent careless movement, which pushed the Russian Hitler provoke the North Atlantic (or rather, the world - with the participation of Japan and Turkey) anti-Soviet bloc. In this case, the Soviet Union (relative military capabilities on the 1937 - 14%) would have had to confront the United States (41.7%), Germany (14.4%), the UK (10.2% excluding imperial possessions), France ( 4.2%), Japan (3.5%), Italy (2.5%) plus smaller dragons. By the way, in view of these facts and figures solutions Congressional obvious falsity of the whole scheme Rezun and those with him about the alleged preparation of Stalin attack on Germany in particular and Europe in general.


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Not the first time I've heard about the decision of the US Congress on 17/04/1941 that if the Soviet Union attack Germany, the United States will be on the side of Germany.
I would like to know how this decision document has been issued, and whether the Internet link to the document.


Googletranslate from Russian
Anti-Stalinists excel in the fact that Stalin was a fool. They think that this appeal was addressed to Hitler TASS. Naive people! TASS statement was addressed to US President Roosevelt. Because in 1937, Roosevelt said, and in April 1941 the US Congress decided that if Germany attacked the USSR on, the United States will help the Soviet Union. And if the Soviet Union would attack Germany or allow itself to be provoked, then the US will help Germany.

Military capabilities were at that time as follows: Germany - 14.4%, the Soviet Union - 14.6%, the British Empire - 10.2%, more than the US - 40% of military capabilities. Imagine that the Soviet Union has given itself provoke: he gets himself against Hitler's Germany (from which zamiryaetsya British Empire) and the United States. It is clear that immediately they are joined Turkey and Japan.

In this regard, it paskudstvo who write Suvorov Rezun and SOLONIN and clear stupidity: that Stalin was preparing attack on Germany. No, Stalin then fought not with Germany, and with the world. Stalin was not a fool. This is the question of how to respond to external circumstances.

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Re: Fursov's claim about USA pledge to Germany April 17 1941

Postby Werd » 8 years 4 months ago (Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:11 pm)

It was the following Congress we should be looking at here.

The Seventy-seventh United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from January 3, 1941 to January 3, 1943, during the ninth and tenth years of Franklin Roosevelt's presidency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/77th_Unite ... s_Congress


I find it odd how under the heading "Major Legislation" nothing from April 1941 is mentioned.
Major legislation
Main article: List of United States federal legislation § 77th United States Congress

March 11, 1941: Lend Lease Act, ch. 11, 55 Stat. 31
December 8, 1941: War between United States and Japan, Sess. 1, ch. 561
December 11, 1941: War between United States and Germany, Sess. 1, ch. 564
December 11, 1941: War between United States and Italy, Sess. 1, ch. 565
1941: Flood Control Act of 1941, Pub.L. 77–228
January 30, 1942: Emergency Price Control Act, ch. 26, 56 Stat. 23
June 5, 1942: War between United States and Bulgaria, Sess. 2, ch. 323
June 5, 1942: War between United States and Hungary, Sess. 2, ch. 324
June 5, 1942: War between United States and Romania, Sess. 2, ch. 325
June 22, 1942: An Act to Recognize the Pledge of Allegiance

As seen earlier, others have been asking Andrei Fursov on his website in posted comments sections where this legislation is to be found and what the language is? Perhaps somebody fluent in Russian could watch the embedded video here and see what, if anything, he produces.

Original Russian.
http://andreyfursov.ru/news/seliger_201 ... -10-10-265
of this google translation.

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Re: Fursov's claim about USA pledge to Germany April 17 1941

Postby Werd » 8 years 4 months ago (Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:51 pm)

I emailed the great mark solonin himself and this is what he sent me.

Dear Sir,

Thak you for your letter.
Of cource, this (the decision of the US Congress on 17/04/1941 that if the Soviet Union attack Germany , the United States will be on the German side) is an insolent and stupid lie. Of cource, Fursov will not answer and did not answer never.

To my deep regret, you (not only you personally, but Western people in general) would not understand - what is Putin`s Russia indeed.

Best regards,
Mark


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