Holocaust Debate on another board

[Braveheart]

http://www.discussanything.com/forums/s ... adid=26094

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[Scott]

Interesting exchange. She said she was an H-Skeptic and he proceeded to blitz her with smoking-guns, without addressing the salient point that Moral Certainty enforced by the State (or whomever) is not compatible with intellectual curiosity.

For him it is not what she doubts but that she doubts.

And according to one poster, he "deconstructed her."


Btw, why can't we have some debates here?

Perhaps because opposition views like Mr. Poty's would not be allowed...


Here is another forum, RODOH, hosted by Hans/Max.

[Hannover]

Scott said:

Btw, why can't we have some debates here?

Perhaps because opposition views like Mr. Poty's would not be allowed...

Take note that there have been plenty of Believers that have come here and posted their views, look around and see. Problem is that they get refuted everytime, become frustrated, and then try to trash the Forum by violating the posted guidelines.
I personally would enjoy having 'Poty' post here, he's afraid because here he can't use his trash tactics. The material he posted and the things he says are absurd and easily debunked. His dumb posts would be shot down in heartbeat...you gotta love his reference to the 'Good Ole Days', one the most laughable Believer books out there.

I would suggest that Scott post there and experience first hand the need for guidelines and civil debate. And while your at it Scott, extend my personal invitation to 'Potty' to sign-up here. We'll hand his head to him.

Then you refer to Hans/Max, who was spanked so many times here that it became an amusement. He too lost his cool after being 'deconstructed', and man how he was 'deconstructed'. Look around see his posts HERE.

- Hannover

[Scott]

Btw, why can't we have some debates here?

Perhaps because opposition views like Mr. Poty's would not be allowed...

Take note that there have been plenty of Believers that have come here and posted their views, look around and see. Problem is that they get refuted everytime, become frustrated, and then try to trash the Forum by violating the posted guidelines.

Hard to verify since their posts usually get deleted.

I personally would enjoy having 'Poty' post here, he's afraid because here he can't use his trash tactics. The material he posted and the things he says are absurd and easily debunked. His dumb posts would be shot down in heartbeat...you gotta love his reference to the 'Good Ole Days', one the most laughable Believer books out there.

Yes, that would be interesting. He's too quick with the canned answers not to have been at it for awhile so I wouldn't be surprised if he's lurked around before.

I would suggest that Scott post there and experience first hand the need for guidelines and civil debate. And while your at it Scott, extend my personal invitation to 'Potty' to sign-up here. We'll hand his head to him.

I can hold my own unmoderated just fine, thanks. But admittedly it is hard to deal with spam from too many posters at once and over the same Is-Too/Is-Not endlessly, and certainly when "Denial" is not allowed, which means that I can't have help from knowledgeable Revisionists.

However, what would be the point discussing anything with Poty? This isn't dialog, it is slanging. Like I said, it is not the different views but that there is a difference of views in the first place that seems to be his problem. So I don't see any rhyme or reason in doing so other than proselyting for something and I'm just a skeptic who has no interest in that.

Then you refer to Hans/Max, who was spanked so many times here that it became an amusement. He too lost his cool after being 'deconstructed', and man how he was 'deconstructed'. Look around see his posts HERE.

Well, that's questionable. In any case, Hannover is invited to Hans' forum to deconstruct him at the source.

[Hannover]

I have already 'deconstructed' Hans/Max....here. I suggest you look. Don't believe so?.. then re-post one of his topics and see.
I will not debate where namecalling, spamming, off topic posts, and dodging is permitted.

Also the fact that there are so many Believer posts here contradicts your innuendo that they get deleted out of hand. Those that have been deleted were due to guideline infractions.

I might add that some Revisionist posts have been deleted as well, and problem Revisionists have been banned for the same reasons as others.

Thanks, Hannover

[Scott]

I have already 'deconstructed' Hans/Max....here. I suggest you look. Don't believe so?.. then re-post one of his topics and see.

I won't try to referee that.

I will not debate where namecalling, spamming, off topic posts, and dodging is permitted.

I don't really blame you but then it might get lonely.

Also the fact that there are so many Believer posts here contradicts your innuendo that they get deleted out of hand. Those that have been deleted were due to guideline infractions.

Not innuendo, just a casual observation. I wasn't aware of any Believer posts, but I guess that begs the question of who is a Believer. In any case, I don't have a personal complaint. The discussions that I have had on this board have been quite productive, AFAIC.

I might add that some Revisionist posts have been deleted as well, and problem Revisionists have been banned for the same reasons as others.

I think the net over what constitutes a "problem poster," Revisionist or otherwise, should be narrowed a little. But it isn't any of my concern and ultimately not my problem. Just a suggestion.

Anyway, you might give Hans a try on his forum just the same.

[Hebden]

Here is another forum, RODOH, hosted by Hans/Max.

Given the current level of activity, it's in danger of becoming a DODOH.

[Sailor]

http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26094

Comments about either side's arguments in this exchange?

It is a rather long thread, 8 pages with many graphics, and it took a while to download the whole thing.
Both points of view are presented, revisionist and anti-revisionist. And what I do is, I go over the thread very carefully, check out my Holocaust books, do search with the Rudolf/CODOH/IHR search engines, and then write my own opinion and make my comments, usually in ‘bold red’ so they stick out. This is quite time consuming and may take several days. The computer is a great tool here.

Right up front Potyondi presents the draft of a letter from Dr. Wetzel to the Reichskomissar for the Ostland about housing and “Vergasungs Apparate” for Jews in Riga and that a chemist Dr. Kallmeyer will be sent to Riga in order to assist to manufacture these devices locally.
Potyondi does not say so directly but I assume that this is proof for him for the existence of homicidal gas chambers.
The German word “Vergasung” during the time between the two wars and WWII was often used to describe the fumigation process using Hydro-Cyanide.
Actually Jews who were brought to these camps had to be deloused, i.e. they had to take a bath, shower or sauna and their clothes were disinfested, using a “Vergasungs Apparat” which uses Zyklon B in principal like this one:


Potyondi may not be quite correct with his assumption.
And his opponent Renee did not really address this point either.