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Re: Here is Where They Went

Postby Hektor » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon May 29, 2023 9:17 am)

bombsaway wrote:
curioussoul wrote:We do not know how the Hungarian Jews ended up in hundreds of different camps all across Europe, .... fact by most historians on the Soviet Union - is proof enough that mass-movements of peoples do not necessarily generate massive amounts of evidence.


Well I am saying it is unique (except when looking at other deportations of Jews during the alleged Holocaust, eg the non-employable, non-registered Hungarian Jews deported to Auschwitz). Do you want to look at the Volga Germans, or the Jews deported by Stalin, to see how much evidence there is of their transfer?



Your claim: more than a million Jews were gassed/killed at the 'Reinhard camps'. Your proof: allegations and that nobody offers an provable alternative were all of them went.
Your problem: You don't have corresponding empirical evidence for your claim.
Your shield against being laughed of and sinking into shame: This is affirmed by establishment sources.

Doesn't mean that this is in any way intellectually honest to argue like this. You have to throw out 2000 years of intellectual development to be able to defend your hypothesis. That there is many doing the same in many ways and that it isn't limited to this subject is another matter. But it doesn't help you at all.

So again: Give full disclosure of empirical evidence for the claims being made or shut up about it. That would be standard practice in any a-political homicide case (allegation or more that is, real or not).

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Re: Here is Where They Went

Postby bombsaway » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon May 29, 2023 10:27 am)

Hektor wrote:So again: Give full disclosure of empirical evidence for the claims being made or shut up about it. That would be standard practice in any a-political homicide case (allegation or more that is, real or not).


This is a thread about the revisionist narrative, and I was responding to the specific argument made by posters that mass movements of people have occurred in recent history without generating much evidence.

I've made more empirical arguments in the 'case for orthodoxy' thread and 'physical evidence challenge' thread.

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Re: Here is Where They Went

Postby Butterfangers » 1 week 3 days ago (Tue May 30, 2023 5:02 pm)

bombsaway wrote:If you want to have a discussion about it, I'll respond. In that thread you said you weren't interested in talking about it, when I said I wanted to move the conversation there.

"I'm not following you back into Transnistria where you have already been thoroughly demolished. I am not interested in quote-posting my earlier statements on the subject which you will undoubtedly have "forgotten" or "conveniently ignore"."

bombsaway, I have now twice shown you my latest response regarding Transnistria, which you have now three times avoiding simply responding to.

1) You didn't respond to it when I initially wrote it.

2) You much later asked for my 'permission' to move back into Transnistria [instead of simply responding to / quoting my last mention of it] which I had indicated no desire to do, since you'd already been demolished and were likely just deflecting from your failing Eichmann arguments.

3) Here again in this thread, I shared it again and instead of responding (which you'd probably look foolish trying to do), you attempt to shift blame for your failures.


To any honest, reasonable person, your tactics are transparent, here. You fail at every attempt at sincere debate so resort to fallacy, dishonesty, and whatever one might call the above. Weird.

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Re: Here is Where They Went

Postby bombsaway » 1 week 2 days ago (Wed May 31, 2023 12:44 pm)

Butterfangers wrote:
[indent]1) You didn't respond to it when I initially wrote it.


Because we were talking about a lot of other things. Just posted a response in the 'orthodox' case thread, should show up on this page viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14859&start=465

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Re: Here is Where They Went

Postby borjastick » 1 week 2 days ago (Wed May 31, 2023 1:49 pm)

Just remember what someone once said -

A lie unchallenged soon becomes the truth
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician

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Re: Here is Where They Went

Postby Hektor » 1 week 2 days ago (Wed May 31, 2023 2:33 pm)

borjastick wrote:Just remember what someone once said -

A lie unchallenged soon becomes the truth


Then it's practical to make and repeat monstrous lies involving millions of allegations, assertions, etc.
They can't be challenged with conviction all at once.

That's why people that lived during WW2, will tell you that they were not aware of any 'extermination program' (Holocaust as alleged and asserted).


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