Elon Musk buys Twitter; will H revisionism be allowed again?

[Lamprecht]

Recently, Elon Musk bought Twitter for billions of $USD. I'm not going to post any articles about it because it's all over the web, use any search engine. Alex Jones, who was banned from Twitter, is [as of] now reinstated. Musk described himself as a "Free speech absolutist" so does that mean that Holocaust revisionism is allowed on the platform again? It's still banned from YouTube and Facebook.

[Archie]

Time will tell if he’s serious about free speech or if this is all just part of the show.

If all that ends up happening is they let Trump back on I will be disappointed.

Imo, Twitter is a very good platform for revisionism.

[borjastick]

I have never really liked Musk. A south African jew and a very odd bloke in my opinion. But buying Twitter is more important than just free speech it also stops dead the left wing lunacy and de-platforming/cancel culture. Thus things like climate change and holocaust lies can be challenged.

There is a lot more left to come out about this Twitter/Musk thing such as will Twitter be sabotaged by the screaming lefties before they all leave to go home to mummy and cry for a year? Also will a jew really allow real discussion of the holocaust because it could get very ugly if we start posting hard truths on Twitter.

[Otium]

I will reserve my judgement. But I'm pessimistic.

The old idiom "if it's too good to be true, it probably is" is a general rule I live by until proven otherwise.

I think most people that claim to be for freedom of speech, or even free speech absolutists like Musk draw the line somewhere, and that line is going to be Holocaust revisionism, if not other "controversial" issues.

Unless it becomes abundantly clear that people aren't being persecuted for their political and historical opinions then I will remain sceptical as to Musk's stated intentions.

[Revision]

A south African jew

He isn't a Jew. Nobody takes us seriously if we are that clumsy with facts.

[borjastick]

I'm not clumsy with facts. I have seen it stated he is jewish. If he isn't show me the facts.

[Revision]

For example:
https://forward.com/culture/500869/elon ... brew-name/
https://forward.com/schmooze/131574/jew ... rich-list/

"I have seen it stated he is jewish."

Where?

[Lamprecht]

I would like to see evidence that Musk is a Jew as well. All I could find mentioning it is this, where it claims his grandfather was a Jew but provides no real proof.
https://silview.media/2022/04/12/elon-m ... kefellers/

[borjastick]

All over google reports say he 'converted to Christianity' and that his grandfather was a jew. Thus one can conclude that he didn't convert from Islam or Hinduism it could realistically only have been from judaism. If his grandfather was a jew then his mother or father was jewish.

He also claims not to be religious which is a common answer from jews.

Thus I am certain he is of a jewish background.

[Hektor]

All over google reports say he 'converted to Christianity' and that his grandfather was a jew. Thus one can conclude that he didn't convert from Islam or Hinduism it could realistically only have been from judaism. If his grandfather was a jew then his mother or father was jewish.

He also claims not to be religious which is a common answer from jews.

Thus I am certain he is of a jewish background.

Yeah, it isn't that people convert from being an agnostic towards being a Christian, right?! And "not religious" is never said by other people... In fact it is perhaps the most common answer in Western countries altogether.

"All over reports" - If it is repeated all the time it has to be true.

Look, if you can't show us that ancestor, then there isn't anything worth talking about.

Well at least Musk made some people very upset by mentioning that media may be controlled by a few:

A south African jew

He isn't a Jew. Nobody takes us seriously if we are that clumsy with facts.

That 'finding a jew under any rock' is really annoying... And so is the sloppy work with facts and sources by those promoting it. Meanwhile you could bring in a lot of information that isn't even in dispute.

[borjastick]

My money remains on him being of jewish background which seems to be proven by looking a little into his past, and that his 'conversion' could only be from judaism to Christianity. We'll soon know and it'll be revealed fairly soon but so far I haven't seen anything that positively excludes his jewish background.

[Hektor]

My money remains on him being of jewish background which seems to be proven by looking a little into his past, and that his 'conversion' could only be from judaism to Christianity. We'll soon know and it'll be revealed fairly soon but so far I haven't seen anything that positively excludes his jewish background.

You can make a bet, but you can't sell it as a fact without having any documentary proof of anyone of his ancestors being Jewish. What circles the family moved in is another question. I presume those were mostly Anglo's and yes, this may have included Jews and this is even likely. As they are/were in that line of business. Jews left SA in the 90s in droves. And I recall one Jew telling me that his business suffered from the crime.

[katana]

If Musk's purchase goes through, then yes, I think discussion of Holocaust revisionism will be allowed to a good degree, where it is legal, to do so.

As to whether Musk has some jewish ancestry or not, well that will come out, and may provide explanatory power as to what level of exposure Revisionism is eventually allowed on Twitter.

Part jew or not, Musk is a radical thinker who comes across as genuinely concerned about humanity, regardless of whether his various technological solutions to our problems are right or not.

[Archie]

Here is a description of Musk’s background from a 2014 article:

Musk was born in June 1971 in Pretoria, South Africa, to Maye and Errol Musk, the oldest of three children. Maye's father, Joshua Haldeman, was born in Minnesota, grew up in Canada and emigrated to South Africa with his young family about 1950. A chiropractor and amateur archeologist, he took his family on extended trips to search for the lost city of the Kalahari in what is now Botswana.

Errol was born in South Africa to a British mother and a South African father. An avid pilot and sailor as well as an electrical and mechanical engineer, he made his money consulting and developing properties, then retired early.

After Maye and Errol divorced in 1980, Elon mostly lived with his father, who says he owned thoroughbred horses, a yacht, several houses and a Cessna. One of their homes was in Waterkloof, a leafy suburb of Pretoria that was popular with foreign diplomats.

Wanderlust ran on both sides of the family. On holidays, Errol and his kids would travel, he said: to Europe, Hong Kong, throughout the United States. Or they'd take the plane to Lake Tanganyika, where Errol had a stake in an emerald mine. Elon would later get his own pilot's license, but he no longer has time to fly.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140414070701/http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_25541126/rocket-man-otherworldy-ambitions-elon-musk

And here from a Business Insider article

When I was a kid, oddly, my father was like, Anglican, Church of England. I was sent to Anglican Sunday school, but then his partners in his engineering firm were Jewish, so I was sent to the Jewish preschool. It was also nearby, and it was a good school. So I'm singing "Hava Nagila" one day, Jesus the next day, and as a kid you're like, well I guess I will just sing along, you know. But I would say, from what I see, after reading all the religious documents. I do agree with some of the principles, like turn the other cheek. Basically, forgive people instead of an eye for an eye is a good principle. And love thy neighbor as thyself, I think is a good principle. But do I think all these stories are literally accurate? That seems unlikely.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-interview-axel-springer-tesla-accelerate-advent-of-sustainable-energy

So he has a Hebrew first name and there’s the emerald mine and the Jewish preschool, but all of that is merely suggestive. I don’t think that he is. His mother seems to be German or Pennsylvania Dutch heritage and his father has British ancestry and an Anglican background. The pursuits of the family to me sound like the classic adventurous European spirit.

[Pia Kahn]

I think it is good news. Time will tell how much free speech he will allow. As far as I know the EU has recently introduced new anti free speech legislation. But, if government can no longer outsource censorship then this is also a good development.

I find Elon Musk to be witty and eloquent. I feel sympathy for him and hope that my expectations will be met, but who knows?