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Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby Revision » 4 months 1 week ago (Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:53 pm)




Adolf Hitler - Speech at the Sportpalast - January 30, 1941:
"It is important, my countrymen, to shout this to the world again and again, for they are brazen democratic liars who assert that the so-called Authoritarian States are out to conquer the world, while in fact, the conquerors of the world are our old enemies. The British World Empire has left behind an icy stream of blood and tears in the path of its creation. It rules today, undoubtedly, a tremendous section of the globe."
https://archive.org/details/1941-01-30- ... portpalast



Joachim von Ribbentrop on Germany's foreign policy (August 31, 1946):
"I knew only this much of it, that it never concerned itself with plans of a world domination, but rather, for example, with the elimination of the consequences of Versailles and with the food problems of the German people."
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-31-46.asp



The British War Bluebook: Supplementary Communication from the German Chancellor Handed to His Majesty's Ambassador on August 25, 1939:
"The following is a translation of the text of a verbal communication made to Sir Nevile Henderson by Herr Hitler at his interview on the 25th August:

[...]

The assertion that Germany affected to conquer the world was ridiculous. The British Empire embraced 40 million square kilometres, Russia 19 million square kilometres, America 9 1/2 million square kilometres, whereas Germany embraced less than 600,000 square kilometres. It is quite clear who it is who desires to conquer the world."
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/wwii/blbk68.asp
The mainstream Holocaust story is a baseless conspiracy theory.

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Re: Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby Otium » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:53 am)

Here's a quote from the Reich Press Cheif, Dr. Otto Dietrich, from a secret interview between himself and Lord Kemsley (at 11:00 a.m. on July 27th, 1939), an English press magnate with connections to HMG government:

"We often read in the English press and others, that Germany is out for 'world domination'. This is utterly wrong. I am personally in constant contact with the Führer and I know that this idea is wrong and unfounded. Hitler has no mind to dominate the world. He only wants to serve the racial interests of the German nation. Of course you must remember that we are a numerous people."

The National Archives, Kew: FO 800/316.
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Re: Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby Hektor » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:27 am)

Otium wrote:Here's a quote from the Reich Press Cheif, Dr. Otto Dietrich, from a secret interview between himself and Lord Kemsley (at 11:00 a.m. on July 27th, 1939), an English press magnate with connections to HMG government:

"We often read in the English press and others, that Germany is out for 'world domination'. This is utterly wrong. I am personally in constant contact with the Führer and I know that this idea is wrong and unfounded. Hitler has no mind to dominate the world. He only wants to serve the racial interests of the German nation. Of course you must remember that we are a numerous people."

The National Archives, Kew: FO 800/316.


There must be a reason for the polemical type of targeting of Dr. Dietrich in the Allied press:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... 20Dietrich

What Dr Dietrich says there was actually supported by the overall content of NS-publications at the time. That is indeed a problem for orthodox historians, but they found a way of 'solving' that problem, which is otherwise enormous. They simply cherry-pick snippets from Mein Kampf, Speeches and other Publications as well as several policies and actions undertaken by the NS-Government in the 1930s and then extrapolate it to fit their preconceived notion on 'how things really were'.
E.g. they may pick the following:
* snippets from Mein Kampf that use the term "Lebensraum".
* The fact that they reintroduced compulsory military service and increased the size of their Army (from 1935 onward).
* The armaments.
* The 'demand for Colonies' in the NSDAP-program (25 points).
* The 'Remilitarization of the Rheinland'.
* Policy wise the re-annexation of formerly German territories. (Saarland, Austria, Sudetenland, Bohemia, etc. )
* The "Militarism', which is attributed to the SA, SS, HJ wearing uniforms similar to military uniforms.
* Of course the Hitler Youth was organized with ranks, uniforms and also engaged in sports, marching, camping, etc. That CAN be conducive for military training later. But to construct 'world domination' as intent behind this is rather rich.

With this in the pocket, they then start poisoning the well further. In fact that is done almost automatically with the perpetual information provided via the media and book that tries to criminalize and demonize the German armed forces.

This is however not exactly a rational approach and the logic is twisted. It's highly suggestive, deceptive and misleading to work like this and try to get the audience to reach your foregone conclusions. It's essentially using the audiences lack of knowledge what went on in the 1930s on the overall level. Also the experiences with aggression against Germany prior to the NSDAP having taken over in 1933 are entirely ignored. Germany was invaded during the 1920s by France and Belgium and this went with abuses against the civilian population. It made clear that Germany needed a military force sufficient to defend the country an to be taken seriously on the international level. You won't be taken seriously by other countries and governments, if they think you are weak and not ready to use military force, if necessary.

There was of course an international campaign going on as well. And Hitler was perpetually accused of planning aggression against its neighbors or 'world domination'. This is actually quite odd, given what the reason for this might be. Germany was only one of many countries. So why the obsession with Germany and Hitler?

One can e.g. search and look for "The German danger" and Churchill.... this went on for quite a while:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advance ... startPos=0

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Re: Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby Waldgänger » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:07 pm)

Hektor wrote:* The "Militarism', which is attributed to the SA, SS, HJ wearing uniforms similar to military uniforms.
* Of course the Hitler Youth was organized with ranks, uniforms and also engaged in sports, marching, camping, etc. That CAN be conducive for military training later. But to construct 'world domination' as intent behind this is rather rich.


These points in particular were used in photography & film to frighten people from different cultures into accepting a war footing against Germany, pre-1939. The Hitlerjugend and many other organisations employing their own military-looking standards of clothing was a longstanding Germanic tradition. Cultures that lacked the concepts of Studentenverbindungen, Wandervogel, and even innocent Bavarian-Austrian Jägers (all of whom had distinctive uniforms) could not understand this.

It's context, always context, and a lack of it, which leads to the dehumanising of the German culture of that time (and necessarily of the times before), reducing them to merely evil agents of darkness.

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Re: Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby Hektor » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:47 pm)

I recall there also being facilities (in the US) that produced "Nazi Scenes" together with actors. Can find info on this right now. But I think that's something that should be investigated. The whole media campaign against Germany prior to 1939 deserves a thorough study.

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Re: Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby hermod » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:31 pm)

Who could blame Hitler for rearming his undefended country after the victors of 1918 had vastly demonstrated that they were not planning to comply with the clause of the Versailles Treaty on their own disarmament?

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"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

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Re: Hitler and Ribbentrop on the "World Conquest" Allegation

Postby hermod » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:01 pm)

Hektor wrote:I recall there also being facilities (in the US) that produced "Nazi Scenes" together with actors. Can find info on this right now. But I think that's something that should be investigated. The whole media campaign against Germany prior to 1939 deserves a thorough study.


Is this what you're talking about?






Hollywood on the Hudson, by Richard Koszarski:
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https://books.google.it/books?id=1NzOhg ... &q&f=false


Jewish Telegraphic Agency:
Nazi Paper Assails March of Time; Charges Film Was “faked”

November 15, 1935

Berlin (Nov. 12)

The Voelkischer Beobachter, personal organ of Reichsfuehrer Hitler, today assailed the American March of Time film, “New Palestine,” charging that scenes of persecution of Jews were not made in Germany but faked in the United States.

The uniformed Nazis shown raiding Jews shops, the paper said, were not Nazis but men in the uniforms of American soldiers, which closely resembles those of the storm troops.

The Beobachter declared that the scenes were filmed in New London, Connecticut, with the participation of the local population and United States naval forces.

This is how the public is being misled about Germany,” the Beobachter said.

Ralph Bolan, vice-president of March of Time, Inc., explained yesterday to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency that no claim was ever made that the entire film was screened in Germany. However,” he said, “we took great pains in our research work to make the scenes as accurate and as close to fact as possible. The shots of persecution of Jews were based on reports by the Associated Press, the United Press and the New York Times.

He stated that the scenes of Nazis and storm troops riding in trucks were made in Germany and then combined with scenes enacted in the United States. Parts of the picture were made in New London, he said.

https://www.jta.org/archive/nazi-paper- ... -was-faked


‘Nazi’ Concentration Camps on Staten Island?

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By Hengist. In 1981, Jack Glenn, director of the popular 1940s newsreel series March of Time, died at age 76. His obituary, distributed by the Associated Press [and published in the Bergen, New Jersey, Sunday Record on February 15, 1981] let slip an amazing revelation:

“As senior director for the popular movie house newsreel, he often created world events with actors and movie sets. One such news feature film, Inside Nazi Germany, made in 1938, included footage of a “concentration camp” that was filmed on Staten Island with scores of New York City actors. Much of the film’s footage was shot within the borders of the Third Reich by a free-lance cameraman, but [Louis] Rochement [Glenn's producer] felt that the film had been censored by the German authorities and ordered Glenn to re-enact widely reported Nazi camp atrocities.”

Millions of Americans watching the “news”-reels in their local theatres were convinced that they were seeing “the real thing.” How many such images of “reality” that we see on a regular basis are actually the creation of movie magicians?

(Image above: A scene from “Inside Nazi Germany,” the 1938 film produced by Jack Glenn—filmed on Staten Island, not Germany).

It is a fact that the Allies hired Hollywood directors to produce propaganda films after the war instead of using regular army footage.

David Irving commented: Some years ago a British television channel, BBC2 I think, featured an exposé on Glenn’s The March of Time “documentaries.” Among the facts the British investigation revealed were that the famous scenes of SA Brownshirt thugs roughing up their enemies in the streets of Berlin and forcing Jews to scrub the streets in Vienna in 1938, of Japanese soldiers tossing babies in the air from their bayonets, and certain other atrocities, were hate-propaganda filmed in the backlots of Hollywood. (This is not the same as saying that such things did not happen.)

Like much of the film footage produced from GPU (Soviet secret police) archives these shots are now indiscriminately used by modern television producers to flesh out their own documentaries.

They have duped the world’s public for years, and done their own bit to ensure that the wheels of hatred keep churning.

Jonathan Swift wrote: “So, nat’ralists observe, a flea hath smaller fleas that on him prey, and these have smaller still to bite ‘em, and so proceed ad infinitum.” Insert whatever word you choose instead of “flea” and the principle remains the same.

While researching my biography of Dr Joseph Goebbels — no slouch when it came to film propaganda himself — I found that British Intelligence had “re-enacted” the Nazi hangings of the July 20 assassins on piano wire — using actors of course — and had smuggled the film into Switzerland for secret viewings there.

All of this reminds me that the chief cameraman on Schindler’s List explained in the German cinematographers’ trade journal, a year or two after the film unsurprisingly scooped the Oscars, that the reason they had made the film in black-and-white was that in later years people will not be able to tell it apart from a documentary.

https://davidduke.com/nazi-concentratio ... en-island/


Inside Nazi Germany

BW, 16 min., mono sound, released Jan. 21, 1938, as volume 4, issue 6, by the March of Time

PRODUCER: Louis de Rochemont
DIRECTOR: Jack Glenn

This controversial film was produced by the March of Time as a single-subject newsreel for its January 1938 monthly release. It has been called "the first commercially released anti-Nazi American motion picture" (Fielding, p. 201). It began with raw footage shot by Julien Bryan in Germany. However, the content of the film was bland and disappointing. Jack Glenn filmed re-enactments, using anti-Nazi German-Americans living in Hoboken, NJ. These fake scenes included military training, propaganda, censoring mail, listening to Hitler on radio, collecting money, political prisoners, concentration camps. Tom Orchard arranged for some charwomen working in March of Time's New York office building to pose as Catholic nuns in jail, filmed through makeshift jail bars cut out of cardboard in front of the camera lens. Glenn persuaded American pro-Nazi Fritz Kuhn to stage some scenes in his German-American Bund office. When Kuhn discovered he had been tricked, Walter Winchell reported that he was recorded screaming "I will be ruint. Ruint!" at a screening in the March of Time building.

The mixture of real and fake images was accompanied by an anti-Nazi narration, ending with the following: "Nazi Germany faces her destiny with one of the great war machines in history. And the inevitable destiny of the great war machines of the past has been to destroy the peace of the world, its people, and the governments of their time."

The anti-Nazi narration sometimes conflicted with the pro-Nazi pictures. Warner Bros. refused to exhibit the picture in any of its 200 theaters because Jack Warner thought in was pro-Nazi. But David Selznick praised it as "one of the greatest and most important reels in the history of pictures" (Fielding, p. 199). It has been selected by the Librarian of Congress for the National Film Registry.

SOURCES:
Fielding, Raymond. The March of Time, 1935-1951. New York: Oxford University Press, 1978, pp. 187-201.
National Film Registry (alphabetical) from Library of Congress, or listed by year

http://sunnycv.com/steve/filmnotes/insi ... rmany.html


'Nazi' Concentration Camps on Staten Island?

In 1981, Jack Glenn, director of the popular 1940's newsreel series March of Time, died at age 76. His obituary, distributed by the Associated Press [and published in the Bergen, New Jersey, Sunday Record on February 15, 1981] let slip an amazing revelation:

"As senior director for the popular movie house newsreel, he often created world events with actors and movie sets. One such news feature film, Inside Nazi Germany, made in 1938, included footage of a "concentration camp" that was filmed on Staten Island with scores of New York City actors. Much of the film's footage was shot within the borders of the Third Reich by a free-lance cameraman, but [Louis] Rochement [Glenn's producer] felt that the film had been censored by the German authoritiesand ordered Glenn to re-enact widely reported Nazi camp atrocities."

Millions of Americans watching the "news"-reels in their local theatres were convinced that they were seeing "the real thing." How many such images of "reality" that we see on a regular basis are actually the creation of movie magicians?

It is a fact that the Allies hired Hollywood directors to produce propaganda films after the war instead of using regular army footage.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/fake/GlennObit.html


NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS ON STATEN ISLAND?

In 1981, Jack Glenn, director of the popular 1940s newsreel series, March of Time, dies at age 76.

His obituary, distributed by the Associated Press (and published in the Bergen, New Jersey Sunday Record on February 15, 1981) let slip an amazing
revelation. Accorfing to the obit:

As senior director for the popular movie house newsreel, he often created world events with actors and movie sets. One such news feature film, Inside Nazi Germany, made in 1938, included footage of a "concentration camp" that was filmed on Staten Island with scores of New York City actors. Much of the films footage was shot within the borders of the Third Reich by a freelance cameraman, but (Louis) Rochemont [Glenn's producer] felt that the film had been censored by German authorities and ordered Glenn to reenact wide reported (rumored?) Nazi camp atrocities.

So it was that the media itself was already "creating" a Holocaust before the so-called atrocities had allegedly started happening. And millions of Americans watching the newsreels in there local theatres were convinced that they were seeing "the real thing." How many such images of "reality" that we see on a regular basis are acutally the creation of movie magicians?

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=10023
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925


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