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The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 5 months ago (Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:23 am)

Interesting, it seems that "Holocaust denial" is on the rise, combined with people simply no longer caring. In some ways it is suprising, seeing how often it is taught in schools and mentioned. This study says 20% of non-Christians haven't heard of the holocaust, and I wonder how many of those are Muslim migrants, rather than ethnic French atheists?

Is it just me, or has anyone noticed a recent increase in polls, surveys, and "studies" by Jewish supremacists on the "rising anti-semitism" they claim is happening? Or is this simply some dumb excuse to get more funding for "Holocaust studies" by polling people who merely did not really pay any attention in history classes?

From Israeli newspaper Haaretz:
20 Percent of non-Christians in France Never Heard of the Holocaust, Survey Finds

Ignorance about the Holocaust and revisionism appeared strongest among far-right and far-left voters, and people who said they follow a faith that is not Christianity

More than 20 percent of non-Christians in France never heard of the Holocaust, while another 15 percent said it’s either an exaggeration or a lie.

Those are among the results of a survey of 1,014 Christian and non-Christian adults, as well as those who said they were without religion, conducted this month for the American Jewish Committee and two other groups by the Ifop research group.

Ignorance about the Holocaust and revisionism appeared strongest among far-right and far-left voters, and people who said they follow a faith that is not Christianity. Islam is France’s second-largest religion, with 8.8 percent of the population according to a 2017 Pew study. Judaism is third with 0.8 percent.
...
Among supporters of the far-right politician Marine Le Pen, 15 percent said they had never heard of the Holocaust. That figure was 10 percent among supporters of Jean-Luc Melenchon, a far-left politician. Only 4-5 percent of supporters of more centrist politicians indicated total ignorance with regards to the Holocaust.
http://archive.fo/OEmjS or http://web.archive.org/web/201812301016 ... -1.6789453


A recent study in America, claiming 2/3 of Millenials have no idea what "Auschwitz" is:
Holocaust study: Two-thirds of millennials don’t know what Auschwitz is

Two-thirds of American millennials surveyed in a recent poll cannot identify what Auschwitz is, according to a study released on Holocaust Remembrance Day that found that knowledge of the genocide that killed 6 million Jews during World War II is not robust among American adults.

Twenty-two percent of millennials in the poll said they haven’t heard of the Holocaust or are not sure whether they’ve heard of it — twice the percentage of U.S. adults as a whole who said the same.

The study, conducted by the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, interviewed 1,350 American adults in February and recruited by telephone and an online non-probability sample.
http://archive.fo/HkA3T or http://web.archive.org/web/201804130925 ... knowledge/


Another European study:
Poll Finds Memory Of The Holocaust Fading Fast In Europe
A survey of more than 7,000 Europeans across the continent revealed the memory of the Holocaust is fading quickly.
One in 20 Europeans surveyed have never heard of the Holocaust.
One in five French citizens between the ages of 18 and 34 have never heard of it either.
Nearly one in five respondents believe anti-Semitism is a response to the Jewish people’s own behavior.

A survey of more than 7,000 Europeans across the continent revealed the Holocaust might soon no longer be a household term, as one in 20 Europeans admitted they’d never heard of the event that involved the mass murder of nearly 6 million Jews, 7 million Soviets and 2 million non-Jewish Polish civilians.
http://archive.fo/XPuYf or http://web.archive.org/web/201811272306 ... tism-jews/


This whole "People don't know what the holocaust is" seems to indicate also that there is an eroding confidence with our institutions. Young people are much more skeptical about what they're being told by teachers and other authority figures. Growing up on the internet, things that have been "common sense" for decades are being questioned and given more scrutiny. Government, media and the educational system are no longer trusted by Americans. The approval ratings of Congress and the media are ridiculously low. So even if these people do happen to speak the truth, lots of folks won’t care because they don’t trust anything they say.


Back in 2001, Stephen Steinlight (former director of the American Jewish Committee) wrote an article entitled "The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Demography" (http://archive.fo/Hsqfu)
In it, he talks about the well-established Jewish influence on US immigration policy as well as the effects this demographic change will have on Jews in the USA. Writing to his fellow Jews, he asks:

"What are some of those large vexing questions we would prefer not to speak aloud? Let's throw out a few and see how many sleepers we can awaken. The big one for starters: is the emerging new multicultural American nation good for the Jews? Will a country in which enormous demographic and cultural change, fueled by unceasing large-scale non-European immigration, remain one in which Jewish life will continue to flourish as nowhere else in the history of the Diaspora? In an America in which people of color form the plurality, as has already happened in California, most with little or no historical experience with or knowledge of Jews, will Jewish sensitivities continue to enjoy extraordinarily high levels of deference and will Jewish interests continue to receive special protection? Does it matter that the majority non-European immigrants have no historical experience of the Holocaust or knowledge of the persecution of Jews over the ages and see Jews only as the most privileged and powerful of white Americans? Is it important that Latinos, who know us almost entirely as employers for the menial low-wage cash services they perform for us (such a blowing the leaves from our lawns in Beverly Hills or doing our laundry in Short Hills), will soon form one quarter of the nation's population?"

The whole thing is a very good read, albeit pretty long. There are a ton of gems in there. Ethnocentric Zionists have always been whining for people to recognize their silly hoax, but it seems to have picked up recently. If these poll results are legitimate, "The tides are turning" indeed. :)
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: France: 20% of non-Christians never heard of holocaust; 15% say exaggeration/lie

Postby borjastick » 4 years 5 months ago (Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:01 am)

Yes never forget the time of year. We are in the run-up to the annual bending of the knee to the chosenites for their festive season called Holocaust Remembrance Day on Jan 27th.

Thus the volume on jewish sufferink and persecution rises to number 11 as we are 'educated' to understand their problems and that anti-semitism was a terrible thing which sadly keeps coming back to haunt them.

Interesting that chap you quote last in your post Lamprecht that he and all other jews of influence always talk and rant loud about jew persecution by us Goys, but never discuss what they might do in the world to change their ways and stop people hating them so much. I mean if I kept doing something that endangered my health, I might stop doing it, don't you think?
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Re: France: 20% of non-Christians never heard of holocaust; 15% say exaggeration/lie

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 4 years 5 months ago (Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:22 am)

The Industry wrote:one in 20 Europeans admitted they’d never heard of the event that involved the mass murder of nearly 6 million Jews, 7 million Soviets and 2 million non-Jewish Polish civilians.


Don't you just love how they take the Jewish persecution of Christian Ukrainians, and say it was part of the 'holocau$t'?

They claim that people aren't aware of the holocaust, but intentionally put misinformation into the mix for people unaware of the holocaust.

They'll take anyone's suffering, and make it about themselves. Just like how Jews act like blood libel accusation was horrible persecution against them by the Christian Church, when it was in reality, the natural human reaction in response to what they did and might still do unto unfortunate children on the Passover.

Truly, the Holodomer was not Germans persecuting people, it was Jews persecuting people. And of course, it's always the German's fault.

In some ways, it's almost better to not know about this cruel world.

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Re: France: 20% of non-Christians never heard of holocaust; 15% say exaggeration/lie

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 4 months ago (Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:11 pm)

New "terribly worrying" poll finds millions of people in the UK do not believe in the "Holocaust"

More than 2.6 million British people think the Holocaust is a myth, a poll has found.

Five per cent of UK adults do not believe millions of Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis
, according to the survey, which survivors and anti-racism campaigners said pointed to a “terribly worrying” level of denial.

A further 8 per cent of the British public claims the scale of the genocide has been exaggerated
, according to research released to coincide with Holocaust Memorial Day.

“Such widespread ignorance and even denial is shocking,” said Olivia Marks-Woldman, chief executive of the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (HMDT), which commissioned the poll.

Six million Jewish people were murdered by Germany’s Nazi regime during the Second World War as part of Adolf Hitler’s campaign of extermination.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 46741.html or http://archive.fo/hg6iv
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: France: 20% of non-Christians never heard of holocaust; 15% say exaggeration/lie

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 1 month ago (Thu May 02, 2019 6:50 pm)

New article claims half of Austrians don't know about the so-called "Holocaust"
I don't know if these are just exaggerated figures to "prove" we need more "Holocaust education" -- or something else.
Like Americans, Austrians are forgetting the Holocaust. These are the shocking numbers
Ryan W. Miller | USA TODAY
Published 12:23 PM EDT May 2, 2019
A year after finding that American's knowledge of the Holocaust was waning and less than a week after another shooting inside a synagogue, a new survey says Austrians might also be forgetting the genocide.
More than half of Austrians surveyed didn't know six million Jewish people were killed in the Holocaust, with nearly 60% of millennials and Generation Z not knowing the death toll, either. Furthermore, a quarter of Austrians and almost a third of its millennials and Gen Z-ers thought one million or fewer Jews were killed.
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Last year, a similar survey in the United States found almost a third of Americans and 41% of millennials incorrectly believed two million or fewer Jewish people died. In Austria, those numbers were slightly higher: 36% of all Austrians and 42% of millennials and Gen Z-ers thought two million or fewer Jews were killed.
The results come as anti-Semitism continues to rise around the world. In 2017, the United States saw a 57% spike from the year before in incidents motivated by anti-Jewish bias, according to the Anti-Defamation League
. And on International Holocaust Remembrance Day in January, António Guterres, secretary-general of the United Nations, warned that "this centuries-old hatred is not only still strong – it is getting worse."
...
Among the other findings in Austria: 42% of people couldn't name Mauthausen concentration camp when asked to list death camps, concentration camps or ghettoes.
Mauthausen – just 100 miles from Austria's capital Vienna – was a concentration camp that the Nazi's themselves thought was among their most brutal concentration camps, said Yariv Lapid, director of the Levine Institute for Holocaust Education at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.
...
Thirty-eight percent say they thought National Socialism/Nazism could come to power again, with that belief even higher among millennials and Generation Z at 43%. More than half of Austrians said something like the Holocaust could happen again in Europe, and 47% said it could happen in the United States.
https://archive.is/R9uqx or http://web.archive.org/web/201905020629 ... 500048002/
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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27% of Mexicans believe Holocaust a myth or exaggerated

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 2 weeks ago (Thu May 23, 2019 7:32 am)

According to the ADL, cited by Mexico News Daily, 27% of Mexicans who have heard about the "Holocaust" believe that the event is either a myth or exaggerated.
In Mexico, anti-Semitic attitudes rose 11 percentage points from 2014 to 2017, according to an Anti-Defamation League report published in 2017, the most recent data available. That means that while just 50,000 Jews live in Mexico, 31,000,000 Mexicans hold antisemitic beliefs...

Fifty-six per cent of Mexicans believe “Jews have too much power in the business world,” 49% believe Jews are more loyal to Israel than Mexico and 27% think the Holocaust was a “myth” or “exaggerated by history.”
https://archive.fo/B4JRh or http://web.archive.org/web/201905210101 ... -the-rise/

From the ADL: http://archive.fo/0L89L#selection-3050.0-3050.3

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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"Alarming" number of Middle Easterners deny "Holocaust"

Postby Lamprecht » 3 years 10 months ago (Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:23 pm)

The racist hate group known as the "Anti Defamation League" (ADL) lamented the lack of Holocaust belief in the Arabic world where nearly two thirds of those who have heard about the Holocaust believe it is a myth or highly exaggerated.

Poll: Alarming Number of Arabs Living in The Middle East Deny the Holocaust
By JOL Staff - July 17, 2019

The denial of the Holocaust is prevalent in the Arab world. A survey conducted recently by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) revealed that among those interviewed in the Arab Middle East who had heard of the Holocaust only 38% said they had heard about the atrocities and “believe the historical narrative “. While 63% of respondents said they heard about the Holocaust and think “it’s a myth or it has been greatly exaggerated.”

Interestingly, this abhorrent denial was called out by Dr. Mohammad Alissa, secretary-general of the Arab World League. Who chastised them by saying, “True Islam is against these crimes. It ranks them at the highest level of criminal sanctions and among the worst human atrocities ever. One wonders who would make sense, sympathize or even minimize the scope of this brutal crime”.

Allisa also expressed that “our great sympathy goes out to the victims of the Holocaust, an incident that has made mankind tremble in his heart, and created an event whose horrors for a fair or passionate mind can not be denied or minimized. the peace “.

The Arab World League is a non-governmental organization of Sunni scholars based in Mecca. According to its website, their main donor is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
https://www.jerusalemonline.com/alarmin ... holocaust/ or https://archive.is/8xab3



Another article talking about the recent African American school principal fired for claiming some people don't believe the Holocaust claims Evidence shows Holocaust 'denier' trend is growing"

GUEST EDITORIAL: Evidence shows the 'denier' trend is growing
https://www.enidnews.com/opinion/guest- ... 23013.html


More on that event here:

African-American school principal seemingly denies Holocaust
viewtopic.php?t=12583
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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15.6% of Italians are "Holocaust Deniers" up from 2.7 in 2004

Postby Lamprecht » 3 years 4 months ago (Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:51 am)

Recent Italian article claims in 2004, 2.7% of Italians were "Holocaust deniers" but now that number has climbed to 15.6%. Then number who claim it is exaggerated climbed from 11.1% to 16.1% in the same period.

Indagine Eurispes: il 15,6% crede che la Shoah non sia mai esistita, erano il 2,7% nel 2004
http://web.archive.org/web/202001302128 ... 247140837/ or http://archive.vn/Cx0mj
Google translate: http://archive.fo/wJe98
Eurispes survey: 15.6% [of Italians] believe that the Shoah never existed, they were 2.7% in 2004

ROME - From 2004 to today, the number of those who think that the Shoah never happened has increased: they were only 2.7%, today they are 15.6%. The Eurispes 'Italy 2020 Report' supports it. Those who downsize the reach of the Shoah from 11.1% to 16.1% are on the increase, albeit to a less striking extent.

Edit:
Fifteen Percent of Italians Are Holocaust Deniers, Poll Shows
http://archive.is/kVHpD or http://web.archive.org/web/202001311845 ... -1.8474574
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— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: France: 20% of non-Christians never heard of holocaust; 15% say exaggeration/lie

Postby stinky » 3 years 4 months ago (Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:39 pm)

Regarding the trend, promoters of the hoax will use it (as they already have) as a reason to force even more propaganda into schools and for imposing more limitations on speech. Framed as a prevention to rising "anti-semitism" and the coming next holocaust.
I think what the trend actually shows is the liberation of peoples minds as a result of a vast increase in (less restricted - although there has been a comprehensive effort to reverse it more recently) information accessible on the internet & the tremendous work of revisionists and sites like CODOH.
This trend is a win for revisionists, against the massive, extremely well funded, full-spectrum, 24/7 propaganda apparatus and increasing censorship & punitive measures.
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SWC calls on YouTube to remove Korean Holocaust denial video

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 8 months ago (Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:44 pm)

Is "Holocaust denial" now spreading to the Korean peninsula? Why does it even matter what Koreans believe happened in Europe in the 1940s?

This is exactly what I like to see. I can't imagine that Koreans appreciate Jewish-American and/or Israel-based hate speech organizations declaring what they are not allowed to talk about. The Koreans did not have anything to do with what was going on in Europe during WWII: they were dealing with a Japanese occupation. They do not have any skin in this game and I doubt that they have mandatory "Holocaust education" in their schools. This makes them a great candidate for looking at both sides of this debate and determining which one makes the most sense. However, I doubt that there is very much interest in this topic in Korea; the population does not have very high rates of English-speaking, and finding a Korean that speaks German is probably going to be a difficult task.

SWC [Simon Wiesenthal Center] calls on YouTube to remove Korean Holocaust denial video
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http://archive.fo/Wiiyu | http://web.archive.org/web/202009050332 ... deo-641130

Unsurprisingly, the original video (which is in Korean with hardcoded Korean subtitles) was removed from YouTube for "hate speech" - I am trying to find a copy of it somewhere with official English subtitles.
【홀로코스트】 역사는 승리자들에 의해 기록된다ㅣ유대인 학살을 부풀리는 자들ㅣ비하인드 전쟁사ㅣSPIKA STUDIO 스피카 스튜디오

Google Translate: 【Holocaust】 History is recorded by the victorsㅣPeople who inflate the massacre of the JewsㅣThe history of war behind the scenesㅣSPIKA STUDIO Spica Studio

For now, the video is mirrored here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9YyhpX3L0M
Here is a BitChute mirror as the YT link will certainly not last: https://www.bitchute.com/video/xSbdnlSlGttG/

The auto-generated Korean subtitles: https://paste2.org/5Cz6EW71
Google translated into English: https://paste2.org/AsUx5OhF

Related:

Black Canadian Football player and Thai royalty deny Hoax
viewtopic.php?t=9551


EDIT: Here I just found another BitChute mirror that has English subtitles hardcoded:

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— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 8 months ago (Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:57 am)

From a poll of Americans aged 18-39:
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Discussion thread:

Survey: 2/3 of young Americans don't know 6 million, 11% think Jews deserved it, 15% accept "neo-Nazism"
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 7 months ago (Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:24 pm)

According to the ADL figures from their "Global 100" survey: https://global100.adl.org/map

Approximately 2/3 of the people surveyed around the world who have heard about the "Holocaust" believe the official story. For Sub-Saharan Africa and Asia, that's about half, and for the Middle East, less than 1/4. Unfortunately, in these figures, Latin America is not separated from the USA and Canada (you can go country-by-country though). The highest rates of belief in the official narrative is in Oceania (Australia and New Zealand), followed closely by Western Europe, and then the Americas & Eastern Europe.

The methodology of the survey is described here: https://global100.adl.org/about/global100

Q: Have you heard about the Holocaust in Europe during World War Two?

Yes:
54% - Worldwide (WW)
24% - Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA)
44% - Asia
38% - Middle East + North Africa (MENA)
93% - Oceania (OCE; Australia + New Zealand)
82% - Eastern Europe (EE)
94% - Western Europe (WE)
77% - Western Hemisphere (WH; North + South America)

No:
35% - WW
57% - SSA
41% - Asia
59% - MENA
7% - OCE
15% - EE
6% - WE
22% - WH

Don't Know: (volunteered)
10% - WW
19% - SSA
15% - Asia
3% - MENA
1% - OCE
2% - EE
1% - WE
1% - WH


Q: Which of the following statement comes closest to your views about the Holocaust in Europe during World War Two? (ASKED ONLY OF THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD OF THE HOLOCAUST)

The Holocaust is a myth and did not happen:
4% - WW
8% - SSA
5% - Asia
11% - MENA
0% - OCE
2% - EE
1% - WE
2% - WH

The Holocaust happened, but the number of Jews who died in it has been greatly exaggerated by history:
28% - WW
36% - SSA
36% - Asia
52% - MENA
8% - OCE
22% - EE
10% - WE
19% - WH

The Holocaust happened, and the number of Jews who died in it have been fairly described by history:
62% - WW
48% - SSA
53% - Asia
22% - MENA
88% - OCE
69% - EE
82% - WE
72% - WH

Don't know: (volunteered)
7% - WW
8% - SSA
6% - Asia
14% - MENA
4% - OCE
7% - EE
7% - WE
8% - WH
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:08 pm)

1/4 of Dutch youth are "Holocaust deniers"

Is it merely a reflection of the growing Islamic immigrant population?

Almost a quarter of young Dutch deny Holocaust or think it's exaggerated-survey
https://www.reuters.com/world/almost-qu ... 023-01-25/ | https://archive.is/ykV04

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— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world

Postby borjastick » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:24 pm)

Are you asking solely about the Netherlands or in general across the globe?

If this is a general observation then I would say people are open to holocaust question and denial due to how jews seem to cause so much trouble. israel seems to cause so much trouble and many people dislike israel due to its attitude and treatment of Palestinians.
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Re: The rapid proliferation of Holocaust skepticism across the world

Postby Hektor » 4 months 1 week ago (Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:00 am)

Lamprecht wrote:According to the ADL figures from their "Global 100" survey: https://global100.adl.org/map

Approximately 2/3 of the people surveyed around the world who have heard about the "Holocaust" believe the official story. For Sub-Saharan Africa and Asia, that's about half, and for the Middle East, less than 1/4. Unfortunately, in these figures, Latin America is not separated from the USA and Canada (you can go country-by-country though). The highest rates of belief in the official narrative is in Oceania (Australia and New Zealand), followed closely by Western Europe, and then the Americas & Eastern Europe.

The methodology of the survey is described here: https://global100.adl.org/about/global100

Q: Have you heard about the Holocaust in Europe during World War Two?

Yes:
54% - Worldwide (WW)
24% - Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA)
44% - Asia
38% - Middle East + North Africa (MENA)
93% - Oceania (OCE; Australia + New Zealand)
82% - Eastern Europe (EE)
94% - Western Europe (WE)
77% - Western Hemisphere (WH; North + South America)

No:
35% - WW
57% - SSA
41% - Asia
59% - MENA
7% - OCE
15% - EE
6% - WE
22% - WH

Don't Know: (volunteered)
10% - WW
19% - SSA
15% - Asia
3% - MENA
1% - OCE
2% - EE
1% - WE
1% - WH

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Holocaust Belief depends on the indoctrination having taken place. So the numbers of believers have grown over the years.
Virtually all that went through schools since the 1980s will "know" about it. It means they have been told this.

The number of skeptics was higher in the past. Because the number of people with war time experience was higher. That enables them to have a better judgement on matters. They witnessed behavior of the factions in war, but also noticed that the propaganda was deceptive.

But as one can learn from the ash conformity experiments, people tend to go with what the majority (and those considered authoritative) say.

I do think those that may not believe it is far higher, but they say they do, because of peer pressure.

Also there seems to be confusion about what Holocaust means. Deportations and concentration camps are not enough. But people think concentration camps exist, people died, hence the Holocaust must be real, even if exaggerated. It's a slippery slope and a word game.


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