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Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Enlightened Student » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:24 pm)

If you look at what the believers say of him as the Angel of Death. The Doctor who committed horrible atrocities against Jews, Twins, Gypsies, now Midgets we find out. The "Nazi Hunters" always claimed they knew exactly where he was yet never ever tried to capture or prosecute him. Was it because he wasn't going to play ball once he was in court making bogus claims that he did exactly what they said he did but instead actually expose the lies and propaganda.

I have read a lot of posts about Dr. Mengele on here but nothing really touching on why he was never arrested and prosecuted. I like all of you don't accept the devil like portrait they painted him as.

I also find it interesting that his son Rolf went to see him. I'm sure the "Nazi Hunters" or "Mossad" had tailed Rolf his entire life so I'm sure they knew about his trip to see his father. I like in the video I found on YouTube where he first states that his father exploded about how his son could ask him this and that it was propaganda. Notice how Rolf looks directly into the camera when stating this then stops after awhile pauses and starts to look around and says something about selection.


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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby borjastick » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:44 pm)

All very interesting but what is your conclusion?
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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Enlightened Student » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:54 pm)

borjastick wrote:All very interesting but what is your conclusion?


Basically that if they (Nazi Hunters) were to capture him that there would most definitely be a show trial and they (the Israeli prosecution) run the risk of Dr. Mengele exposing the entire myth. He was the one that was most demonized for what supposedly happened along with Hoess. So with Hoess out of the picture and Israel unable to threaten the good Doctor like they did to Hoess it would be tough for them to get Dr. Mengele to play ball. Dr. Mengele would have been the one that would have been able to set the record straight.

My question is do you think this is something is likely probable or do you have another take on it.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:03 pm)

Reminds me of the murder of Heinrich Himmler while in Allied captivity. The Jewish supremacists sure weren't going to let him expose the absurdity of the '6M & gas chambers'.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby borjastick » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:47 pm)

I do agree with you. I only asked in case you had arrived at another thought or answer. In those simple days where one could disappear into the hinterland of south america, and due to the paucity of communications like telephone, keeping him out of sight and out of mind was a good way of keeping him quiet. But then again a bullet in the head would prove more permanent.
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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Hohenems » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:04 pm)

The Israelis couldn't have threatened Höß. There was no such thing as an Israeli in 1945.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:14 pm)

I believe he was speaking figuratively. True, there was no country of 'Israel' in 1945, many claim there is still no "shitty little country" of 'Israel', but there were self claimed "children of Israel" and other racist Zionists preparing to steal and ethnically cleanse Palestine. That they tortured Hoess is now well known and admitted by them. Your minute semantic point does not stand.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Enlightened Student » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:25 pm)

Hohenems wrote:The Israelis couldn't have threatened Höß. There was no such thing as an Israeli in 1945.


Your right. There wasn't. I should have been more thorough with my explanation but I thought everyone here would understand my statement much like Hannover demonstrated.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby hermod » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:16 pm)

In fact Mengele was captured by American troops in the immediate postwar, kept for about 2 months and then released even if he had used his real name during his detention. At that time the Allies had already liberated tens of thousands of jews evacuated from Auschwitz to the Western concentration camps (Belsen, Bachau, etc.). They had already heard many "testimonies" but none of those "survivors" had apparently talked about "the terrible" Dr Mengele. That name was patently unknown to the American officers in charge of German POWs. Of course if Mengele had really been what we were said later, there was no way American officers in charge of German POWs could have ignored Mengele's name. Mengele's legend was visibly elaborated between the immediate postwar and the Nuremberg "trials".

Instead, in January 1945, as the Soviet Army advanced through western Poland, Mengele fled Auschwitz. He spent the next few weeks at the Gross-Rosen concentration camp, until its evacuation, and then made his way west, to evade capture by Soviet forces.

In the immediate postwar, Mengele found himself in US custody. Unaware that Mengele's name already stood on a list of wanted war criminals, however, US officials quickly released him. From the summer of 1945 until spring 1949, the physician, under false papers, worked as a farmhand near Rosenheim, Bavaria. At that time, his prosperous family aided his emigration to South America. Mengele settled in Argentina.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10007060


Mengele departed Auschwitz on the evening of January 17, 1945, with a ten-day head start on the advancing Russian Amy. Thus began a flight that successfully eluded his pursuers six years beyond his death. Mengele's first destination was Gross Rosen Concentration Camp. On February 16 he fled again, this time into the no-man's land between the Russian and Allied Armies. He was captured in a sweep by American troops and detained for two months, but was then released. Part of the time during his detention, as often during the rest of his life, Mengele used his correct name. Nonetheless, his captors did not recognize him, even though his name had been placed on lists of wanted war criminals, including the list published by the U.S. Judge Advocates General and the First Central Registry of War Criminals and Security Suspects. The oversight has been attributed to Allied administrative failure.

http://www.enotes.com/mengele-josef-ref ... gele-josef


It's said Mengele's name was on a list of "War Criminals". It's true but it was the Central Registry of War Criminals and Security Suspects (CROWCASS), a list of 60,000 (!) alleged Nazi "War Criminals". At that time all the SS were called "War Criminals" by the American occupation forces. Nothing about gas chambers or horrific experiments was associated with the name "Mengele" in that list.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t940367/
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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:29 pm)

It could be they seriously couldn't find him. I think that pain and drugs would make anyone break and cooperate with a show trial. If they'd got Mengele before Eichmann, it probably would have been Mengele who was tried, and in a similar fashion. Mengele displayed unmistakeable tardive diskenesia, an eyelid shutting malady associated with psychotic drugs, which the Israelis perhaps gave him.

Also, capturing Eichmann might have made others like Mengele step up their stealth and security.

Maybe Mengele did some procedures so his son couldn't be followed.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby hermod » 1 decade 3 months ago (Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:37 pm)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:It could be they seriously couldn't find him. I think that pain and drugs would make anyone break and cooperate with a show trial. If they'd got Mengele before Eichmann, it probably would have been Mengele who was tried, and in a similar fashion. Mengele displayed unmistakeable tardive diskenesia, an eyelid shutting malady associated with psychotic drugs, which the Israelis perhaps gave him.


According to Mossad agents, Mengele was found in Buenos Aires, but they allegedly let him go because they wanted to focus on Eichmann's arrest and extradition.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 76973.html
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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Enlightened Student » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:16 pm)

Still though after they successfully captured and convicted Eichmann they still knew where Dr. Mengele was.. To me it is puzzling that even believers dont question why if they knew where Dr. Mengele was, the feared ANGEL OF DEATH, he wasnt captured and tried.

Judging by the posts here on this thread it seems we all accept the theory that he probably wouldn't play ball and that is why he was left alone.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Creox » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:31 pm)

hermod wrote:
Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:It could be they seriously couldn't find him. I think that pain and drugs would make anyone break and cooperate with a show trial. If they'd got Mengele before Eichmann, it probably would have been Mengele who was tried, and in a similar fashion. Mengele displayed unmistakeable tardive diskenesia, an eyelid shutting malady associated with psychotic drugs, which the Israelis perhaps gave him.


According to Mossad agents, Mengele was found in Buenos Aires, but they allegedly let him go because they wanted to focus on Eichmann's arrest and extradition.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 76973.html



Interesting end to the interview:

SPIEGEL: Does the Mossad still hunt down old Nazis?

Eitan: That era is over. But that's not to say that such operations are completely a thing of the past.

SPIEGEL: What do you mean by that?

Eitan: It could very well be that a leader such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad suddenly finds himself before the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
SPIEGEL: Do you mean that seriously?

Eitan: Absolutely. Those who spread poison and want to eradicate another people has to expect such consequences.

So this guy is prepared to drag a state leader before the world court because he dares to say the Holocaust is fiction as conventionally portrayed. Brilliant!

Think of all the state leaders in the west we could bring up on war crimes if that precedent is set? lol...not :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Thames Darwin » 1 decade 3 months ago (Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:53 pm)

That's rich. The Israelis have Mengele found and they don't at least kill him? I'm not buying that for a second. They're just upset that they couldn't find the "Angel of Death." Instead they went with Eichmann the Zionist. Gee, I wonder why.

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Re: Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 1 decade 3 months ago (Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:00 am)

Ever wonder why they never captured Dr. Mengele

Because the hidden nazi in Argentina provided Wiesenthal with the wrong post code.
On purpose of course... :)

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