Do you think Jews control the holocaust revisionist "movement"?

[jarno]

What keeps the Holocaust going is the combination of arrogance with ignorance among Western Elites, nowadays. There is too many people benefitting from it in some way

The real scam is that various governments decided to do "lockdowns" for a virus with a 0.03% death rate (essentially 0 for under 40 year old's) and then blamed all of the economic problems that resulted on the virus itself, rather than their decisions.

As Lamprecht said because the survival rate of covid is high 97%, and that it primarily effected the elderly, this suggests that they were lying about the dangers of it, and the only conclusion that I can make is that they did it because of the political interests that were involved. What I learned through the so-called "pandemic" was that politics and it's exerted pressures can supersede people's ability to think rationally, even to the point of ignoring evidence. To Hektor's point this is remarkably similar to the Holocaust, where all it takes is a little investigation to understand that those dead bodies weren't the result of deaths due to atrocities, but of deaths due to typhus, which was particularly virulent end of the war, and primarily due to allied bombing campaigns. As trust in the establishment begins break down, then it's inevitable that faith in what we're taught will also. And I don't think any group has control over this process. It's no coincidence that my passion for revisionism began during the last couple years. The international collusion and hysteria generated over a virus with a 97% survival rate sparked it, and my guess is that it did for many others too.

[hermod]

As Lamprecht said because the survival rate of covid is high 97%


The international collusion and hysteria generated over a virus with a 97% survival rate sparked it, and my guess is that it did for many others too.

Just for accuracy, Lamprecht said 99.97%, not 97%.

a virus with a 0.03% death rate

[Lamprecht]

0.03% was based on US military figures from over a year ago. They were mass-testing people all the time, even if they weren't sick, so the infection rate was better known. Most sources claim the virus itself is asymptomatic in around 50% of cases. The death rate is going to vary a lot based on the average age of the group you're looking at. Also, since so many people exposed to the virus don't get sick at all, without indiscriminately testing everybody all the time, you'll over-inflate the risk of serious illness.



Also, the original Wuhan strain has pretty much disappeared. The CDC claims 100% of current infections are from Omicron, which is more easily spread but is generally less severe. So it's certainly not something that requires young, healthy people to "quarantine" with zero symptoms. And it certainly makes zero sense to shut down every business except big supermarkets. High-risk groups can stay at home like they've always been able to, and young healthy people can take the risks if they so choose. Going outside has always been a risk, something like 100 people die every day in the USA in car accidents but no serious person demands that all cars be banned because of it.

[karl_fallout4]

Untrue. The Soviet-Allied narrative at the Nuremberg show trials was: 4 million Jews killed in extermination camps (with all the German concentration camps portrayed as extermination camps) and 2 million Jews killed elsewhere (mainly shot on the Eastern front). The victors of WWII and the state-sponsored storytellers (aka academic/orthodox/antirevisionist/exterminationist historians) never claimed that 6 million Jews were killed in extermination camps.

That was the original claim, yes. But as the implausibility of the camps being used to exterminate such a large volume of people was brought into light, many Holocaust truthers started to rely on vague reports regarding "removal" in eastern Europe to the point where they claimed that the Einsatzgruppen (a operation-force at 3,000 members at it's greatest extent) was responsible for over 1.3 million deaths, an estimate which was never based on any solid proof. It's pretty common hearing the exceptionally brilliant argument that the existence of the Einsatzgruppen invalidates any proof regarding Auschwitz, and by doing that they are backtracking.

Some revisionist historians mentioned wooden doors only when the administrators of the Auschwitz museum and the orthodox historians refused to admit publicly that the Auschwitz 'gas chamber' was a postwar Soviet 'reconstruction' (forgery). Revisionist historians were right to point out the inconsistencies of the Auschwitz 'gas chamber' (such as the laughable wooden door with a glass) as long as the tour guides kept telling that it was a Nazi gas chamber in its original state (what was just a big lie) and the orthodox historians deliberately kept silent about that (what was a big lie by omission).

Of course, it was proof to debunk the claim that the building shown to the public was the original building, but they treat it like it was proof of the Holocaust being implausible- it was a convenient strawman. It'd be better if it was emphasized to point out their dishonesty rather than simply being stated as it is.

Who do you call "the holocaust truthers" ???

"Truther" is a perjorative for a conspiracy theorist, and those who believe that the Holocaust took place are conspiracy theorists since they deny the official German government explanation in favor of baseless rumors and forged documents.

[borjastick]

Does the OP mean infiltrate the revisionist movement and thus control it, or perhaps they can control it so that we have limited internet and media access?

[jarno]

As Lamprecht said because the survival rate of covid is high 97%


The international collusion and hysteria generated over a virus with a 97% survival rate sparked it, and my guess is that it did for many others too.

Just for accuracy, Lamprecht said 99.97%, not 97%.

a virus with a 0.03% death rate

Thank you, that is certainly a big difference!

[Merlin300]

What keeps the Holocaust going is the combination of arrogance with ignorance among Western Elites, nowadays. There is too many people benefitting from it in some way, while others are simply too stupid to grasp that they're obviously being lied to.

I agree with Hektor. While Zionists have become the major force in censorship and blacklisting of historical debate there are plenty of
US NeoCons, British and Russian nationalists, Socialists and Leftists who all support or condone suppressing Revisionism.
Even in the world of novel writing the only fully acceptable villain is the evil Nazi. Holocaust Belief is useful to too many groups.

[Hektor]

Do you even know anyone who has had Covid?

Virtually Nobody....

PCR test are not random. Somehow when people I know have Covid symptoms they also have positive test results and then negative results when no symptoms.

"In court government official - by implication - admitted that they don't have proof for their virus."

What are you even referring? And if this is true why should I think some random "government official" somehow knows about these things. And why let him tell this to the public or let alone know about this "scam"? It's dangering the evil conspiracy!

Tests don't have to be random. But there were many 'symptom'-free with positive tests.... PCR-tests were a variating measure, which renders them a tool to produce useless data. And as for symptoms... Suddenly half the diagnostics book on respiratory diseases became "COVID-Symptoms"... That alone should tell you that one doesn't deal with anything new. If running optimally, the tests can simply pick up some RNA that is common in sick people and voila, you got your "COVID case"... It's like testing for the water spirit, by showing something is wet. Well... Before any test should be considered, you'd have to have something it is testing for...e.g. demonstrate that the patient had a virus (replicating entity that causes disease). They didn't do that. They did do pseudoscientific 'isolation experiments' involving patient samples... If one reads the papers, the method part doesn't have a control experiment and there are various other issues with the set up of the experiment. It appears to be designed to get 'desired outcomes'. Now, if that's the standard for Virology then we are dealing with a pseudoscience like Astrology.

As for government official... He didn't say they don't have evidence, he just didn't have anything worth showing and the court ruled then that he doesn't have to show it to the public. Hence by implication admission to have no evidence.

That gov. officials, professionals, politicians, businesspeople do stuff and say things that are advantageous to them doesn't have anything to do with a conspiracy, it's simply common sense. Of course, if there would be a conspiracy, it would use that kind of expectable mechanism.

....And I don't think any group has control over this process. It's no coincidence that my passion for revisionism began during the last couple years. The international collusion and hysteria generated over a virus with a 97% survival rate sparked it, and my guess is that it did for many others too.

The thing is that they have never shown that any (new) Virus exist. You get plenty of papers mentioning 'SARSCOV2'.... But if you look how they know that 'it' (meaning entity that causes disease in humans), you quickly realize that their evidence is less than thin. Just apply requirements for scienticity to the respective fundamental papers and the deception becomes visible.

[Lamprecht]

Do you even know anyone who has had Covid?

Virtually Nobody....

What I've noticed lately is it's people who took the shot[s] that are claiming to be sick.

Prior to the whole "Covid-19" thing, it was widely accepted that coronaviruses have been spreading in human populations for a long time. Most of them were just classified as "the common cold" and even within months of the "pandemic" it was theorized that a lot of people were already immune to Sars-Cov-2 because of that. And beyond that, there were always going to be young, healthy people not getting sick from being exposed to the virus anyway, like we see with influenza and other low-mortality viruses.

Even if you believe in the virus being novel and accept the mortality rates that were given, there was no reason for the lockdowns/shutdowns. At-risk people could always just stay home and wear hazmat suits while young, healthy people can go to in public, expose themselves to develop herd immunity.