Vatican denied early "Holocaust" claims in 1942

[Lamprecht]

Throughout war, it is common to use "Atrocity propaganda" to rile your people against the enemy. During the WWII period, the Vatican Church were given widely circulated reports of German atrocities in the western press in 1942. They dismissed them as mostly atrocity propaganda just as some British political leaders also did at the time.

Vatican minimised Shoah reports due to antisemitism, researchers claim

According to researchers, a Papal adviser wrote in 1942 that Jews 'exaggerate' and Ukrainians were 'not an example of honesty'

Jacob Judah
May 4, 2020 09:41

German researchers working in the Apostolic Archive claim to have found evidence that the Vatican was handed reports about the extent of the Holocaust in 1942, but dismissed some of the information they contained.

The seven-person team from the University on Münster claimed that the Vatican had minimised information on the massacres of Jews, considering that Jewish and Ukrainian sources could not be trusted.

The conclusions hinge on a 1942 American démarche to the Holy See.

The team found that on September 27, 1942, the Holy See was passed a report by the American envoy to the Vatican, detailing the murder of Jews in occupied Poland and asking if the Catholic Church could independently confirm the crimes it outlined.

The report outlined how Jews were being taken out of the Warsaw Ghetto, and murdered outside of the city in camps.

The report, read by Pius XII on the day that it was received in Rome, said that 100,000 Jews had been murdered and that 50,000 had been murdered in Lviv, in what was then eastern Poland, and is now western Ukraine.

The report added that there were no Jews remaining in eastern Poland, and that Jews from Germany, Slovakia and the Low Countries had been transported to Eastern Europe where they were murdered.

The Vatican Apostolic Archives, which until October were known as the “Secret Archives”, contain up to two million pages of documents from Pius XII’s papacy. The Vatican threw open their doors, which were due to remain closed until 2028, on 1 March.

The researchers, led by priest and professor Hubert Wolf, a historian of the Catholic Church, spent a week working in the Apostolic Archive from March 2 before it was closed due to coronavirus restrictions.

Mr Wolf’s team found documents showing that the Holy See had received two letters independently confirming reports of massacres of Jews from Warsaw and Lviv.

In August 1942, it had received a letter from the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Archbishop of Lviv, Andrey Sheptysky, who wrote of 200,000 murdered. The following month, an Italian businessman spoke of “butchery” of Jews in Warsaw.

Despite these reports, the Vatican allegedly informed the American envoy that it was unable to confirm the reports.

Internally, a rationale justified that the information remained “to be verified”, in the words of a Papal adviser, as Jews “exaggerate” and that “Orientals” – referring to the Ukrainian Uniates – “are really not an example of honesty”.

http://archive.fo/fToyc or http://web.archive.org/web/202005050139 ... d-1.499437


The actual sentence from the archive was revealed by lead researcher Hubert Wolf in the interview in Kirche + Leben:

"Juden könne man ohnehin nicht trauen und ebenso wenig orientalischen Katholiken, weil sie zu Lügen und Übertreibungen neigten."
English:
"Jews cannot be trusted anyway any more than eastern Catholics, as they are inclined towards lies and exaggerations."

Source: http://archive.fo/nLIiF or http://web.archive.org/web/202004281350 ... vertuscht/

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Related links:
The Vatican During the "Holocaust"
https://codoh.com/library/document/1035/

The Hoax of the Twentieth Century: The Role of the Vatican
http://web.archive.org/web/200406290824 ... tc/17.html

Pope Pius XII in the Second World War
https://codoh.com/library/document/2452/

Pope Pius XII and the Jews
https://codoh.com/library/document/1034/

The Biggest Dog that Didn't Bark: Pius XII
viewtopic.php?t=9787

[Lamprecht]

On the German reaction to this same nonsense atrocity propaganda allegations


German reactions to Allied propaganda on the Holocaust
viewtopic.php?t=13110

[fireofice]

This is significant considering that the Pope and the Nazis were by no means friendly with each other. In fact, according to the book "Church of Spies: The Pope's Secret War Against Hitler" by Mark Riebling, the Pope even tried to have Hitler killed. So this is no friend of Hitler trying to cover his ally. Tim O'Neill (yes, that Tim O'Neill) has a good article demolishing the "Hitler's Pope" myth.

https://historyforatheists.com/2019/05/ ... lers-pope/

[stinky]

In sum, that the Vatican rejected reports as atrocity propaganda, which only proves that the Vatican knew all about the plight of the Jews, but did nothing.
It could not possibly mean that the reports were actually propaganda

[Archie]

Mr Wolf’s team found documents showing that the Holy See had received two letters independently confirming reports of massacres of Jews from Warsaw and Lviv.

LOL at "independently confirming."

This is holocaust historiography in a nutshell. They have a very low bar for what constitutes "confirmation." A report of massacres in Warsaw and another report of a massacre is Lviv do not "confirm" each other. Moreover, even if true, neither of those reports would "confirm" the reports coming out of Switzerland that said Hitler was "planning" to exterminate 3.5-4 M Jews "in one blow" or that 100,000 Jews in Warsaw had been turned into soap.

If pressed, the holocaust historians will admit that the specific claims made in these early reports are false. But they still treat such reports as "true" in some nebulous, vague sense.