R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

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R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby EtienneSC » 3 years 2 months ago (Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:06 am)

Dario Gabbai, the Krematoria Sonderkommando eyewitness famous to revisionists for his unwitting role in Auschwitz the Surprising Hidden Truth, has died. His brother or cousin tells a story about him being moved from Krema II to Krema III, so that they could work alongside each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG2D9N9SKyU
The video gives his dates as 2 September 1922 to 25 March 2020. A fate that awaits us all, sad to say, but a long life in his case at least, as he lived to 97. Sic transit gloria ebraici.

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Lamprecht » 3 years 2 months ago (Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:07 pm)

The same Sonderkommando Dario Gabbai who claimed that a "homicidal gas chamber" designed for 1,000 victims was over-packed with 2,5000; and after, since there was no room for the bodies to fall down, they remained standing? :roll:

LIewitnesses Dario Gabbai, Yakob Gabbai, Morris Venezia, and Shlomo Venezia were two pairs of brothers who were cousins of one another, all Jew prisoners Auschwitz who survived... despite them supposedly all being selected to as "Sonderkomando" to help gas/exterminate/cremate the Jews at the "Extermination camp" Auschwitz Birkenau. Dario Gabbai stated that no more than two armed German guards were present during the underground phase of the gassing operations and no more than six guards at ground level. Were there ever any revolts enacted by the doomed victims and why didn’t the Kapos lead a revolt? Sure, a revolt would ultimately be doomed to fail… or would it?

Some older threads on Gabbai: search.php?keywords=Dario+Gabbai

From the CODOH search: https://codoh.com/search/?q=Dario+Gabba ... =relevance

It may be useful to provide a summary of claims he has made about the alleged gassing operations. I haven't seen a dedicated thread on this one individual. I don't have the time now, anyone else feel free to contribute.
Here's is a summary of the mainstream story regarding his Auschwitz work from Wikipedia:
Sonderkommando work

Gabbai was taken to Crematorium II.[6] As a member of the Sonderkommando, he found himself the closest to the extermination process. He states he was one of 35 Greek men selected for the Sonderkommando and was with his cousins and brother the whole time.[7]

Gabbai's duties included helping the men, women, and children selected for gassing to get undressed, moving their dead bodies out of the gas chamber onto an electric lift which would bring them up to the ground floor where the ovens were located, and loading the bodies into the muffles. While helping those selected to get undressed, one of the Sonderkommando members' duties was to maintain the pretence that they would merely be showered. Gabbai said that there were instances where the victims knew that something was suspicious about their fate, that "something funny was going on", but nothing could be done.[8] In one instance, Gabbai recognized two of his friends from Thessaloniki, explained to them the reality of what was going to happen and told them where to stand in the gas chamber so that they would be killed as quickly as possible.[9] Gabbai heard children and their mothers crying and scratching the walls of the gas chamber as they died.[8] Once the killing was over, the ventilation system extracted the gas, and then the door would be opened. Gabbai says that:

"When they opened the door...I see these people that half an hour before were going [into the gas chamber], I see them all standing up, some black and blue from the gas. No place where to go. Dead. If I see my eyes, the only thing I see is standing up, women with children in their hands."[8]

The operation to remove the bodies would then begin. Gabbai was given a pair of scissors and ordered to cut the hair off the women. Gabbai said he wailed "Where is God?" when cutting one woman's hair, as a sound emerged from her dead lips when he placed his foot on her belly.[9] Gabbai and other Sonderkommando members would have to drag the bodies out of the gas chamber to the lift with a hooked cane.[9] Once it was empty, they would then wash down the gas chamber with water hoses, as the floor and walls would be covered in blood and excrement.[10] He would also have to turn the bodies in the muffles to ensure they burned evenly and grind up the bones that would not disintegrate from cremation.[9]
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6. Petropoulos et al (2007), p. 392
7. Bertagnoli (2007), p. 50
8. Rees (2005), p. 234
9. Pfefferman, Naomi (19 April 2001). "Job of Infinite Horror". The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles. Retrieved August 19, 2011.
10. Rees (2005), p. 234–235
Current archived version, as WIki changes: http://archive.is/ZxzDK

Wiki says he was taken to Krema II but used an electric lift. There was no such thing installed at Krema II, although it was in the plans. OP claims one of his brothers/cousins reported that he moved to Krema III. Any details on this, dates, etc? Wikipedia is notorious for distorting sources on this topic in particular.

From: viewtopic.php?t=12891
- Initial plans for Krema II and III demanded two specially designed electrical elevators with a high weight capacity, as well as one "Demag electro lift" with 750 kg capacity (doubled to 1500 with the addition of a second cable) which was to be used until the specially designed electric elevators were delivered [in 7 months]

- This "Demag electro lift" freight elevator was installed at Krema III, but not Krema II

- At Krema II, a crude makeshift elevator was installed with only 300 kg capacity
...
- On 12 May 1944 (more than 1 year after Krema II allegedly began gassings) an "urgent telegram" was sent stating: "installation of the 2 elevators cannot be done now. Installation will be done later..." So after an entire year the electrical elevators still were not installed. There is no document suggesting the Krema II elevator was ever replaced.

I would have to look more into those cited sources for dates. Remember, it is alleged Krema II had the higher death toll, despite having the manually operated corpse chute.


More of his testimony:
"Before going into the gas chamber you had to leave it [your shoes]; somebody was taking them. My first observations of that is that I saw 2,500 to 3,000 people going in the gas chamber. They closed the doors, and then I knew that the SS, through the Zyklon B, you know, from above 3 or 4 openings [released the gas]. It takes about 4 or 5 minutes to die, except the people that are in front where the gas is coming, then it takes about a couple of minutes. After that, you know, after 15-20 minutes they open up the thing [the door]. The first thing I see, I saw the people I saw 15 minutes before alive [but who are now dead]. I saw the mothers with their children standing up. Of course, the gas chamber would take maybe 500 people but was used to take 2500 people: Everybody was standing up. There was no room for anything else but standing up…Some were black and blue from the gas….And from the gas, I heard the big, “Aaaaaaawwwww.” And so I jump about 100 meters away…. "
- Dario Gabbai, Auschwitz II Birkenau Testimony Clips (26:04 — 29:19)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W3eiJHUhQ1A

Gabbai also stated:
“We had to take them they bring 1 by 1 we take them by the ears and behind him was an SS shoot him in the back and the guy would come down with a lot of blood was some of us there with the water putting down. After a while you don’t know nothing, nothing, nothing bothers you. That’s why your conscience you know gets inside of you and stays there until today you know, somebody else is inside of me that tells me from time to time you get awake what happened, why we did such a thing.
- Dario Gabbai, "Auschwitz: Inside the Nazi State" Episode #5: "Frenzied Killing" (26:50 - 27:37)
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL88DEFF046E4FCEAF
Subtitles: http://archive.vn/eDd3M or mirror



[Video] "Auschwitz the Surprising Hidden Truth" (mentioned by OP)

mirrors: https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.ph ... 05&play=96 or https://www.bitchute.com/video/C5iepaWCoMyq/ or https://archive.org/details/youtube-4O_9x_vhjcQ


[Video] "The Last Days of the Big Lie" also discusses Gabbai:

mirrors: https://bitchute.com/video/4FPm7ruNkM9c/ or https://bitchute.com/video/lBEET6W8VJ7b/ or https://archive.org/details/TheLastDays ... Lie_201904 or https://archive.org/details/TheLastDaysOfTheBigLie_786
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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Sannhet » 3 years 2 months ago (Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:52 pm)

In Dean Irrebod's Auschwitz, The Surprising Hidden Truth (2012?) documentary, purported Sonderkommando Dario Gabbai's Holocaust claims (by way of video of Gabbai's own statements made on a 1994 Holocaust documentary) are featured, discussed, and analyzed at:

1:55 to 9:55
and
13:40 to 16:45
and
18:15 to 19:55
and
24:45 to 27:15
and
34:40 to 35:35

In the last section, we learn this biographical tidbit about Mr. Gabbai:
[The 2000s- and 2010s-era Holocaust historian Laurence Rees] devotes four pages to Dario Gabbai.

Gabbai had never told his story to anyone until the 1990s. What was he doing before that?

[Cut to film clip of an actor playing a mid-20th-century soldier]

He had a brief and minor stint as an actor in a Hollywood movie called The Glory Brigade. He went from the worst profession in the world to the most glamorous one. [Clip from Gabba's acting is shown.] Eight years after his supposed job at Auschwitz.
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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Sannhet » 3 years 2 months ago (Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:02 pm)

Sannhet wrote:He had a brief and minor stint as an actor in a Hollywood movie called The Glory Brigade

Wiki editors have created a substantial wiki-entry for Dario Gabbai, which includes this:

[In the late 1940s] [Gabbai] moved to the United States under the sponsorship of the Jewish community in Cleveland, and in 1951, relocated to California.

The wiki-editor cites an Oct. 20, 1999, Los Angeles Times article called "Bearing Witness," by Beverly Beyette; checking it directly, that article also includes this:

[Gabbai] married an American woman, from whom he is divorced, and has an adult daughter. He is retired from the textile business and now works out at a gym seven days a week. It’s therapy. “When I’m sweating, everything goes away . . . my problems are over,” the memories recede.

(Notice, in passing, the editorial insertion of "the memories recede," which he did not say. What he said was the ambiguous, "my problems are over," which could mean anything. Ask any fitness enthusiast why they exercise, and you might well hear some variant of "when I exercise, my problems are over.")

I take it that Gabbai was, in full adulthood, a lifelong Southern Californian (from age 28 to death at 97). The move to California in 1951; the Hollywood role; the Los Angeles Times spotlight; and his 2020 obituary appeared at the University of Southern California Shoah Foundation.

Emigrating and resettling in California was probably a great step up in life for Gabbai. The presumable alternative was, what, hanging around a much-poorer Greece in the mid-late twentieth century through turmoil and strife; if he'd returned to Greece, no one would ever have known his name.

I presume that Gabbai retired from this textile business about the early 1990s, around the time he turned 70. It was shortly thereafter, in 1994, that he apparently told his Holocaust story for the first time, grabbing some of that fame and renown that eluded him when his 1950s Hollywood career didn't pan out.

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Vukdar » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:13 pm)

In testimony I saw on youtube he claims that they went and cut hair from these 2000 people that were gassed. I kid you not. Image how much time that would take.

Giving haircuts to dead people.

It would take them a month. :)

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Hannover » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:28 pm)

Vukdar wrote:In testimony I saw on youtube he claims that they went and cut hair from these 2000 people that were gassed. I kid you not. Imagine how much time that would take.

Giving haircuts to dead people.

It would take them a month. :)

So they cut hair that, if true, would have been saturated with deadly cyanide. :lol:

Just another example of basic science debunking the 'holocaust'.

For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11143&p=83723&hilit=model+asmarques#p83723

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:37 pm)

Hannover wrote:
Vukdar wrote:In testimony I saw on youtube he claims that they went and cut hair from these 2000 people that were gassed. I kid you not. Imagine how much time that would take.

Giving haircuts to dead people.

It would take them a month. :)

So they cut hair that, if true, would have been saturated with deadly cyanide. :lol:

That is indeed something that is claimed. From: viewtopic.php?t=12911
7) upon liberation of Auschwitz, it was discovered that the Nazis had bagged and stored 2000 kilograms of shorn human hair in the camp. How did the Nazis get all this hair, and why did an overwhelming number of samples contain traces of hydrogen cyanide?

The implication here the author is trying to make is that the Nazis gassed Jews with Zyklon-B, a pesticide that releases hydrogen cyanide, and then cut the hair off of these gassed Jews for ... some unknown reason ... before putting these gassed Jews into the ovens to be cremated.

What we know about a pile of hair is that the Nazis had a pile of hair for some reason. They would not remove the hair from gassed jews before cremating them if they had no real use for the hair. We also know that because of a massive outbreak of typhus in the camp, the Germans began using Zyklon-B -- designed to kill insects like typhus-spreading lice -- to delouse clothing and bedding. The outbreak was highest in 1942-43 but based on the Auschwitz death records, there were still hundreds of Jewish deaths per month (in some cases over 1,000) in 1944 (figures for 1945 are not available). See: viewtopic.php?p=94680#p94680

Just look at the many photographs of living prisoners from these camps and you will see a large number of them had their heads shaven. This was to protect them from the disease-spreading lice which have specifically evolved their small claws to be able to attach themselves and move around in human hair.

If the Nazis had any use for the hair, and to claim they removed it from gassed Jews would certainly imply that, they would by default fumigate the piles of hair in order to kill any disease-carrying lice that is hidden in it.

They had no problems shaving the hair of people that were alive, so I don't see why they would have shaven the hair of gassed Jews:
Image

We are told the alleged homicidal gas chambers were "disguised as shower rooms"
If they wanted to actually trick them into thinking they were having a shower for sanitation purposes, it would make sense to shave their heads prior to the shower/gassing.
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Vukdar » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:51 pm)

I presume hair was there to do some tests? Maybe on lice?

Also, you can probably find somebody saying they pulled out gold teeth (heard it) as if it was so common to even have gold in your mouth. I mean how many people did have it? Even just checking everybodys mouth would take time. Can you even open mouth of a dead person to check it, or you have to use force? You know, rigor mortis? Or they all died with open mouths? So many questions.

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Lamprecht » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:55 pm)

Vukdar wrote:I presume hair was there to do some tests? Maybe on lice?

There is a document cited in this thread: viewtopic.php?t=11464
Hair is to be made into industrial felt or spun into yarn. Woman's hair is to be used in the manufacture of hair-yarn socks for 'U'-boat crews and hair-felt foot-wear for the Reichs-railway.

It is therefore ordered that the hair of female prisoners be disinfected and stored.

The document may very well be fake. But if the hair was there it was there for a reason, I am not too worried about it. There are hundreds of pictures of concentration camp inmates with shaven heads, so we know that prisoners had their heads shaven and then were not killed. If you do some more digging and find answers then I suggest you make a new thread about the uses for human hair during WWII.
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: R.I.P. Dario Gabbai (2 Sep 1922 - 25 Mar 2020)

Postby Zulu » 2 years 3 months ago (Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:12 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:More of his testimony:
"Before going into the gas chamber you had to leave it [your shoes]; somebody was taking them. My first observations of that is that I saw 2,500 to 3,000 people going in the gas chamber. They closed the doors, and then I knew that the SS, through the Zyklon B, you know, from above 3 or 4 openings [released the gas]. It takes about 4 or 5 minutes to die, except the people that are in front where the gas is coming, then it takes about a couple of minutes. After that, you know, after 15-20 minutes they open up the thing [the door]. The first thing I see, I saw the people I saw 15 minutes before alive [but who are now dead]. I saw the mothers with their children standing up. Of course, the gas chamber would take maybe 500 people but was used to take 2500 people: Everybody was standing up. There was no room for anything else but standing up…Some were black and blue from the gas….And from the gas, I heard the big, “Aaaaaaawwwww.” And so I jump about 100 meters away…. "
- Dario Gabbai, Auschwitz II Birkenau Testimony Clips (26:04 — 29:19)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W3eiJHUhQ1A


Gabbai started to tell his "story" only after 1990. So, he was not able to be called to stand as an "eyewitness" at one of the Zundel trials.
I guess he would have been a good client for the tandem Faurisson-Christy, Another guy who would have alleged some "poetic license" like the liar Vrba in order to explain all the flaws of his nonsense narrative.


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