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Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Atigun » 1 year 2 months ago (Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:05 pm)

"A Year in Treblinka" at:
zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
has been taken down and is no longer available. Seems to be across the board with multiple search engines and browsers. Anyone know of an alternate site or have a pdf of his book? If you have a pdf could you please post it? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Otium » 1 year 2 months ago (Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:00 am)


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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Atigun » 1 year 2 months ago (Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:06 am)

Mr. Otium, thank you, sir. Your expertise with a computer is admirable. Mine is abysmal.

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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Goethe » 1 year 2 months ago (Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:59 pm)

Here's a summary of the pathetic lies of Wiernik.

'Holocaust Industy's' Roberto Muehlenkamp cites Yankel Wiernik as proof of extermination of 900,000 Jews at Treblinka !!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11271
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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby greatmystery » 1 year 2 months ago (Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:10 pm)

I noticed this too. I was making myself important by thinking that it was my doing for using that site a lot for a writing project. I also posted the link many times on Gab, pointing out the more absurd claims by old Yankel. It's funny because the site has been around since 2002. I do wonder why it suddenly disappeared.

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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Atigun » 1 year 2 months ago (Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:33 am)

Goethe wrote:Here's a summary of the pathetic lies of Wiernik.

'Holocaust Industy's' Roberto Muehlenkamp cites Yankel Wiernik as proof of extermination of 900,000 Jews at Treblinka !!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11271


Just reread that thread, Goethe, and have a new takeaway. Roberto seems to be claiming that Wiernik was traumatized to the point of irrationality but we should pick through his insanity for the gems of truth. Namely because others have told the same story, that Jews were gassed, buried, exhumed, cremated and their cremains reburied. The problem with that is the tales from the other alleged witnesses all contain impossibilities that are similar to Wiernik's.

As I said before, I can't understand why a rational person would accept such fantasies as being the truth.

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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby greatmystery » 1 year 2 months ago (Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:57 pm)

Goethe wrote:Here's a summary of the pathetic lies of Wiernik.

'Holocaust Industy's' Roberto Muehlenkamp cites Yankel Wiernik as proof of extermination of 900,000 Jews at Treblinka !!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11271


That was a fun thread. I noticed that no one mentioned the bit about thwarting the Ukrainians during the escape with gold coins.

"We knew that gold held an immense attraction for them, and they had been doing business with the Jews all the time. So, when the shot rang out, one of the Jews sneaked up to the tower and showed the Ukrainian guard a gold coin. The Ukrainian completely forgot that he was on guard duty. He dropped his machine gun and hastily clambered down to pry the piece of gold from the Jew. They grabbed him, finished him off and took his revolver. The guards in the other towers were also dispatched quickly."

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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Otium » 1 year 2 months ago (Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:55 am)

Atigun wrote:Just reread that thread, Goethe, and have a new takeaway. Roberto seems to be claiming that Wiernik was traumatized to the point of irrationality but we should pick through his insanity for the gems of truth. Namely because others have told the same story, that Jews were gassed, buried, exhumed, cremated and their cremains reburied. The problem with that is the tales from the other alleged witnesses all contain impossibilities that are similar to Wiernik's.


Clearly Roberto doesn't have a law degree and hasn't even watched any court room lawyer movies, because even the most inexperienced person will tell you logically that someone who lies or gets facts wrong consistently is deemed an "unreliable witness" whose testimony to the truth cannot be used as evidence. This is obvious, if you can't accurately and consistently render your "experiences" then your experiences are inadmissible.

If Wiernik is irrational, traumatized, and simply wrong on many things to the point where he's freely inventing "facts" then it's more reasonable to assume he lied about everything. It's a kind of circular reasoning, where Roberto thinks Wiernik is "reliable" for the facts he wishes to accept because other Jews, equally irrational and traumatized claimed the same thing. When in reality the trauma and irrationality may have been real symptoms but not, as Roberto presumes, due to experiences of a "real" extermination program, but due to the rumours of such a program in which events are interpreted to confirm these irrational fears. It becomes circular when like Roberto you have to presuppose the existence of an "extermination program" to first inflict the trauma that gets the "ball rolling".

I'm sure if anyone was forced to move en masse from their homes, and their future was uncertain particularly during the peril of a major war anyone would become traumatized, particularly when there are rumours and wartime propaganda making it seem like your life is in constant peril. This, not some fictional "Holocaust" is likely the origin for the nonsense written by Wiernik, not some jumble of fact and fiction.

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Re: Wiernik's "A Year in Treblinka" taken down.

Postby Hektor » 1 year 2 months ago (Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:03 am)

Otium wrote:
Atigun wrote:Just reread that thread, Goethe, and have a new takeaway. Roberto seems to be claiming that Wiernik was traumatized to the point of irrationality but we should pick through his insanity for the gems of truth. Namely because others have told the same story, that Jews were gassed, buried, exhumed, cremated and their cremains reburied. The problem with that is the tales from the other alleged witnesses all contain impossibilities that are similar to Wiernik's.


Clearly Roberto doesn't have a law degree and hasn't even watched any court room lawyer movies, because even the most inexperienced person will tell you logically that someone who lies or gets facts wrong consistently is deemed an "unreliable witness" whose testimony to the truth cannot be used as evidence. This is obvious, if you can't accurately and consistently render your "experiences" then your experiences are inadmissible. ....

They don't care, what counts for Roberto and his ilk, is the effect. And there he can't backpedal on testimony that is obviously preposterous and unreliable. What do they have anyway. No corpses, no murder weapon.... So all they got to rely on is testimony including obviously unreliable, even malicious witnesses. That's why they like to parade the "perpetrator confessions"... Which also turn out to be false, but they don't care. The Holocaust is a Holy Cause to them and must be true, so if that's true, it's Ok, if the testimony isn't exactly flawless. To justify a crusade pious frauds seem to be in order.

What gets ignored as well is of course the pesky little fact that the vast majority of potential witnesses didn't know anything or only heard rumors at best. So know, a reasonable person has to conclude from all available facts that the Holocaust is merely a propaganda hoax. One that does however a myriad of parties interested in it. Jews for obvious reasons. The Allies in general, but especially the Soviets needed a distraction and justification. The Communists/left found it more than convenient to bash their opponents/competitors (The "fascists" with it). I noticed that those pushing the issue the more had links to the Communist party or their front organizations. The Jewish organizations, merely presumed it and staged "memory of the innocent victim" and it serves as a 'binding together' (a religion) in a secularized world as it is at least upfront acceptable as Myth for atheists/agnostics as well. Meanwhile most of civil society in Western countries has bought into it, and it has become a thought terminating cliché. Most folks find it even difficult to consider that so many people have been lied to big time for so long. It's the monstrosity of this lie that keeps it going. One trick is of course that this civil religion is being sold as 'serious history'. So when "all serious historians" do proclaim it, with non doubting it, it must be true, right? Well, after all it's only the intelligent, educated, sophisticated people that can see the emperors new cloths.


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