Best books on Holocaust Revisionism

[JohnnieDarko]

Hello fellow members of the forum!

I tried the search function for a similar thread but I couldn't find it between so many threads so pardon me if this comes out as a repeated topic.

First of all I want to introduce myself, I'm from Portugal and I've finish my master's degree in modern history last year and I'm a ww2 enthusiast. I'm currently writing a book about Salazar, the Portuguese dictator, and his role in ww2. My great grandfather was part of Salazar Regime, Estado Novo, and he was one of the few Portuguese to receive the Order of Merit of the German Eagle 2nd class and he personally knew Ribbentrop. After the fascism ended in Portugal in April of 74 my family had several problems and they moved to Spain returning in the 90's. With all this history running in my family I was fascinated by ww2, I have a personal library of hundreds of books about ww2, battles, personalities, the Holocaust etc etc and I'm a German ww2 militaria collector, I've been called Nazi many times but that's far from the truth I'm just a ww2 enthusiast and I love learning and collecting.

That being said let's get on the Holocaust thing, the elephant in the room. As newcomer historian I try to read from the most possible sources I can to make my own opinion and I don't like to be manipulated and unfortunately many historians fall victims of the propaganda. But I like to read every opinion, for example in my university my teachers "prohibited" reading anything by David Irving, they would say don't waste time reading nonsense, well I got all of his books and I made my own opinion. David Irving sometimes takes it too far in some statements but I think he's one of the most reliable source of third Reich personalities and he adds a lot of value to knowing a lot of omitted stuff. So let's talk about mainstream Holocaust literature, I can say I've read about everything, including testemonial books of survivors etc but I find some details of these stories to be kind of fabricated and to fit a narrative, even the liberation of the camps I found odd some of the details versus the what they say that was happening in these. Primo Levi for example we was leff in the hospital in Auschwitz and it didn't made any sense, if in Auschwitz they execute people who cannot work why would they even have a hospital, and i cant quite remember but there was about 900 people left in Auschwitz, that's a lot of unnecessary people to keep in if that was a death camp, so most of mainstream Holocaust books I think they just recycling the stories told by the winners after the war.

My point of view is sure that was a persecution of the jews, not a extermination plan, I belive concentration camps were just that and a lot of prisoners died of diseases, malnutrition, work, etc. I also belive some units may have executed summary executions but it was not a procedure, and digging into crimes of war every nation that participated in ww2 committed then. I don't belive at all in the definition of a death camp and gas chambers and a lot of information about them is not coherent.

I've read a couple os books from Carlo Mattogno and a lot of the information is really interesting, he makes good points, but sometimes is more interpretation than facts, although I find them to be very convincing and that raise a lot of good questions. So obviously Holocaust revisionism books are not well received in the community but I would like to dive more into this subject, so can you please recommend me some good books? And maybe some good threads in here, even though I'm more interested in books I also like to read some points of view in general, I've read a couple of post and I found very interesting opinions.

Sorry for the long post,
Best Regards to you all.

Joao

[Moderator]

For starters look here:
'Holocaust' Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

Welcome, M1

[Hektor]

Welcome to the Forum Johnnie,

Not sure what your knowledge of the German language is as this would enable you to read documents first hand.

Concerning books on Holocaust Revisionism I'd understand that in several ways.
1 Books about Holocaust Revisionists and Revisionism as a movement among researchers, publishers and historians as well as the reactions by exterminationists and the public in general.
2. a) Books examining Axis policy on Jews in general.
2. b) Books examining details of such policies with special attention given to specific details or e.g. camps, locations, units. E.g. the alleged gas chambers in Auschwitz.

For a broad general introduction "Dissecting the Holocaust" would be a good start. It covers a lot of details. And also gets to the core issue "mass extermination of Jews by homicidal gassings".

[JohnnieDarko]

Thank you for both responses. I already had check the list presented by Castle Hill Publishers, I already have a few of those but I would like to get off a little bit of that spectrum, like I've said in my first post i've read a couple of Books by Carlo Mattogno and while it gives value information there's a lot of repetitive narration, the 4 or 5 books I have read could really be condensed in 1, and from I can tell, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the Castle Hill Publishers holds the principal group of authors of Holocaust Revesionism, I'm also interested in finding more authors, if there are any, that question the same.

Hektor I will take you suggestion as my next reading, unfortunately I didn't yet read anything by Germar Rudolf yet, he was in my list so I will get into it.

I'm really interested in books with German testemonials, and not the kind of commandant of Auschwitz that was heavily edited or even written by Rudolf Höss. If anyone can point me in that direction.

I really think this revisionism should have started in the 50/60's and I wish historians been more brave and bold, and should went for the German testemonials in detail of the people that worked in these camps and participated in some matter in this subject because now it's harder get some facts straight, and the Holocaust narrative have been pushed for so long that's even a crime to speak on it freely, I find this hypocritical and of bad taste when we have testemonials of supposed victims who were 2, 3, 4 years old when these action supposedly happen yet their descriptions get in so many details and vivid memories that I can't belive one word they saying. And I don't want to talk in a bad matter of this topic but the truth is before the war almost every nation hated the jews, it was not a thing exclusive to the Germans, the French for example had the same hatred, and even before the war started most of the nations refuse to take in the jews, and that's a historical fact. After the war there was a exploitation by the jews of the Holocaust, and by saying that I'm not trying to diminish they suffering because a lot of them really suffered, but they saw a opportunity to jump in the bandwagon created by the allies, and suddenly everyone love jews, I get why they did that but history should not be biased.

I will give you first hand information I know for certain, Salazar, Portugal dictator, he did not like Hitler very much, he didnt no share some of his ideas and thought of him of being a little too much, and he also despise the war because it would left Europe in ruins as it did. Salazar played off as one of the smartest leaders in ww2, Portugal was neutral, he didn't want the country to go to war, but at the same time he helped the allies and helped Hitler, Ribbentrop had in him and high consideration because he was bluntly honest, Salazar was a fascist but Portugal being a coastal country he also knew the dangers of going against the allies, so his only intentions were to preserve the country. But he had some really good relationships with Germans, and they were always welcomed in Portugal. And I know for a fact that after the war they didn't believe all of this Holocaust by bullets and gas chambers, Salazar comments were simply Propaganda, they are going to tear down the Germans. And that's what happened.

[hermod]

The book linked below is also a good one on the Holocaust.

The Giant With Feet Of Clay
by Jürgen Graf
https://archive.org/details/the-giant-w ... b.org.epub

I'm really interested in books with German testemonials, and not the kind of commandant of Auschwitz that was heavily edited or even written by Rudolf Höss. If anyone can point me in that direction.

The 3 Germans acquitted at the main Nuremberg 'trial' wrote their memoirs after WWII. But those books are of no use as far as the 'Holocaust' is concerned because the 3 guys had been turned into Holocaust believers at Nuremberg. Hans Fritzsche candidly wrote in his book The Sword in The Scales that the Allied horror movie screened on the 8th day of the 'trial' and the 'confessions' of alleged perpetrators such as Hoess and Ohlendorf had proved the 'Holocaust'.

The Sword In The Scales
by Hans Fritzsche
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dl ... 0/mode/2up

The Magic Of Money
by Hjalmar Schacht
https://archive.org/details/schacht-hja ... c-of-money

Franz Von Papen Memoirs
translated by Brian Connell
https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.241414

[JohnnieDarko]

The book linked below is also a good one on the Holocaust.

The Giant With Feet Of Clay
by Jürgen Graf
https://archive.org/details/the-giant-w ... b.org.epub

I'm really interested in books with German testemonials, and not the kind of commandant of Auschwitz that was heavily edited or even written by Rudolf Höss. If anyone can point me in that direction.

The 3 Germans acquitted at the main Nuremberg 'trial' wrote their memoirs after WWII. But those books are of no use as far as the 'Holocaust' is concerned because the 3 guys had been turned into Holocaust believers at Nuremberg. Hans Fritzsche candidly wrote in his book The Sword in The Scales that the Allied horror movie screened on the 8th day of the 'trial' and the 'confessions' of alleged perpetrators such as Hoess and Ohlendorf had proved the 'Holocaust'.

The Sword In The Scales
by Hans Fritzsche
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dl ... 0/mode/2up

The Magic Of Money
by Hjalmar Schacht
https://archive.org/details/schacht-hja ... c-of-money

Franz Von Papen Memoirs
translated by Brian Connell
https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.241414

Thanks for the recommendations, the giant with the feet of clay and the magic of money I have not read, the other too I've read, and I agree with you, Memoirs books are not very reliable when the writters already took a stand on the subject and it's a shame. Because of all people Albert Speer would be one of the best sources, and even though he provided some interesting information on the third reich he always played the good German apologetic in this circus show, I think he could provide himself at least some information that could challenge the Holocaust, but he as also a smart man and he knew that cause were dead in the nuremberg trials.

When i said german testemonials I'm looking more for books that contain interviews with soldiers that contest what happened and explaining some stuff and offer their rebuttal, I know that's probably hard to find but there must been some written testemonials.

[hermod]

Thanks for the recommendations, the giant with the feet of clay and the magic of money I have not read, the other too I've read, and I agree with you, Memoirs books are not very reliable when the writters already took a stand on the subject and it's a shame. Because of all people Albert Speer would be one of the best sources, and even though he provided some interesting information on the third reich he always played the good German apologetic in this circus show, I think he could provide himself at least some information that could challenge the Holocaust, but he as also a smart man and he knew that cause were dead in the nuremberg trials.

The Speer defense strategy was despicable but also very efficient.

Speer certainly had information that could challenge the Holocaust. As the German Minister of Armaments and War Production during most of World War II, he was in charge of many forced laborers and so knew a great deal about the German concentration camps during the war. If the 'Holocaust' was true, he should have been executed. But he finally escaped the Soviet-Allied gallows as a reward for his servile (but helpful) collaboration in the anti-Nazi show trials held by the victors of WWII.

When i said german testemonials I'm looking more for books that contain interviews with soldiers that contest what happened and explaining some stuff and offer their rebuttal, I know that's probably hard to find but there must been some written testemonials.

Have a look at these threads...

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[JohnnieDarko]

The Speer defense strategy was despicable but also very efficient.

Speer certainly had information that could challenge the Holocaust. As the German Minister of Armaments and War Production during most of World War II, he was in charge of many forced laborers and so knew a great deal about the German concentration camps during the war. If the 'Holocaust' was true, he should have been executed. But he finally escaped the Soviet-Allied gallows as a reward for his servile (but helpful) collaboration in the anti-Nazi show trials held by the victors of WWII.

Albert Speer was extremely intelligent and knew right way how to escape the hangman. He put on a brilliant performance and he also knew how the others would react in the trials, so he came out as the one who was apologetic and turned on Hitler, he know the others wouldn't play that game, but he did and he saved his life. Despicable but brilliant since he was far worst involved in the late regime than most of them in the stand.

Thanks for the links of the thread I will dive into them!

[hermod]

Albert Speer was extremely intelligent and knew right way how to escape the hangman. He put on a brilliant performance and he also knew how the others would react in the trials, so he came out as the one who was apologetic and turned on Hitler, he know the others wouldn't play that game, but he did and he saved his life. Despicable but brilliant since he was far worst involved in the late regime than most of them in the stand.

If memory serves me right, he even made up a ludicrous story claiming that he had tried to murder Hitler with poison gas!!

[JohnnieDarko]

If memory serves me right, he even made up a ludicrous story claiming that he had tried to murder Hitler with poison gas!!

ahah yes he did in fact had his own plot to assassinate hitler, he was just missing a ladder He stated that not only he would kill Hitler but the other top nazis at a conference. He said what they wanted to ear and denounced Hitler. The Nero Decree also was a good escape for him that was really strategized, at the end he knew very well what was going to happen. I think he was one of the most intelligent men on the Third Reich and his action showed, he even got way with his stolen art that he sold years later for a enormous profit and he lived a good life after Spandau.

[hermod]

If memory serves me right, he even made up a ludicrous story claiming that he had tried to murder Hitler with poison gas!!

ahah yes he did in fact had his own plot to assassinate hitler, he was just missing a ladder

It seems that Herr Speer had been very inspired by the fanciful stories told by so-called Holocaust survivors.

The missing ladder episode sounds much like the far-fetched anecdotes made up by most Holohoax storytellers to explain why they were not gassed. I often wonder if they don't add laughable details on purpose only to test the limits of Gentile gullibility and to show us that they regard us as dumb beasts.

[JohnnieDarko]

It seems that Herr Speer had been very inspired by the fanciful stories told by so-called Holocaust survivors.

The missing ladder episode sounds much like the far-fetched anecdotes made up by most Holohoax storytellers to explain why they were not gassed. I often wonder if they don't add laughable details on purpose only to test the limits of Gentile gullibility and to show us that they regard us as dumb beasts.

You touched on a serious topic, I have a theory about those types of details, it's like a psychology simple thing, you tell a lie if you fill that lie with a bunch of serious details that sort of commitment makes the lie fall of part, but if you throw in the mix a stupid detail like "I didn't find any ladder to reach the vent to drop the poison" it confuses logical thought and the others might think oh this must be true or else he would invent something better. Same with some of the Holocaust stories.

[Archie]

For a one volume introduction, I'd say Thomas Dalton's Debating the Holocaust is probably the best. It well-organized, comprehensive, and up-to-date, and provides a very good starting point for further study.

I would also recommend Samuel Crowell's The Gas Chamber of Sherlock Holmes, especially part one which traces the origins of the legendary gas chambers. (The other parts deal mostly with Crowell's bomb shelter thesis but this is more of a specialized topic and you need to be familiar with Jean-Claude Pressac's work to appreciate it). The Hoax of the Twentieth Century by Arthur Butz is rather dated but still worthwhile.

You might also start looking at Nuremberg/IMT/NMT. You can of course just start reading the IMT volumes directly, but I'd recommend getting a book or two to provide some context. You might take a look at Mark Turley's From Nuremberg to Nineveh which gives a concise summary of the case of all of the defendants. I'm also a fan of Carlos Porter's Made in Russia, although it's not really a traditional book. It's essentially a collection of a few hundred selected pages of the most absurd and ridiculous stuff from the IMT volumes accompanied by Porter's sarcastic commentary. While it's by no means a comprehensive overview, in its own way it's a very good (and hilarious) introduction to the war crimes trials, especially when paired with a more standard presentation like the Turley book.

[JohnnieDarko]

For a one volume introduction, I'd say Thomas Dalton's Debating the Holocaust is probably the best. It well-organized, comprehensive, and up-to-date, and provides a very good starting point for further study.

I would also recommend Samuel Crowell's The Gas Chamber of Sherlock Holmes, especially part one which traces the origins of the legendary gas chambers. (The other parts deal mostly with Crowell's bomb shelter thesis but this is more of a specialized topic and you need to be familiar with Jean-Claude Pressac's work to appreciate it). The Hoax of the Twentieth Century by Arthur Butz is rather dated but still worthwhile.

You might also start looking at Nuremberg/IMT/NMT. You can of course just start reading the IMT volumes directly, but I'd recommend getting a book or two to provide some context. You might take a look at Mark Turley's From Nuremberg to Nineveh which gives a concise summary of the case of all of the defendants. I'm also a fan of Carlos Porter's Made in Russia, although it's not really a traditional book. It's essentially a collection of a few hundred selected pages of the most absurd and ridiculous stuff from the IMT volumes accompanied by Porter's sarcastic commentary. While it's by no means a comprehensive overview, in its own way it's a very good (and hilarious) introduction to the war crimes trials, especially when paired with a more standard presentation like the Turley book.

Thank you for your suggestions, I will definitely check them out!

[Mortimer]

JohnnieDarko - Carlos Porter has also written Not Guilty At Nuremberg The German Defense Case which is a summary of charges against the defendants and also explains the biased nature of the trials.
In Portuguese -
http://www.cwporter.com/ngport.htm

In English -
http://www.cwporter.com/innocent.htm