I've been listening to a podcast called "The Rest is History" by Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook. There are interesting episodes on history there. Some of the ones I just came across are 2 episodes called "The Man Who Escaped Auschwitz" and "The Shadow of the Holocaust".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_ug5phTHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yizr0uOvz8U
In these episodes, they interview a guy named Jonathan Freedland who wrote a book called The Escape Artist: The Man Who Broke Out of Auschwitz to Warn the World.
https://www.amazon.com/Escape-Artist-Br ... 09QGSNB53/
The book and podcast episodes are focused on Rudolf Vrba, his escape, and the report he ended up writing. Anyone familiar with the revisionist literature will know about Vrba and his report and know that it has been addressed elsewhere. Vrba also testified at the Zundel trial.
In the first episode, it is claimed that the holocaust was a very secret operation that hardly anyone knew about until this report came out. By their own admission, this is the first main "witness" to these events. There were news stories before this, but apparently no one that could be pointed to as a witness to homicidal gas chambers until this report. If I am wrong about that, then please correct me, but that's the impression I got from the episode. As is known, there are many problems with this "report" that has been pointed out by Arthur Butz, Carlo Mattogno, and others.
In the second episode, they say that many high up officials were disbelieving what the report said. That it was a report by hysterical Jews, ect. Horthy apparently became concerned about being tried with aiding genocide that he stopped some trainloads of Jews being sent to Auschwitz. I haven't been able to verify how true that story is though. I guess I'll have to read the book to try and get more info.
"The Rest is History" Podcast on the Holocaust
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fireofice wrote:....
The book and podcast episodes are focused on Rudolf Vrba, his escape, and the report he ended up writing. Anyone familiar with the revisionist literature will know about Vrba and his report and know that it has been addressed elsewhere. Vrba also testified at the Zundel trial.
In the first episode, it is claimed that the holocaust was a very secret operation that hardly anyone knew about until this report came out. By their own admission, this is the first main "witness" to these events. There were news stories before this, but apparently no one that could be pointed to as a witness to homicidal gas chambers until this report. If I am wrong about that, then please correct me, but that's the impression I got from the episode. As is known, there are many problems with this "report" that has been pointed out by Arthur Butz, Carlo Mattogno, and others.
If VRBA was the first witness, what were the news-articles released prior to this at least from 1942 onwards based on?
If they can't even point to witnesses, this suggests that the content of the articles and press releases were made up. But based on what and for what purpose?
If it isn't based on reliable intelligence, then the writing of those statements was motivated by malice, logically by the enemies of Germany and to make people believe that there is something sinister behind the deportations.
And obviously the deportations and internment is not what the term 'Holocaust' tries to convey as thesis.
Re: "The Rest is History" Podcast on the Holocaust
All good conspiracy theories have a witness or a few witnesses spilling the beans about them. You could as well substitute flying saucers for gas chambers and Area 51 for Auschwitz and find similar stories with the very same testimonial "proofs"... 
As Hektor said, the alleged top secret Holocaust was out more than two years before the Vbra-Wetzler "report" was published (November 1944). In June 1942, the London Daily Telegraph had rehashed a 1916 "report" about the mass slaughter of civilians in homicidal gas chambers. And in November 1942, the co-founder of American Zionism had told the world that Hitler had ordered the annihilation of the Jewish people and that he was mass killing Jews with air bubbles and turning Jewish corpses into soap and fertilizer. Each time, it was claimed that witnesses had revelead the story.
As Hektor said, the alleged top secret Holocaust was out more than two years before the Vbra-Wetzler "report" was published (November 1944). In June 1942, the London Daily Telegraph had rehashed a 1916 "report" about the mass slaughter of civilians in homicidal gas chambers. And in November 1942, the co-founder of American Zionism had told the world that Hitler had ordered the annihilation of the Jewish people and that he was mass killing Jews with air bubbles and turning Jewish corpses into soap and fertilizer. Each time, it was claimed that witnesses had revelead the story.
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed. "
Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed. "
Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925
Re: "The Rest is History" Podcast on the Holocaust
fireofice wrote:In the first episode, it is claimed that the holocaust was a very secret operation that hardly anyone knew about until this report came out. By their own admission, this is the first main "witness" to these events. There were news stories before this, but apparently no one that could be pointed to as a witness to homicidal gas chambers until this report. If I am wrong about that, then please correct me, but that's the impression I got from the episode. As is known, there are many problems with this "report" that has been pointed out by Arthur Butz, Carlo Mattogno, and others.
Amazingly, although there were reports on the other camps in 1942, Auschwitz was not central in the propaganda until 1944 (a few months into the occupation of Hungary). Then all the sudden they're saying 1.7M Jews had died at the camp and that the Hungarian Jews must be getting gassed as well. In the establishment histories, the early version of the Vrba-Wetzler report, a summarized version of which was out in July 1944, has been cited as the point at which the world "knew" about Auschwitz.
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There were some Polish underground reports about Auschwitz from earlier but these had no apparent influence whatsoever. They are highly contradictory and only a few elements here and there match up with the current story.
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Virtually none of the wartime reports came from identifiable people. Almost all of it was anonymous with some people acquiring identities later. Vrba was not identified with the report until the late 1950s. Jankel Wiernik published his memoir under his own name in 1944, but that was atypical.
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Re: "The Rest is History" Podcast on the Holocaust
Vrba has been evaluated in my revisionist works. You should always check the Holocaust Handbooks, chances are whatever question you have has been addressed there. It's not a matter of being resourceful, but of looking in the most logical place first.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 41:
Carlo Mattogno: The Making of the Auschwitz Myth— Auschwitz in British Intercepts, Polish Underground Reports and Postwar Testimonies (1941-1947). On the Genesis and Development of the Gas-Chamber Lore.
2nd edition
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/41-tmotam.pdf
Vrba is addressed in section 2.4. pgs. 217 ff.
In sections 5.2. pgs. 425 ff. and 5.3. pgs. 432 ff.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 44:
Carlo Mattogno: Sonderkommando Auschwitz I—Nine Eyewitness Testimonies Analyzed
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/44-sai.pdf
Vrba's trial testimony is discussed on pgs. 88 ff.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 36:
Jürgen Graf: Auschwitz: Eyewitness Reports and Perpetrator Confessions of the Holocaust—30 Gas-Chamber Witnesses Scrutinized
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/36-aerapcoth.pdf
Vrba is addressed in section 2.2. pgs. 102 ff.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 7:
Arthur R. Butz: The Hoax of the Twentieth Century—The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry
4th, corrected and expanded edition
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/07-thottc.pdf
Vrba is addressed on pgs. 135 ff. pgs. 203-205.
Vrba is also addressed in the following article:
Carlo Mattogno, "Auschwitz—60 Jahre Propaganda: Die Gaskammern: Ursprung, Entwicklung und Verfall einer Propagandalüge", Vierteljahreshefte für freie Geschichtsforschung, 9(2) (2005), pp. 167-187.
Link: http://vho.org/VffG/2005/2/Mattogno167-187.html Archive: https://archive.fo/hBGIy
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 41:
Carlo Mattogno: The Making of the Auschwitz Myth— Auschwitz in British Intercepts, Polish Underground Reports and Postwar Testimonies (1941-1947). On the Genesis and Development of the Gas-Chamber Lore.
2nd edition
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/41-tmotam.pdf
Vrba is addressed in section 2.4. pgs. 217 ff.
In sections 5.2. pgs. 425 ff. and 5.3. pgs. 432 ff.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 44:
Carlo Mattogno: Sonderkommando Auschwitz I—Nine Eyewitness Testimonies Analyzed
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/44-sai.pdf
Vrba's trial testimony is discussed on pgs. 88 ff.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 36:
Jürgen Graf: Auschwitz: Eyewitness Reports and Perpetrator Confessions of the Holocaust—30 Gas-Chamber Witnesses Scrutinized
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/36-aerapcoth.pdf
Vrba is addressed in section 2.2. pgs. 102 ff.
Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 7:
Arthur R. Butz: The Hoax of the Twentieth Century—The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry
4th, corrected and expanded edition
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/07-thottc.pdf
Vrba is addressed on pgs. 135 ff. pgs. 203-205.
Vrba is also addressed in the following article:
Carlo Mattogno, "Auschwitz—60 Jahre Propaganda: Die Gaskammern: Ursprung, Entwicklung und Verfall einer Propagandalüge", Vierteljahreshefte für freie Geschichtsforschung, 9(2) (2005), pp. 167-187.
Link: http://vho.org/VffG/2005/2/Mattogno167-187.html Archive: https://archive.fo/hBGIy
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