The "Nazi Paul Schaefer"

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The "Nazi Paul Schaefer"

Postby Peter H » 1 decade 8 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:00 am)

You must have seen the headlines "Former Nazi captured in Argentina faces child sex charges", "Former German Nazi pedophile captured in Argentina", "Nazi fugitive Paul Schaefer"...

Paul Schäfer was NEVER a "nazi". As millions of germans, he was called in to serve the army during the war, and Paul Schäfer served as a MEDIC in the Luftwaffe. Nothing else. In the media it seems like he was a high ranked political person.

He was NEVER wanted for war crimes as the "nazi fugitive" headline sounds like. Instead, after the war he was the head of a home for children that had lost their parents. When he was charged for sexual abuse of two boys, he fled with his religious sect to Chile.

Some articles claims that the sect dressed in "uniforms from the 30's". This is also a lie. As the founders of the sect, Colonia Dignidad, were germans, and the sect was similar to the Amish in some ways, many of the members dressed in folkdresses, like dirndl and lederhosen. Not very much like uniforms, huh?

Paul Schäfer is a homosexual pedophile, and a religious moron. If he started his sect during the Hitler period, he would have been sent to a Concentration camp. If he committed sex crimes during his period as a medic in the german Air Force, he would have been sentenced to die by firering squad.

There's nothing "nazi" about Paul Schäfer, his sect or his crimes. Period.

Maybe this is a little off topic, but this is how the media distorts the truth.

Sorry for my bad english.

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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 8 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:32 am)

Peter H adds on -

'Maybe this is a little off topic, but this is how the media distorts the truth.

Sorry for my bad english.'


No reason to be sorry. It was well written and it's right on topic. How the U.S. media reports on things to favor the Jewish agenda. Thanks for the review.

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Postby Ajax » 1 decade 8 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:56 am)

Agreed, no reason to be sorry Peter. Your comments were well on the mark, and reflected my thoughts on the issue when I read about the fact that Schaefer was nothing more than a corporal in the medical corps - and a paedophile just like any other paedophile. (Though we should watch out for those silly people who might use the fact that he was a corporal to suggest that 'Hitler was a corporal, and...'

It's just another Jewish media scam - they'd use the word 'Nazi' to sell kosher products, if desperation required it.
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Postby gasto » 1 decade 8 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:40 am)

Ajax wrote:It's just another Jewish media scam - they'd use the word 'Nazi' to sell kosher products, if desperation required it.


yes...everyone here in argentina is speaking about Schaefer....actually, they give a damn if he was pedophile, homosexual, etc....but then, when they heard "he was a nazi", mhmh, he must have been a bad guy :roll:

it´s a shame to see our newspapers headlines with things like "former nazi" or "nazi fugitive"...
If Human Soap rumour was fake, why can´t all the other absurd claims be too??

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 8 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:20 pm)

For the judeo-supremacist media to single out others is a form of projection. If the media would identify the number of Zionists, Israelis, judeo-supremacists involved in crime, it would be an endless list.

Imagine the reaction:

'Israelis responsible for much of the drug traffic',
or 'Zionists enaged in prostitution/slavery rings',
or 'Violent Zionist judeo-supremacists enaged in ethnic cleansing',
or 'Racist Israeli judeo-supremacists have Jews only immigration policy'.

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Postby Juan » 1 decade 8 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:11 pm)

The sect was persecuted in Chile because of involvement with the ("fascist") Pinochet dictatorship. It's speculated that some officials at Colonia Dignidad collaborated with Pinochet's anti-communist DINA (Military Intelligence), regretfully, "dissapearing" and imprisoning people.

To hell with that degenerate sect leader, but I've been at their restaurant near Bulnes, and the people are wonderful (and the food is superb). Too bad all their good work (mainly educating children and running an hospital for the poor peasants of the Parral zone) were tainted by Schaeffer's immoral behavior.

As an anecdote, it's funny to sit at the table and have a fair skinned and blond guy as a waiter... maybe an embarrasing prejudice, nearly all foreigners here (specially european) have a good economic situation, to put it in mild words.

Cheers.

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Re: The "Nazi Paul Schaefer"

Postby Hektor » 2 weeks 4 days ago (Mon May 22, 2023 9:10 pm)

Peter H wrote:....Some articles claims that the sect dressed in "uniforms from the 30's". This is also a lie. As the founders of the sect, Colonia Dignidad, were germans, and the sect was similar to the Amish in some ways, many of the members dressed in folkdresses, like dirndl and lederhosen. Not very much like uniforms, huh?

Paul Schäfer is a homosexual pedophile, and a religious moron. If he started his sect during the Hitler period, he would have been sent to a Concentration camp. If he committed sex crimes during his period as a medic in the german Air Force, he would have been sentenced to die by firering squad.

There's nothing "nazi" about Paul Schäfer, his sect or his crimes. Period.

Maybe this is a little off topic, but this is how the media distorts the truth.

Sorry for my bad english.


I'd have my reservations about any of the allegations. Just a few thoughts.
* Paul Schaefer was drafted into the Wehrmacht... Not a "Nazi", not at all. Not more than any American is a Republican, Democratic or any other party, by virtue of being drafted into the armed forces of the USA.
* There were allegations of molestation against Schaefer. But sexual abuse can be quite difficult to prove. And it's also handy as an accusation to discredit or disparage people. Due to the loaded nature of the subject it's also an effective tool to attack a person. And once a person has been accused repetitively, with huge media coverage to the case. Expect the number of accusations to grow and the stories to become more bizarre and embellished. Especially when the accusers know that there is no risk in doing so and that they will be believed, no matter what they say (There is however a criteria of credibility with the audience).
* The "NAZIS" were probably the first to prosecute sexual abuse in religious organizations. There were trials against pedophile priests in the 1936. Today this is reframed as 'religious persecution'. This although the Catholic Church now admits that there was merit to the accusations.
* If Schaefer was caught with sexual crimes, there was indeed a chance of him being with a pink trial in a concentration camp. If he joined the Communists or claimed to be Jewish, he could have cash in on compensation after WW2.
* Schaefer and his group were Pentecostal, more of the legalist kind (controlling) and not of the hypercharismatic kind, which appears less conservative in image. It seems to have been pietistic in character valuing industriousness and they were economically successful, which is exactly what will draw envy of others. And that makes them a target of hate, when they are an identifiable group. They also spend a lot on community welfare. Although I got to admit that I don't have all the details on this. Within the created narrative this is only a sideline and anything they did is put into a sinister light now.
* The Nazi association is rather preposterous. The reason probably, because the group was predominantly German, was not trendy, explicitly multicultural or woke in any way. Indeed no "Nazi uniforms". But legalist Pentecostals tend to have 'typical dress codes' to appear modest and decent. It's similar to other religious groups with a legalist (many rules) type of approach.

Was there merits to the allegations of sexual misconduct? Possible, but as said the subject is prone to be embellished over time. It's similar to witchcraft allegation where the narrative also will become more and more bizarre. Just think of the claim that members of the witch-cults claim to have sex with the devil. And that the devil's semen is 'ice cold' etc. Testimony will feed the lust for sensation within the audience.

The reporting on "Colonia Dignidad" has become kind of a cult itself. Movies were made... Huge reports of several 100 pages including testimonies and conjecture. They dug through the area to find 'poison gas', 'weapons caches' and 'hidden graves', etc. This is rather obsessive. They even work on erecting a museum there. One has to ask: Why this over the top obsession with a group that had less than a 1000 members over decades? It's for sure not a concern with sexual abuse that drives it. Although that is paraded all the time there.

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Re: The "Nazi Paul Schaefer"

Postby hermod » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Tue May 23, 2023 10:56 am)

It's very important for (((mainstream mass media))) to label all the Germans of that time --- men, women, children and babies --- as evil Naytzees. Or else the Allies mass murdered millions of innocent civilians with their flying crematories and the victors of WWII can just forget about their carefully-manufactured moral high ground and all the undue privileges linked to it. That's "softcore Holocaust denial," as Deborah Lipstadt put it.
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

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Re: The "Nazi Paul Schaefer"

Postby Hektor » 2 weeks 3 days ago (Tue May 23, 2023 2:03 pm)

hermod wrote:It's very important for (((mainstream mass media))) to label all the Germans of that time --- men, women, children and babies --- as evil Naytzees. Or else the Allies mass murdered millions of innocent civilians with their flying crematories and the victors of WWII can just forget about their carefully-manufactured moral high ground and all the undue privileges linked to it. That's "softcore Holocaust denial," as Deborah Lipstadt put it.


In summary that's the motive. If that was a multicultural hippy commune smoking weed and taking sexual liberties with kids.. You can bet that this wouldn't even make the news. At least not big. There was a case of a secular private school in Germany where the teachers took sexual liberties with pupils (also of a homosexual kind)... And this was only briefly in the news. There were major scandals involving sexual misconduct of Left-Greens in the 1980s. And there was the case of the Odenwaldschule were teachers were involved in systematic sexual abuse. No 'museum for this, though'. But Bodo Ramelow can't wait to have a monument/museum in Chile... probably paid for by German tax payers:
https://countercurrents.org/2022/11/ger ... -dignidad/

Of course the place also had a "Nazi Past"... even if they had to construct one bending whatever they needed and could.


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