My Majdanek Presentation almost completed / now completed

[Wilbur]

Fred zz, a message was sent with details that would probably be too off-topic for the thread, check your inbox.

I doubt you will convince, they'll just take the line in Tomasz Kranz' 2010 book of tactical technical confusion: "Little is known about the process of killing people with gas at the Majdanek camp; neither in technical terms nor with regard to the organization of the extermination procedure" (p. 55)

[Hektor]

Fred zz, fantastic work. If I may make a suggestion, instead of burning bridges you should continue the contact and request access to some USHMM scans of archives on Majdanek. Chances are if you'll ask they'll permit remote access, especially as it is directly relevant to your inquiry, and as they couldn't satisfy the questions on its own. If you're interested, I'll provide details on what to ask for. (With some small delay, as I think I'm still under moderation.)

I am in the process a reply (wording and content) of pursuing them to stop claiming Zyklon B was used to gas people in B1. If I am able to convince, that would mean 100% of the Zyklon deliveries to Majdanek were used to save lives.
I would be interested in pursuing along your thought line. Pray continue.

The trick is not to consider humanitarian usage of Zyklon B. Which would actually be the most plausible reason for this being ordered, used and the cans and bills being present at the camp.

Zyklon B can of course be dangerous to human life as well. But using it in industrial style gassing is a completely different matter. Especially when one considers that there would be cheaper, easier to handle methods that can achieve the same goals.

[HeiligeSturm]

The trick is not to consider humanitarian usage of Zyklon B. Which would actually be the most plausible reason for this being ordered, used and the cans and bills being present at the camp.

Zyklon B can of course be dangerous to human life as well. But using it in industrial style gassing is a completely different matter. Especially when one considers that there would be cheaper, easier to handle methods that can achieve the same goals.

Apparently there was quite a lot of Zyklon B in Majdanek when the Soviets took it over.

A warehouse filled with containers of Zyklon B (poison gas pellets) at the Majdanek death camp.
Date After 1944 July 22
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa18360

One picture here:
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... f-zyklon-b

Yet another famous picture was taken with gas mask on top of one of the crates.

Majdanek survivor Helen Schwartz said she was given a shower because the Germans had run out of gas.
"Water came down instead of the gas." And of course it's a miracle.

[Fred zz]

Here is a chart of Zyklon deliveries from Mattogno's Majdanek book.
see attachment

[hermod]

https://postimg.cc/PpmnMhNJ

[Hektor]

The trick is not to consider humanitarian usage of Zyklon B. Which would actually be the most plausible reason for this being ordered, used and the cans and bills being present at the camp.

Zyklon B can of course be dangerous to human life as well. But using it in industrial style gassing is a completely different matter. Especially when one considers that there would be cheaper, easier to handle methods that can achieve the same goals.

Apparently there was quite a lot of Zyklon B in Majdanek when the Soviets took it over.

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A warehouse filled with containers of Zyklon B (poison gas pellets) at the Majdanek death camp.
Date After 1944 July 22
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa18360

One picture here:
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/ ... f-zyklon-b

Yet another famous picture was taken with gas mask on top of one of the crates.

Majdanek survivor Helen Schwartz said she was given a shower because the Germans had run out of gas.
"Water came down instead of the gas." And of course it's a miracle.

Zyklon B present at camps that have delousing facilities and a lice/typhus problem. Now what does that actually prove?

https://postimg.cc/PpmnMhNJ

"Ohne Reizstoff"... Without irritant. That's apparent the silver bullet for the Holocaustians. Heard that over and over again from Causties. "See, they have removed the irritant, so the victims wouldn't know they were being gassed'.

That doesn't really make sense of course. What difference would it make, if the irritant was there? Virtually none.

Unless adding the irritant was simply too expensive and one considered it possible to save some resources by not adding the irritant?

[hermod]

"Ohne Reizstoff"... Without irritant. That's apparent the silver bullet for the Holocaustians. Heard that over and over again from Causties. "See, they have removed the irritant, so the victims wouldn't know they were being gassed'.

That doesn't really make sense of course. What difference would it make, if the irritant was there? Virtually none.

Unless adding the irritant was simply too expensive and one considered it possible to save some resources by not adding the irritant?

The Holocaustians' silver bullet implies that the alleged doomed Jews were able to get out of the Holohoax gas chambers once the doors had been closed. Ridiculousness at its best. It also implies that the alleged doomed Jews were too stupid to be scared by pellets dropped through holes into the ceiling of the room where they had been locked.

The lack of the irritant would have made no difference for the slaughter of human beings in a gas chamber, but it made a big difference for the fumigation of clothes and buildings because it made the job of the German sanitary workers much more dangerous.

[HeiligeSturm]

Zyklon B present at camps that have delousing facilities and a lice/typhus problem. Now what does that actually prove?

It can prove a lot of things. Like I wrote:

Majdanek survivor Helen Schwartz said she was given a shower because the Germans had run out of gas.
"Water came down instead of the gas." And of course it's a miracle.

The Germans had a stock of Zyklon B in Majdanek and didn't use it in the showers.
So, when Helen Schwartz said the Germans had run out of the gas, she probably didn't know there are pictures of those Majdanek cans.
If she ever was in Majdanek, she didn't see the parts of the building where the blue staining can be seen (and showers are missing).
She almost certainly did not see the warehouse but somehow she knew that the Germans had run out of the gas.
The other thing is that walking alive out of the shower is not a miracle.

[Fred zz]

true, Ms. Schwartz would have never seen any blue staining when deloused in B42. That goes for Ella Blumenthal too.
It was some guy (idiot) that spewed some nonsense about "aint got no gas".
However, Ms. Schwartz did spew some BS about " "Don't eat, don't eat because it is hard to die when they give you the gas because your stomach is so full." How that fits, I have no idea.
If interested in what was actually said, see this Bitchute Video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/W1Qsy9iY93I3/
watch from 40:48 to 42:42.

[Fred zz]

Majdanek Urns
I covered this before, but a bit more info came my way.
Like the Auschwitz Main Camp, Majdanek also had urns. As you all know, urns are for the most part, are for single (1 person) individuals. No groundbreaking discoveries here. This posting gives you all a look at what, at least some of the people cremated at this facility, were put in after cremation. This old photo shows that there were quite a few urns on hand at the new Majdanek Cremation building. You can see camera angle and location of the pile of urns in the photo, looking at the drawing provided. A look on the right side of the photo, shows the remains of a bed at this building. That area was the living area of the workers at this building with chimney. The Majdanek Museum elected not to have this part of the crematoria rebuilt.
The photo of the single urn is currently on display with label at the Majdanek Museum.
Note the three different versions of what happened to the human remains and urns:
• Sign at Majdanek Crematoria
• News Article...(Hmm? I wonder if this fertilizer will make my tomatoes more tasty?)
• Label on the display urn inside B62 museum building
All kinds of stories here.
Also, Just a little something else I noticed in the last two photo attachment here. The Autopsy Room at the Majdanek crematoria, along with the living area, also had a chimney in this room. This is just something I noticed while looking at the photo. Just letting those interested to be in the know. No big thing at this time.
Just my observations
see attachments

[Hektor]

Zyklon B present at camps that have delousing facilities and a lice/typhus problem. Now what does that actually prove?

It can prove a lot of things. Like I wrote:

Majdanek survivor Helen Schwartz said she was given a shower because the Germans had run out of gas.
"Water came down instead of the gas." And of course it's a miracle.

The Germans had a stock of Zyklon B in Majdanek and didn't use it in the showers.
So, when Helen Schwartz said the Germans had run out of the gas, she probably didn't know there are pictures of those Majdanek cans.
If she ever was in Majdanek, she didn't see the parts of the building where the blue staining can be seen (and showers are missing).
She almost certainly did not see the warehouse but somehow she knew that the Germans had run out of the gas.
The other thing is that walking alive out of the shower is not a miracle.

Those "Holocaust Survivors" are all in some kind of (Jewish) organisations. And that means they will naturally talk about their personal past and (supposed) experience they had. And perhaps this woman reporting that she was in the showers, but not gassed, got the 'explanation' by somebody else of :"Oh the Germans ran out of gas". Now the story sounds ridiculous on its face. But bear in mind that this is literally a cult environment where the Holocaust is a powerful thought-terminating cliche that takes homicidal gassings for granted.,

There is however lots of indicators that Jews were in those camps for years and only 'learned about homicidal gassings' (and extermination plan) after the war. E.g. Otto Frank expected to see his daughters again. So he didn't think that 'the Germans were killing their prisoners'.
It's anyway remarkable how the Anne Frank story became a trademark within 'Holocaust incorporated', since while being an emotionally laden story, it actually contradicts key elements of the Holocaust narrative. The Franks are ontological evidence against the Holocaust.

[Fred zz]

Missing B45
This posting is just an item of interest. If you look at the attachments provided, you can notice that B45 Majdanek building is missing in the past. In the old photos taken after liberation in July 1944, you can see something occupying the location of where B45 is today. My guess is electric generation structure. However, in one photo it seems B45 is there but not absolutely sure since I can just see a corner of a/the building.
Concrete structures on both sides of the building B45. If you look at the photos with the building there, on both sides of the building, there seems to be a concrete base, possible the leftover from the structure that was there? Not sure what it is, but would love to know.
Playing “Reconstruction” with the camp again. Just more evidence that since 1945, the people overseeing the preservation of the camp as a memorial doing all kinds of construction thereby masking the actual history of the activities that went on inside this camp.
I think the structure at the site of B45 as an electric generator for the camp. If not, then where did the electricity for the camp come from? The so-called bunkers in “A” Chamber and B1 Chamber come from to illuminate the lights? Seems to have a tall smoke stake.

“Let evidence guide your perceptions”….. Something I hear from Tucker Carlson

[Hektor]

Well, in case of "the Holocaust", they don't need evidence. They have "survivors".

[Fred zz]

I touched on this subject in an earlier posting here and thought I would dive a bit deeper into the subject.

See Video from 2:05 to 2:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k2ivX3D3BU&t=82s

Note what he states but did not go into even one detail as to how the Germans did this in secret. And the guy from ABC News does not even ask. I guess if you don't want an answer, do not ask the question.

Here is Fred's take on this subject that will be a list of items I will soon present to the Holocaust Museums.

My take:
• Why not put the homicidal gas chambers in a more discreet location? In this area, there are three buildings conducting registration, delousing of fabric materials, delousing of men and women, haircuts, showers, and issuing camp uniforms. All this incoming inmate activity going on, and more than one homicidal gas chambers in the thick of all it? Also, the gassed bodies would have to had been transported to the Majdanek Middle Field 1 crematoria for all to see? At the time period of homicidal gassing (Ending early Sept 1943), Majdanek had only two sets of oil fueled cremation ovens. Do recall the new crematoria with 5 coke fueled Kori muffles did not go into service until January 1944, long after homicidal gassings were claimed to be going on. The new crematoria were still being built in the Fall of 1943, and went into service in January 1944.

for ease of reference, I attached one sky view of the area in question.

[cold beer]

I touched on this subject in an earlier posting here and thought I would dive a bit deeper into the subject.

See Video from 2:05 to 2:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k2ivX3D3BU&t=82s

Please get me up to speed on the the claims made concerning the so-called Harvest Festival shooting. In the video they show a small number of pits. What do they claim happened to the 18,000 bodies?