Rudolf on trial: 'No court has the right to decide history'

[Mads]

There had a demonstration been planned for April 8th, 2006 in Mannheim, demanding the release of the thought-criminals under the slogan Create freedom of speech - freedom for Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf, David Irving and Siegfried Verbeke.
This demonstration has been forbidden by all the "German" courts up to the German Constitutional Court ("Bundesverfassungsgericht"):

Originally, I actually had included a couple of lines about this, then erased them again in order not to let the post cover more than one topic.

I only have one thing to say: if you ask for permission, all the authorities have to do is to say "no". You should never ask permission.

[Kiwichap]

"There had a demonstration been planned for April 8th, 2006 in Mannheim, demanding the release of the thought-criminals..."

It will take something more than a demonstration.

A mass protest in New York City, Nov 9th, by over 10,000 Orthodox Jews protesting the EXISTENCE of that criminal state Israel. NOT ONE WORD about it in ANY media outlet.

http://www.halturnershow.com/10000JewsProtestExistenceOfIsrael.html

We know Rudolf's plight, when examined and proven, threatens the very EXISTENCE of that 'shitty' little state also, probably more so. "Israel, founded on the ashes of the holohoax", Bronfman & UN.

When the criminal liars want to keep something quiet, they sure can. Protest seems futile & The truth is no defense. Thank goodness for the internet.

[Radar]

Mads may have a point about the pamphlets distributed by thousands. The authorities no doubt would crack down on a few who printed them, etc. if they could locate them [maybe abroad too] but they could never prosecute all the distributors without creating more publicity. It would take some courage but would be effective to wake up many sleeping Germans - I hope. They are sound sleepers at the moment.

[Mads]

Mads may have a point about the pamphlets distributed by thousands. The authorities no doubt would crack down on a few who printed them, etc. if they could locate them [maybe abroad too] but they could never prosecute all the distributors without creating more publicity. It would take some courage but would be effective to wake up many sleeping Germans - I hope. They are sound sleepers at the moment.

Yes, I do think I have a point. And as for those Germans, yes, they are some awful sleepers right now.

[Bergmann]

Yes, I do think I have a point. And as for those Germans, yes, they are some awful sleepers right now.

The Germans live at present high on the hog: good income, 6 weeks paid yearly vacation, 13th month salry, winter ski vacation etc.

Germar Rudolf tried to give them some of their dignity back, in return the Germans put him in jail.

If the Germans in Germany don’t think it is worth fighting for their basic rights, they should not expect that people living outside of Germany go for them on the barricades.

Israel Shamir to the Germans:
»You accepted your second-class status of children of lesser god, when you tried publishers of Norman Finkelstein's Holocaust Industry and allowed agents of ADL to march streets of Berlin with Israeli flags and portraits of Bomber Harris. You agreed that your blood is cheap. Do not be surprised if it will flow after the supply of Palestinians will dry up.«
http://www.israelshamir.net/shamirImage ... Berlin.htm

[grenadier]

Bergmann wrote:
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You're absolutely right. For example, what would be the interest,
say, of americans to do it? After all the US won the war and the
Holocaust, with the gas chambers, is an excellent cover up of
american crimes in wwII. It makes us forget they even took place.
I believe the key for revisionism to be included in the mainstream
lies with the germans. But they have to wake up from their slumber.
Regrettably I don't see that happening anytime soon.

[Kiwichap]

Bergmann:

If the Germans in Germany don’t think it is worth fighting for their basic rights, they should not expect that people living outside of Germany go for them on the barricades.

grenadier

You're absolutely right.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!

I grew up on the other side, and at the bottom of the world. I don't think it is possible to get further away from the events of WWII as New Zealand is, yet there is almost complete acceptance of the BIG LIE here as elsewhere. I guess some Arab and some Asian nations are the only folk who were not taught the BIG LIE from children, but the liars are racing overtime to rectify that now.

The entire planet has been hoodwinked by an evil lying agenda from a powerful few, for a nefarious purpose, having it's roots in antiquity.

Without going into the details, which should be known to those reading this forum, consider this.

We know the power of the 'you know who' in the USA and other nations, it's mind boggling to say the least. Poor Germany has had and still has a double dose of their toxic poison. Millions of Germans killed or removed from the nation after the war. The post-war trials, the judges, prosecutors, witnesses, etc were almost to a man, the 'you know who', fulfilling the wicked agenda. If I, at the bottom of the planet got lied to and deceived as a child, and my nation is still under this wicked spell, think what the German children got and still get today.

Even more, the Freudian, Jungian psycho lying claptrap, when force fed to children is soul destroying. Guilt, even false guilt as in this case, is a powerful weapon and lasts for generations. If not exposed it will last forever.

It is wrong to say the Germans don't think truth is worth fighting for. Thousands have been imprisoned and penalised over the years, they still are. Their government is totally infested with the liars, just as is the USA, Britain, Australia and other nations. Germans have been fighting back, not only in Germany but elsewhere. See what happenes to the 'lovers of the truth' wherever they are. Rudolf and Zundel have been wickedly dealt with, and from the USA of all places. "The land of the brave and the free". Ha! Lets not get carried away with that little dream anymore. It's turning into a nightmare in the USA.

We still have yet to contend with that 'shitty' little slum called Israel, which takes upon itself the right to kidnap and persecute 'truth tellers' from anywhere on the planet, and will do so if their puppet nations get cold feet.

It all becomes clear to those having FAITH. Ask Ernest Zundel.

The folk living in the nations that could actually destroy these lies and deceptions have LOST the 'FAITH OF THEIR FATHERS'. They have fogotten the ROCK their nations were built upon. Now they love the shifting sands. Our nations have been sucked dry of strength, power and the 'will' to resist evil by the temptations of the 'you know who'. No wonder even a small wave of threatened persecution undermines the foundations our nations were built upon. It can only get worse.

So spare a thought for the German people, they are at the center of this nasty lying web of deceit. Their nation has been drained of blood by these vampires these last 60 years. Their children have been corrupted and have had their very souls destroyed, to the last one, if that were at all possible. It is a wonder they have any will to resist at all, yet they do. Even now they put up a good fight, and off to prison they go. (Stolz, Mahler et al)

It is up to us, anywhere and everywhere, those of us still having a vestige of courage and a love for our fellow man. Those of us who are nigh crushed when we see the wicked lying their way to destroy the truth. This is our fight. If Germany falls, we all fall, you had better believe it. This is a battle that has raged for centuries. The enemy is still the same old foe. There is nothing new under the sun. We just need faith to see it. (John 8:44 - 1Th 2:15)

Cheers.

[Reinhard]

Kiwichap, thank you for your warm and friendly words.
Greetings from Germany.

[ClaudiaRothenbach]

Kiwichap, you are right! This is a global issue. Every nation is responsible for its children and has to look that no one poisons their minds.

There is hope since something fundamental changed over the last month. Thanks to Robert Faurisson revisionism has reached the next level: we have presidents on our side. We are supported by the presidents of Iran and Venezuela at least.

The good news is that Iran is an important oil supplier for China and Russia. As both countries have WMDs the propability for air raids against Iran during the holocau$t conference is low.

[Bergmann]

First things first.

The first thing to do in Germany is to either nullify or substantially correct the so-called anti-revisionist law, StGB Par. 130, the “Volksverhetzungs Paragraph”.

This is a bad and unjust law.
Lex mala, lex nulla
"A bad law is no law" (St. Thomas Aquinas)

As long as the great majority of German voters elect the established political parties (SPD, CDU, FDP, Grüne etc) over and over again at huge majorities with over 90%, nothing will happen.

The German voter will have to get the far-right NPD into the governing parliament with at least 5 to 10% in order to change this law.

If not, revisionists like Zündel and Rudolf may not get out of the slammer ever.

[Mads]

Kiwichap, I wanted to write some comments on this, but now I don´t have time for it, so I can only say that you´re more or less right in everything you write.

Many people, including myself and including some Germans, have a tendency to be impatient with the Germans. But we should remember that Germany has been smashed in an incredibly brutal war, or rather two wars. To rise again is very difficult.

And you´re right about that: "If Germany falls, we all fall..." There was a reason for that book "Germany Must Perish". And actually, as you say, the Germans aren´t doing that bad. There still is resistance in Germany.