Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

All aspects including lead-in to hostilities and results.

Moderator: Moderator

Forum rules
Be sure to read the Rules/guidelines before you post!
Mkk
Valued contributor
Valued contributor
Posts: 566
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:00 am

Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby Mkk » 1 decade 4 months ago (Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:21 am)

As our own Hannover says : They lie, they lie, they continue to lie. The Spiegel article quotes some researcher claiming that prisoners were shot and Jews forced into a camp ghetto - no proof is given. As things stand, I see evidence of humane treatment of prisoners, and unsubstantiated claims about non-humane treatment of prisoners. Not that it was unreasonable if the Germans shot a POW trying to escape, for example. Being a POW they were under the protection of the Geneva convention - but if they didn't respect it's terms, why should the Germans?

Image

Two Frenchmen have posted surprising photos of life in a Nazi war camp that show POWs dancing, sporting costumes, and playing music, Der Spiegel reports. Reports of Polish officers enjoying a cultural life in German WWII camps have often been dismissed as exaggeration, but these photos of life at Oflag VII-A, a camp in Murnau, southern Bavaria, seem hard to refute. "The prisoners were treated well, at least as much as that can be said under these circumstances," confirms Murnau historian Marion Hruschka.

Indeed, the Nazis showed off Murnau's "Oflag"—a POW camp for officers—to the International Red Cross as a "model camp," says Hruschka. But it wasn't always so rosy: Several prisoners were shot and Jewish officers had to live in a camp ghetto. As for the pics, they ended up in France, where a teenager spotted them in 1999 sitting on a garbage bin. He and his father, Alain Rempfer, later posted them online and heard from many family members of the Polish POWs. "Some of them recognized their fathers, grandfathers, or uncles in the pictures," says Rempfer.

http://www.newser.com/story/161314/pics ... -camp.html
"Truth is hate for those who hate the truth"- Auchwitz lies, p.13

User avatar
hermod
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 2919
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:52 am

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby hermod » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:47 am)

Image
"This is a photo taken in 1943 at a place called Finkenstein.We were in a working camp for part of XXB."


Image
Alan Forster on the left (with 'tash) "dining in" at Fort Rauch


Image
Image
"Jim sent me this wonderful Christmas card he had sent during his time as a PoW in Stalag XXB."


http://www.wwiimemories.co.uk/James.htm - Information for Veterans and their families



Prisoner of War publication, September 1942, Vol. 1 No. 5





Prisoner of War publication, April 1943, Vol. 1 No. 12

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

http://www.wwiimemories.co.uk/powjapr43112.htm
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

Mkk
Valued contributor
Valued contributor
Posts: 566
Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:00 am

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby Mkk » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:22 am)

Excellent information, hermud.

I think you are shaping up to be a valuable contributor to this forum. :cheers:
"Truth is hate for those who hate the truth"- Auchwitz lies, p.13

User avatar
Balsamo
Valued contributor
Valued contributor
Posts: 305
Joined: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:44 pm

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby Balsamo » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:38 am)

Well,
Thanks for the documentation.
But it is not a scoop...you could have sent links to articles about the Great Escape or Escape to Victory
movies...
What i mean is that none of the soldiers on those pics look russian or Polish...

User avatar
Hannover
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 10395
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2002 7:53 pm

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 2 months ago (Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:04 pm)

Balsamo wrote:Well,
Thanks for the documentation.
But it is not a scoop...you could have sent links to articles about the Great Escape or Escape to Victory
movies...
What i mean is that none of the soldiers on those pics look russian or Polish...


Balsamo, I hope you realize these are not Hollywood propaganda "movies".

Excellent work, Mkk, hermod. I note fictitious 'gas chambers' advocate Balsamo, has no serious answer to it

'Polish / Russian soldiers' ... what is that? :lol:

And what would they look like that could be differentiated?

- Hannover
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

JoFo
Member
Member
Posts: 92
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:14 pm

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby JoFo » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:40 pm)

Balsamo has a point. The character of the war in the east was different from the war in the west and that manifested itself in the treatment of prisoners. Look at the dates on all the news clippings; they are all prior to 1944 when the second front opened in earnest. It should come as no surprise that the Germans treated their western captives correctly at that time.

The topic of this forum is the holocaust and the holocaust claims that certain groups were singled out for persecution and extermination. How does this thread refute any of that?

JoFo
Member
Member
Posts: 92
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:14 pm

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby JoFo » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:32 pm)

Well, before I get blasted for misinterpreting the intent of the previous posts, I mistakenly thought this was under the holocaust debate forum and not the WWII forum. (Still getting used to the new look of this website.)
Mea culpa!

User avatar
hermod
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 2919
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:52 am

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby hermod » 1 decade 1 month ago (Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:56 am)

JoFo wrote:The character of the war in the east was different from the war in the west and that manifested itself in the treatment of prisoners.


That's true but that was Stalin's fault. During the war, the Germans made repeated attempts through neutral countries and the International Committee of the Red Cross to reach mutual agreement on the treatment of prisoners by Germany and the USSR. But Stalin always refused to reach such a mutual agreement on the treatment of POWs. Stalin had even ordered the destruction of the Soviet POWs (because he saw the soldiers who had surrendered as traitors - see Stalin's Order No. 270 below). Moreover a major reason for the terrible fate of the Soviet POWs was the unusual nature of the war on the eastern front, particularly during the first year -- June 1941-June 1942 -- when vastly greater numbers of prisoners fell into German hands than could possibly be accommodated adequately. And the German POWs didn't suffer less in Soviet hands. For instance, out of the nearly 110,000 German prisoners captured in Stalingrad, only about 6,000 (5.5%) ever returned.

Stalin's Order No. 270:

If ... "instead of organizing resistance to the enemy, some Red Army men prefer to surrender, they shall be destroyed by all possible means, both ground-based and from the air, whereas the families of the Red Army men who have been taken prisoner shall be deprived of the state allowance [that is, rations] and relief."

The commanders and political officers ... "who surrender to the enemy shall be considered malicious deserters, whose families are liable to be arrested [just] as the families of deserters who have violated the oath and betrayed their Motherland."


More here: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/Teplyakov.html (Stalin's War Against His Own Troops - The Tragic Fate of Soviet Prisoners of War in German Captivity)
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

User avatar
G-Fox
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:42 am

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby G-Fox » 1 decade 1 month ago (Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:40 am)

The only soldiers the Germans ever mistreated in the war were the Slavs and Russians... Otherwise it was good to be captured by Germans.... Almost like being on holiday! Normally POW camps were located in nice towns and people in them were well taken care of...

Breker
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 909
Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 5:39 pm
Location: Europa

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby Breker » 1 decade 1 month ago (Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:03 pm)

G-Fox wrote:The only soldiers the Germans ever mistreated in the war were the Slavs and Russians... Otherwise it was good to be captured by Germans.... Almost like being on holiday! Normally POW camps were located in nice towns and people in them were well taken care of...

I don't believe that the Slavs or the Russians were treated any worse than the Germans in the hands of the Allies. Having said that, I think the assertion that being in any POW camp was equal to being on holiday is ridiculous. Granted, POWs were not on the front, but rations eventually became thin and disease was common in all POW camps. Please, G-FOX, do not get carried away.
B.
Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the "Holocaust" narrative is the message.

User avatar
G-Fox
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:42 am

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby G-Fox » 1 decade 4 weeks ago (Fri May 10, 2013 11:17 am)

Breker wrote:
G-Fox wrote:The only soldiers the Germans ever mistreated in the war were the Slavs and Russians... Otherwise it was good to be captured by Germans.... Almost like being on holiday! Normally POW camps were located in nice towns and people in them were well taken care of...

I don't believe that the Slavs or the Russians were treated any worse than the Germans in the hands of the Allies. Having said that, I think the assertion that being in any POW camp was equal to being on holiday is ridiculous. Granted, POWs were not on the front, but rations eventually became thin and disease was common in all POW camps. Please, G-FOX, do not get carried away.
B.

Breker I had a great grand father who fought on the Nazi side guarded P.O.W. Camps at points. He said the US and British P.O.W.s were treated better then their own forces by the Nazis and it was treat to gaurd one because because there was extra food! At the Russian camps it was the opposite... Even he had to have less food because it could be stolin! He originally was a sympathetic to the Russkies untill he came home after the war ended in which he crossed through East Germany... There he was stoped by Russians who interrogated him and ask him how he treated Russain P.O.W.s and he told them that everytime a Russian stole food he turned his back. This answer was not satistisfactory because "RUSSIANS DON'T STEAL!" and they promptly beat the living shit out of him. He crawled back to West Germany and after that pretty much never gave a shit about Russians again!

User avatar
Hektor
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 5168
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:59 am

Re: Pics Show POWs Laughing, Dancing in Nazi Camp

Postby Hektor » 1 decade 1 week ago (Sun May 26, 2013 2:45 am)

G-Fox wrote:The only soldiers the Germans ever mistreated in the war were the Slavs and Russians... Otherwise it was good to be captured by Germans.... Almost like being on holiday! Normally POW camps were located in nice towns and people in them were well taken care of...

The pictures also show Polish prisoners, if I am not mistaken.

Even from Auschwitz Polish prisoners could sent post cards:
Image


Return to “WWII Europe / Atlantic Theater Revisionist Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests