bombsaway wrote:During and after 42-43 when all the ghettos across Europe were massively depopulated, and it would seem reasonable that internment camps would pop up to absorb some of the large number of displaced Jews -- Ghetto population at its peak is hard to determine but certainly in the millions. Millions were probably displaced, with a minority going to forced labor camps.
It's already been said but here it is again:
There were over 40,000 camps and collection sites, the vast majority of which never were identified by name or by their respective characteristics. That indicates an
unknown number of sites where less-abled Jews were interned.
Of most labor camps for Jews which
are identified in some way (which are only a tiny fraction of the overall number that existed), we don't know the nature or scope of work that was done there (neither in the GG nor further East). This leaves plenty of room for less-demanding work to have been performed across Europe by Jews who were "unfit for work" in the GG or in a more general context.
If you cannot name all of these camps (or even a sizeable fraction of them),
why should I? We know they existed. And that's a gaping hole in the suggestion that Jews could have gone nowhere but underneath Treblinka.
Of those Jews that were truly decrepit and completely unable to do
any work of any kind, we have three possibilities, re: documentation:
(1) there was no reason or desire to document the final placement of these "useless", non-threatening individuals,
(2) the [few] documents that did possibly exist were made to disappear by someone(s), probably post-war
(3) all the Jews in question were gassed and buried in precisely-known locations at AR camps.
You have all of your chips on #3, despite the conflicted interests and patterns of deception which permeate this subject within that position, and a total lack of physical evidence.
Revisionists tend to find #1 and #2 more plausible, for obvious reasons (made even more obvious by the behavior of Jewish networks and governments well-into present-day). And of course, this question of "Aktion Reinhard Jews" doesn't exist in a vacuum. It has to be weighted alongside allegations of events in places like Auschwitz-Birkenau, which are said to be of the same nature and policy. Most would agree,
if it were ever generally accepted that the Auschwitz 'gassings' were indeed a hoax, few would keep their belief in Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec. The question of which "side" the liars were on would become clear and
those common appeals to 'authority' would fall apart.
In your post you mention the 60%of Jews not used for forced labor (this is a low figure, most German documents give higher number ~70%)
You refer to "most German documents" giving a "higher number ~70%". Please provide examples of these German documents you have in mind.
[Jews] were resettled or did very light labor. Is there evidence of this? (such as a camp as distinguished from a normal 'forced labor' camp.
Nearby along the eastbound route across the GG-Soviet border, there were known labor sites where light labor was performed (e.g. laundries, warehousing/sorting, shoemakers, tailors, carpentry). This included Koldychevo, Slonim, Novogroduk, all of which align on the same route toward Minsk, where even more light labor opportunities were available (e.g. assembly work). Of course, all of this leaves out the fact that there are thousands of camps we remain entirely unaware of but which are known to have existed. So, in short, yes, there is absolutely evidence of "this". There is much more evidence of "this" than there is of even a small fraction of 1.2 million persons' worth of bone meal underneath the AR camps.
As a baseline we can see there is a ton of witness and documentary evidence concerning the resettled German Jews (mostly in 41, up until the ghettos they were in were cleared), and the Jews resettled in Transnistria. These were resettlements, where entire communities were moved, and reformed. Transnistria in particular is a good example of 'makeshift' resettlement, because the displaced communities received very little help and were mostly left to their own devices, with some Jews even wandering the countryside and begging for money in cities
Your suggestion that documentation of resettlement of German Jews and those in
Transnistria should be comparable to that of those in the Baltic States and other parts of Ukraine is
a question of the scale of any formal administration and the centralization and recording functions thereof. There was little administrative organization to work with in most parts of Ukraine and the Baltic states, compared to
Transnistria which was right outside of Romania and occupied relatively early-on. Resettlement of Jews from the GG occurred more than a year later (in devastating wartime), to places with little administrative structure, under greater need for secrecy (i.e. more central to the confiscation-operation of Aktion Reinhard & the final solution expulsion policy), with far less incentive or reason in documenting where the subjects ultimately went (given the chaos and circumstances of war, among other factors).
These are not comparable.
