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Re: Where Specifically Do [Revisionists] Think the Reinhardt Jews Went?

Postby Otium » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon May 29, 2023 6:45 pm)

HistorySpeaks wrote:So is your claim that the formation of Prussian Blue is a necessary consequence of repeated HCN exposure?


Dude. You're never going to win with these arguments about gassings, it's over, it's been over for 20+ years, move on. The only reason you keep repeating the same 'arguments' over and over again is because people who don't know better but want to believe that gassings happened can feel safe in the ignorance that there's some way, some how, to prove it with these talking points. You know what you're saying is rubbish, and nobody here should believe otherwise.

Germar's book, recently updated in April of 2020, dedicates the entirety of Chapter 6 to the formation and stability of Iron Blue (pp. 181-226).

Video -Germar Rudolf: The Chemistry of Auschwitz—Buna Rubber, Zyklon B, Prussian Blue and the Gas Chambers - May 2022
https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1014

Book - Germar Rudolf: The Chemistry of Auschwitz—The Technology and Toxicology of Zyklon B and the Gas Chambers – A Crime-Scene Investigation - April 2022
https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=2

Germar has covered every aspect and every argument. Do you really think these arguments you've lifted from someone else are unknown to Germar, that he hasn't heard or addressed it by now? That somehow these little arguments fell through the cracks when Germar wrote his book and updated it over the last two decades? Seriously?

You either know it's been covered, and pretending it hasn't, or you just genuienly have no clue but can't be bothered reading Germar's book to find out before you post.

Germar Rudolf's Responses to Richard Green
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14833

Myles Power shooting his mouth off
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14741

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Re: Where Specifically Do [Revisionists] Think the Reinhardt Jews Went?

Postby Otium » 1 week 4 days ago (Mon May 29, 2023 7:18 pm)

HistorySpeaks wrote:Don't forget that Korherr only referred to resettlement as a euphemism for Sonderbehandlung (the main Nazi code word for killing) in his report. The first draft of the Korherr Report did not mention the Reinhardt Jews having left europe via resettlement, but mentioned them having left europe by being subject to special treatment. After he wrote this draft Korherr was instructed to euphemize "special treatment" to 'transported . . . to the RUssian East.'


Nope: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14831&start=15#p107673

The claim that Korherr was using 'code words' is completely illogical. Moreover, Korherr himself denied any homicidal intent within his report after the war.

HistorySpeaks wrote:We also have to remember what the purpose of the Korherr Report was. Korherr was talking about the reduction in the Jewish population of Europe since the Nazis came to power. So the only relevant "resettlement" would be resettlement out of Europe. But this would be impossible in the case of the 'Russian East,' since the Germans never occupied the Asian portions of the USSR. They got no further than Nalchik in the North Caucasus, which is still technically Eastern Europe.


'Russian East' just means Russia, which was considered to be 'in the East'. This is obvious, and not a reference to Russia's literal East. Russia, even Western Russia, was to Germany still 'the East'. Even the term 'The East' was used in different contexts, to refer, for example, to former German territories in Western Poland. You're taking the words 'Russian East' much too literally.

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Re: Where Specifically Do [Revisionists] Think the Reinhardt Jews Went?

Postby Hektor » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue May 30, 2023 5:04 am)

Otium wrote:....'Russian East' just means Russia, which was considered to be 'in the East'. This is obvious, and not a reference to Russia's literal East. Russia, even Western Russia, was to Germany still 'the East'. Even the term 'The East' was used in different contexts, to refer, for example, to former German territories in Western Poland. You're taking the words 'Russian East' much too literally.


Dr. Joseph Buehler said the following at the IMT:
Because of the special problems of the Government General I had asked Heydrich for a personal interview and he received me. On that occasion, among many other things, I described in particular the catastrophic conditions which had resulted from the arbitrary bringing of Jews into the Government General. He replied that for this very reason he had invited the Governor General to the conference. The Reichsfuehrer SS, so he said, had received an order from the Fuehrer to round up all the Jews of Europe and to settle them in the Northeast of Europe, in Russia. I asked him whether this meant that the further arrival of Jews in the Government General would cease, and whether the hundreds of thousands of Jews who had been brought into the Government General without the permission of the Governor General would be moved out again. Heydrich promised me both these things. Heydrich said furthermore that the Fuehrer had given an order that Theresienstadt, a town in the Protectorate, would become a reservation in which old and sick Jews, and weak Jews who could not stand the strains of resettlement, were to be accommodated in the future. This information left me definitely convinced that the resettlement of the Jews, if not for the sake of the Jews, then for the sake of the reputation and prestige of the German people, would be carried out in a humane fashion. The removal of the Jews from the Government General was subsequently carried out exclusively by the Police.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/04-23-46.asp


This is on record since 1946. But I found that those statements are ignored or avoided by official 'historiography'. The reasons should be obvious... It doesn't fit the narrative. The statements are outright "Holocaust Denial". So rather leave it and work with the imagery that turned out to be useful.

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Re: Where Specifically Do [Revisionists] Think the Reinhardt Jews Went?

Postby hermod » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue May 30, 2023 5:53 am)

Otium wrote:
HistorySpeaks wrote:We also have to remember what the purpose of the Korherr Report was. Korherr was talking about the reduction in the Jewish population of Europe since the Nazis came to power. So the only relevant "resettlement" would be resettlement out of Europe. But this would be impossible in the case of the 'Russian East,' since the Germans never occupied the Asian portions of the USSR. They got no further than Nalchik in the North Caucasus, which is still technically Eastern Europe.


'Russian East' just means Russia, which was considered to be 'in the East'. This is obvious, and not a reference to Russia's literal East. Russia, even Western Russia, was to Germany still 'the East'. Even the term 'The East' was used in different contexts, to refer, for example, to former German territories in Western Poland. You're taking the words 'Russian East' much too literally.


Patently true. The "Russian East " was, of course, Germany's east (i.e. Eastern Europe, that is, the European lands located on the eastern side of the Bug river, which had been the western oblasts of the Russian Empire until 25 years earlier), not Russia's east (i.e. Siberia). Germany's "Russian East " was just like Ontario as the United States' "Canadian North." Exterminationist distortions and "decodings" are always amazing. :shock:
"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
"

Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925


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