Holocaust caused 17 million deaths? What???

[Spect3r]

An investigation by UK newspaper The Times found that despite reporting posts that promote the idea that the murder of 17 million people was a hoax, they were not taken down by Facebook's censors.

https://www.dw.com/en/facebook-refuses- ... a-44855519

So we went from 6 million to 6 million + 5 million to now being 17 million???
Where does this number comes from?

[Carto's Cutlass Supreme]

Probably along the lines of this Deborah Lipstadt quote:

The number 5 million also adheres to no known understanding of the number of non-Jews killed by the Nazis: While as many as 35 million people were killed overall because of Nazi aggression, the number of non-Jews who died in the concentration camps is no more than half a million, Bauer said.

SOURCE: https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember- ... istorians/

With this angle, the Allied food blockade and the starvation that happened in Greece from it, were deaths caused by the Nazis.

[Deitrich]

I was monitoring the USHMM propaganda the other day and in a comment asking how 6 million - 3 million still equals 6 million (referring to the Auschwitz death toll lowering)- a Jewish respondent came back with..

"Because the actual number is 20 million, and the 6 million was just a useful "approximation""

The problem can be addressed without showing that the 20 million figure is not based on any kind of "facts", same as the 6 million one never was and only in recent times with "Dimensions of Genocide" been given at least a pseudo-scientific basis- in the sense that- if one is to accept 20 million deaths the following paradox occurs...

Either the claim is that they were "Jewish" deaths- despite the fact that only 3.5 million Jew's ever came under control, that there were only something like 11 million Jew's in the whole of Europe including all the places that never even came under German control at any point and that this exceeds the world Jewish population by something like 5 million- an obvious absurdity.

Then the liar/believer is forced to claim that this includes non-Jewish deaths. That is to say- that most of them were NON-Jew's and hence the "Holocaust (tm)" was not especially Jewish at all.

In fact the more deaths wanting to be pinned on the Nazi's, the less important jewish deaths feature in it- which was the reason for the selection of the 5 million non-Jewish figure in the first place (to gather non-Jewish support for the Holocaust Myth, without robbing Jewry's special status)- a figure also without evidentiary basis.

One can "almost" formulate a response showing such absurdity "strong denial" having to be resorted to in public... almost. The liars immediately see what's happening and delete and block all the same.

[Hektor]

I guess when you make up one figure and get away with it. Making up more figures will get easy.
Evidence? Not really, just post some despicable propaganda images without telling people how they came into being.

[borjastick]

I was monitoring the USHMM propaganda the other day and in a comment asking how 6 million - 3 million still equals 6 million (referring to the Auschwitz death toll lowering)- a Jewish respondent came back with..

"Because the actual number is 20 million, and the 6 million was just a useful "approximation""

The problem can be addressed without showing that the 20 million figure is not based on any kind of "facts", same as the 6 million one never was and only in recent times with "Dimensions of Genocide" been given at least a pseudo-scientific basis- in the sense that- if one is to accept 20 million deaths the following paradox occurs...

Either the claim is that they were "Jewish" deaths- despite the fact that only 3.5 million Jew's ever came under control, that there were only something like 11 million Jew's in the whole of Europe including all the places that never even came under German control at any point and that this exceeds the world Jewish population by something like 5 million- an obvious absurdity.

Then the liar/believer is forced to claim that this includes non-Jewish deaths. That is to say- that most of them were NON-Jew's and hence the "Holocaust (tm)" was not especially Jewish at all.

In fact the more deaths wanting to be pinned on the Nazi's, the less important jewish deaths feature in it- which was the reason for the selection of the 5 million non-Jewish figure in the first place (to gather non-Jewish support for the Holocaust Myth, without robbing Jewry's special status)- a figure also without evidentiary basis.

One can "almost" formulate a response showing such absurdity "strong denial" having to be resorted to in public... almost. The liars immediately see what's happening and delete and block all the same.

So the next questions for the jewish respondent could be these -

1- Why was the jewish community in eastern europe claiming six million jews were threatened time and time again for over one hundred years and yet when the 6m figure was proposed during the holocaust period you suddenly claim the figure is 20m?

2- Who exactly were these 20 million you claim were killed in the holocaust?

[TimeTraveler]

17 million jeez now the Holocaust story sounds even more impossible. Now days it seems like the alleged number of deaths is whatever number they want it to be now. Today it's 17 million tomorrow it's 20 million then the day after that back down to 11 million their all over the place.

[Rogal Dorn]

Actually, a death toll any larger than "6 million Jews" is considered antisemitic.

Jews get upset if you try being "one of those annoying people" who try to take from them "their" holocaust and try redefining it as the deliberate persecution of so and so many non-combatants by the Axis powers and their collaborators.

Here's an article by the times of israel where they express their low-key anger at the silly notion of the holocaust having anything to do with any goyim suffering: https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember- ... istorians/

Remember, the Nazis euthanizing their own fellow Germans is already a separate event (Aktion T4), and the persecution of the Gypsies is, I believe, referred to as "Porajmos". This way the Jews have repeatedly made sure the holocaust is ONLY about their suffering.

[Stephen Cohen]

Spect3r wrote:

So we went from 6 million to 6 million + 5 million to now being 17 million???

Deitrich wrote:

I was monitoring the USHMM propaganda the other day and in a comment asking how 6 million - 3 million still equals 6 million (referring to the Auschwitz death toll lowering) - a Jewish respondent came back with...

"Because the actual number is 20 million..."

Ah yes, the big-lie technique.

The jews have it down, don't they?