"Our mothers,our fathers"New guilt-ridden propaganda on WW2

[Mkk]

Has anyone watched this series? From the trailers and mainstream media reports this is what I've gathered:

It's a 4 and a half hour long docu-drama recently put out by a German channel. The subject is WW2- yes - and it follows the fictional stories of 5 friends during the war. One is a Jew, two become soldiers and one becomes a nurse. It starts in 1941 and ends in 1945.

Atrocities include execution of a Russian commissar and a Jewish girl, and seemingly some other execution/violence scenes.

Sounds like the typical self-flagellating propaganda put out by Germany's rulers to denigrate the largely innocent "mothers and fathers" of the title. The brainwashing is so total that todays' Germans assume their parents are criminals, not ordinary people who fought fairly and bravely for the most part. IIRC Historians have analysed about 11,000 letters from Germans in Stalingrad between Dec 1942 and Feb 1943 - almost every one of them

[goomohn]

I tried to watch the first episode. No thrilling action. Every scene was about German guilt over the treatment of Jews. At one point it depicted the Ukrainian militia in a 1941 Smolensk (!) pogrom on Jews. Typical disgusting propaganda. Although it showed the Nationalist Socialist swastika I'm sure that was blurred out on German TV stations.

[Hektor]

Haven't seen it, but I see there are uploads on youtube. This may help with analysis.

[Hannover]

It's this hateful propaganda and those that make it that are big reasons why Revisionism exist. The work we have done has the hate mongering Marxist Jewish supremacists scared stiff. Their claims are untrue, and easily shown to be untrue. We know it and they know it. Hence we see more & more acts of desperate lying, increasingly desperate claims, and obviously desperate programming. The Big Lie technique run wild.

We need to emphasize the fact that the impossible 'holocaust' and the Zionist depictions of WWII are really nothing more than hate and racism. With the media dominated by Jewish supremacists they have heretofore managed to get away with it, but that is ending.

Never give in, never again.

The tide is turning.

- Hannover

[Barrington James]

Did the TV show mention that Kristallnacht was probably the first of the great false flags the Allies created....and are still creating? Did it mention Hitler's attempts at trying to prevent the war....Hess's flight to England...? Or Hitller's saving the lives of 300, 000 Allie soldiers at Dunkirk in his deperative attempt to arrive at peace? How about the fact that the Brits secretly started bombing Germany for six weeks before Hitler finally retaliated and bombed England....that Hilter never bombed Oxford, Cambridge...or that the Allies bombed Dresden and killed at least 250, 000 peope, mostly civilians ? Or what about the 1, 000 plane bombing raid on Tokyo after having already dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshiam and Nagasaki, and after Japan had signed the unconditioanl surrender ( it had not been ratified by the US at that time ) ? Did it metion that 15, 000 internees died in Bergen-Belsen after the British had liberated the camp, for the Brits could not stop the deaths of starvation and disease caused by the bombing of Germany any more than the Germans could ? Did it mention the murder, genocide, and removal of millions German Nationals throughout Eastern Europe , particularly but not restrcited to Eastern Prussia and the Baltics States, after the war? Or the murder of tens of thousands , if not hundreds of thousands, of young and old soldiers in Eisenhower`s death camps through Europe after the war ? Just wondering.

[Hektor]

Personally, I think one realistic movie on world war II from a German perspective will do !

[blacksmith]

Hi Barrington James,

You have hit the nail on the time and again in your remarks. So far nobody has this succinctly put the crimes that were perpetrated against the Germans. Two things you might have forgot to mention: one, the Poles had plans to attack the Germans and two, so did the Russians. Germany attacked both of those country in what is to-day called a preemptive attack for which the German general staff was executed; also incidentally German officers were executed for the massacres at Katyn.) I found it most interesting that none of the history books mention the fact that it was Churchill who came up with the idea of bombing the civilian population and as you state it, it took Hitler six months to give in to pressure from his military to retaliate in kind.

I would like to mention finally the heroism of the German navy and the rearguard troops in saving over 2 million people from East Prussia. There is a wonderful book, unfortunately only in German called: "Danziger Bucht" which tells the story of those battles. I am pleased to see that in my former country people are beginning to recognize the bravery of our soldiers and they have started to put up statues to them to the chagrin of the Jewish population. In contrast to that, the Austrias have started erecting statues and memorials to deserters from the German army. How come there are no statues of British deserters, who incidentally way out scored the German and Austria desertions.

Blacksmith

[blacksmith]

Hi Barrington James,

I should have mentioned apropos Bergen-Belsen the Canadian journalist, Doug Collins, who was actually at the liberation of Bergen-Belsen.
Doug was captured by the Germans and believe or not he escaped 10 times, unfortunately he got caught most of the time but in the end he managed to get to his unit. (He wrote a book about it). He also was a witness on behalf of Zundel at his Toronto trial. The man was a real gem, I am proud to have personally known him.

Blacksmith

[Barrington James]

Blacksmith...Thanks for your letter. There are a number of brave people who have told the truth about WW 2 and the Nazis.....As I see it, the Nazis made a pack with the devil , the Zionists, in their cooperating in first of all in blaming all the Jews of Germany and the world for the sins of the relative few Jews such as the Warburgs, the Rothschilds and other fantastically wealthy Jews who controlled so much of Germany.

[blacksmith]

Hey Barrington James,

You over simplified the Jewish problem a bit and where the Nazis made their mistakes - and there were a packet of them. The pact they made with the Zionists was to get the Jews out of Germany. While Hitler was obsess with the Jewish question, he was still sane enough to suggest that the final solution should be left till after the war. BTW the final solution was simply getting the Jews out of Germany, any where.

What the world forgets is that it was the Jews who started the boycott Germany way back in 1933. But even so, Hitler did not want to harm the Jews physically and he was quite upset about Kristallnacht. Also don't forget about 150,000 Jews were in the Wehrmacht and one of the top Luftwaffe Generals was the brilliant Milch.

On the other hand, the Jews with their vengeful ways wanted Germany totally wiped off the face of the earth. Read "Germany must perish". that book dragged out the war for an extra year as every German soldier from that point on was determined to defend his Vaterland.

From the moment the Germans signed the surrender, the allies bagn to brainwash the German people. Read the story of Zundel and Rudolf Germar. They both believe in the holocaust from the get go, but as they looked into they realized that it was just a huge Jewish swindle. There is hope for the younger generation though, look at the 15 year old girl who researched the holocaust, came to the conclusion that it was a lie and got an A for her effort.

Blacksmith

[Mkk]

I just heard that this TV show has been broadcast in Ireland with subtitles, so I assume it's coming to the UK sooner or later.

Has anybody watched the full show?

One thing that annoys me is that modern-day Germans apply political correctness to the time of war. An above user mentioned that a large part of one episode was devoted to guilt over the treatment of Jews, which is applying today's attitudes to wartime people who probably wouldn't feel such things. I've also seen it said that the series does not show the widespread German support for Hitler that continued into 1945.

[Barrington James]

Read Ingrid Weckert, Flash Point, and you will get some great clues about who wanted the Jews driven out of Germany more than the Nazis did. And then try to find out why the Zionists ruined the Jews lead world wide boycott of all German goods and services in 1933, which was certain to bring down Hitler in 1933, and thus saved Hitler in 1933....or read about the Transfer Agreement....and how the Nazis and Zionists to get as many German Jews to emigrate to Palestine from 1933 to 1945....

[Hektor]

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I would like to mention finally the heroism of the German navy and the rearguard troops in saving over 2 million people from East Prussia. There is a wonderful book, unfortunately only in German called: "Danziger Bucht" which tells the story of those battles. I am pleased to see that in my former country people are beginning to recognize the bravery of our soldiers and they have started to put up statues to them to the chagrin of the Jewish population. In contrast to that, the Austrias have started erecting statues and memorials to deserters from the German army. How come there are no statues of British deserters, who incidentally way out scored the German and Austria desertions.

Blacksmith

The Germans are so sick they now erect memorials to lynched bomber crews:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 102x780584

[blacksmith]

My German cousins could take a page from the Japanese Prime Ministers book who went to the shrine honouring their war dead. This proves it that the Germans were truly defeated in WW II but not the Japanese. As a person of Germanic background I feel deeply ashamed. May be one day they will wake up, let us all hope so, but as long as they are beaten down by the Jewish state I do not hold out much hope for them.

Blacksmith

[Mkk]

The Germans are so sick they now erect memorials to lynched bomber crews

These men had lives, family and children just like anyone else. Their sacrifice deserves commemoration the same as any other soldier in a war, surely? Especially considering that they were murdered.

I've personally been to the American, British and German cemeteries in Normandy. I'm glad that all sides of the conflict have their own respectful memorials to those who died.

That's a subject for another thread, though.