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alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby borjastick » 4 years 3 months ago (Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:02 am)

PURE EVIL Horrifying mass grave of 1,000 Jewish men, women and children shot in the head by Nazis unearthed at building site in Belarus
The Sun newspaper today - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8475906/h ... n-belarus/

So here's the thing, the Brest Ghetto in Belarus was apparently claimed to be one of those mass murder thingies of jews whereby the SS nasties came along and shot thousands and thousands of innocent jews.

So now they are building a new development of apartments and shops etc they unearth a mass grave, or so they claim, of jews all shot in the head.

Not sure how they know they are jews and how they know they were shot by SS troops.

Also odd that the local jewish community is demanding the jewish burial rights are observed. Are these the same rights as exist in Poland at Treblinka where they absolutely know 900,000 jews lie dead but won't excavate because of jewish burial rights that prohibit any dead jew from being moved??? Funny that because now these bones have been exposed in Belarus it's ok to have the re-buried. Maybe it's a thing where when bones are unearthed the jews immediately say they are jewish bones and claim the victim status and associated things that go along with it.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Hannover » 4 years 3 months ago (Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:47 am)

Yawn, yet another fraud, the typical bluff of just saying what they want with no verification, with no questions asked.
'Any human remains must be 'holocaust' remains'. What a load of crap they throw around

We see maybe four skulls and those are claimed to somehow mean 1000 murdered.
The skeletons of about 600 have been unearthed so far, with Belarus soldiers - deployed to undertake the macabre work - now locating the remains of some 40 people each day in the sinister burial place.
No they haven't or we would be seeing them 365/24/7.
In the video we see maybe four skulls with not a shred of proof that:

- they are WWII era remains
- they are Jews
- they were murdered
- they were murdered by Germans
- there is 1000

Previous mass graves were found in Brest in 1950 - when some 600 victims were re-buried at Trishinskoe cemetery, and in 1970 when 300 victims were re-interred at Proska cemetery.
Once again, we've seen nothing but absurd, unfounded claims, and in that case, communist claims. The communists were notorious for their mass executions that were later blamed on the Germans. Sites that have been excavated and shown, i.e.: Katyn

And what really jumps out is their revealing refusal to excavate sites likes these below, where millions of Jew remains are claimed to exist.

Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.
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Alleged “ash pond” for an alleged 1,100,000 Jew remains at Auschwitz, however these alleged remains cannot be shown to exist.
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Alleged location of Treblinka mass graves / remains of 900,000 Jews according to Treblinka officials, no alleged remains exist.
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Ponary site supposedly holds remains of 100,000 people : 70,000 Jews & 30,000 'others', which cannot be shown:
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- Hannover

No alleged human remains of millions to be seen in allegedly known locations, no 'holocaust'.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Hektor » 4 years 3 months ago (Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:14 pm)

borjastick wrote:
PURE EVIL Horrifying mass grave of 1,000 Jewish men, women and children shot in the head by Nazis unearthed at building site in Belarus
The Sun newspaper today ....
Not sure how they know they are jews and how they know they were shot by SS troops.
....


They've been wrong about this in the past:

A mass grave with the bodies of some 10-thousand people, apparently killed by the NKVD - the forerunner of the KGB - has been discovered in the Belorussian capital of Minsk.

Workmen laying water pipes stumbled across the find.

Judging by their clothes, many of the victims were Soviet Army soldiers, but there were also civilians, including women and children.

A 440-yard-long (400 metres) ditch holding the remains of thousands of people apparently executed by submachine guns, was discovered on the outskirts of the capital, Minsk.

Investigators found expensive crocodile handbags, an American fountain pen and Swiss watches in the grave, indicating that some of the victims may have been from other European countries.

It's thought they were shot in June and July 1941.

Soldiers of the Belarus army are continuing their search of the area, but the country doesn't have the funds to properly identify the bodies.

SOUNDBITE: (Russian)
"Here mostly, local people and prisoners of war and local Jews were executed. They were shot from the side of the hill."
SUPER CAPTION: Lt. Igor Karpovich, Belorussian Army

Although it was initially believed to be a Nazi war grave, excavators now think it could have been a Soviet concentration camp because many of the bodies were found with personal belongings

The Nazis were renowned for removing valuables from their victims.

There are reports that the President of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, may order the grave to be filled in the next two or three days.



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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby ASMarques » 4 years 2 months ago (Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:29 am)

As usual, widely different versions of just what has been unearthed, but little or no precise details, and in all probability no hope of future forensic examination. A couple of hints:

1) BBC NEWS:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47732043
"Dmitry Kaminsky, a Belarusian soldier running excavations said 'People were shot in the back of the head and all the bodies were lying face down. The Nazis dug ditches and people were shot, then fell; shot, then fell'."

2) REUTERS:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bela ... SKCN1QF24U
"Dmitry Kaminsky, a soldier leading the unit, said they had exhumed 730 bodies so far, (...) Some of the skulls bore bullet holes, he said, suggesting the victims had been executed by a shot to the back of the head."

It would be interesting to know exactly how many skulls -- not "remains", "bones" or "bodies" -- were found and how many of them bore bullet holes. All or just a few of them? Also to be taken in consideration, since what is today Belarus was an important part of the hinterland where the Partisan War (and indeed its often savage repression) took place and human remains unceremoniously dumped into common graves must be common:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 180971587/

"Kate Samuelson from Vice reports that callousness toward victims of the Holocaust in Brest is decades old. After the war, the Soviets sought to scrub the last vestiges of Jewish culture from the city, dismantling one of the largest Jewish cemeteries in the region to make way for a sports stadium. Locals recycled the headstones, using them in the foundations of houses, as paving stones and in gardens. As of 2014, 1,500 headstones had been found around the city, including 450 dug up during the construction of a supermarket. Many are being stored in the hopes that they could one day become part of a memorial."

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 2 months ago (Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:42 pm)

New updates: https://www.jns.org/female-skeleton-cra ... n-belarus/

Female skeleton cradling baby uncovered at Holocaust mass grave in Belarus

Despite Gov. Alexander Rogachuk saying, “We will not allow the building of anything on bones of people,” officials are moving ahead with plans to build a luxury apartment building complex at the site.

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(April 3, 2019 / JNS) A skeleton of a mother cradling her baby was uncovered at a mass grave in the Belarusian city of Brest that was discovered months ago, reported the BBC.

The remains of more than 1,000 Jews have been unearthed by Belarusian soldiers.

Despite Gov. Alexander Rogachuk saying, “We will not allow the building of anything on bones of people,” officials are moving ahead with plans to build a luxury apartment building complex at the site.

At least 28,000 Jews lived in the Brest ghetto between 1941 and 1942.

Some 17,000 people were known to have been shot in October 1942 near the Bronnaya Gora rail station, as thousands more were presumed to have been massacred.

Some 66 percent of Belarusian Jews perished in the Holocaust, according to American historian Lucy Dawidowicz in The War Against Jews.



And how do we know they were jewish? Has there been any DNA tests?

Millions of gentiles died in Europe during WWII, how do we know they are not gentiles? :?
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Hannover » 4 years 2 months ago (Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:33 pm)

(April 3, 2019 / JNS) A skeleton of a mother cradling her baby was uncovered at a mass grave in the Belarusian city of Brest that was discovered months ago, reported the BBC.

The remains of more than 1,000 Jews have been unearthed by Belarusian soldiers.

Despite Gov. Alexander Rogachuk saying, “We will not allow the building of anything on bones of people,” officials are moving ahead with plans to build a luxury apartment building complex at the site.

At least 28,000 Jews lived in the Brest ghetto between 1941 and 1942.

Some 17,000 people were known to have been shot in October 1942 near the Bronnaya Gora rail station, as thousands more were presumed to have been massacred.

Some 66 percent of Belarusian Jews perished in the Holocaust, according to American historian Lucy Dawidowicz in The War Against Jews.

"Cradling her baby"?
What a laughably pathetic appeal to emotion that is.
So why don't they show it?
We only see some bones of who knows who?
Who know where?
Who knows when?
Who knows how they died?
Who benefits?

"The remains of more than 1,000 Jews have been unearthed by Belarusian soldiers."?
So why don't they show them? Because they don't exist, that's why.
What proof says the non-existent remains are Jews? None. This is just more of the typical irrational, unhinged holocaust' BS.
Who benefits?

"Some 17,000 people were known to have been shot in October 1942 near the Bronnaya Gora rail station, as thousands more were presumed to have been massacred."
No they weren't
How do they now that?
Why don't we see the alleged remains? They claim to know exactly where they are.
Who presumes they were massacred? Why do they claim they were massacred?
Who benefits?

"Some 66 percent of Belarusian Jews perished in the Holocaust, according to American historian Lucy Dawidowicz in The War Against Jews."
Know they weren't.
There is no proof of such an absurdity.
Try looking for it.
Try to actually see the alleged massive human remains.
Why would anyone trust proven liar Lucy Davidowicz.
Who benefits?

Now try taking all that nonsense into a real court of law:

'We ask the court to believe us even though we cannot produce the proof that what we claim exists.
Trust us, we're Zionists.'


The spectators: :lol:

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No alleged human remains of millions to be seen in allegedly known locations, no 'holocaust'.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 2 months ago (Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:01 am)

- If these people were shot that means there are bullets there. These bullets could be analyzed and we could figure out who probably killed them. Germans made their own bullets, Soviets made their own bullets.

- the bullet to the back of the head is the same execution style used by the USSR at Katyn, although to be fair it seems to be common elsewhere in executions.

-DNA tests can be performed to determine the ethnicity of these people, of course. To be fair, Jews were apparently 40% or so of the population of Brest.

- There may have been anti-Jewish pogroms by the locals in this region; Just before the outbreak of World War II, there was an anti-Jewish riot at the bazaar in Brest on May 15, 1939.

- The NKVD/Checka was active in the area before the Germans took it over.

- The original article points out that there were victims also in the 1st World War (see below translation, bold/underline) - so how do they know for sure this was the Germans in WWII?




This seems to be the original article: https://virtualbrest.by/news63680.php

It is in Russian.

Google translate:
In Brest, the remains of about 600 people were found during construction.

The remains of about 600 people were found during construction in the center of Brest. The senior inspector of the department of culture of the city executive committee Alla Kondak reported this today at a meeting with representatives of the city’s Jewish community, BelTA has learned.

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The mass burial of World War II was found in January at the corner of Kuybyshev Street and Masherov Avenue, where the construction of a residential quarter began. While digging the excavation pit, the excavator lifted fragments of the remains to the surface. The construction work was suspended, the fighters of the 52nd separate specialized search battalion of the Ministry of Defense had arrived at the object of their arrival.

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During the occupation, the Brest ghetto was located there. "Every day for the past three weeks, 40 remains are being raised. At the moment, their number is approaching 600. As far as we know, there are two graves there. The first one is now finished, then the experts will move to the second. In this place, the number of remains is expected to increase to approximately 1 thousand people ", - said Alla Kondak. She added that very few personal belongings of the victims, shoes, coins are found in the ground.

The facility has 10 search engines of the Ministry of Defense. All assistance is provided by the investor, providing, if necessary, people, equipment. Specialists will excavate until all the remains are raised to the surface, stressed the city executive committee chairman Alexander Rogachuk. He met with representatives of the city’s Jewish community today to discuss plans to commemorate the victims of the war. "Due to the historical events of the twentieth century in the old part of Brest there are the graves of the First World War, victims of ghettos, aggressors. It is possible that this is not the last tragic discovery. We will not allow new construction on people's bones. We cannot allow speculation on this topic, although there is ", - said the mayor.

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Alexander Rogachuk added that all the remains will be raised to the surface and reburied according to traditions and religious canons. "With the representatives of the Jewish diaspora, we discussed a roadmap for further cooperation, what to do with the matsevs who are in our custody when the lapidary is built. As for the memorial at the Northern cemetery, then on my instruction, we will work out the appropriate architectural complex. victims of the ghetto, "- summed up the chairman of the city executive committee.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 1 month ago (Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:48 am)

Another article. Apparently there is a "City register" from Oct. 15, 1942 showing 17,000 Jews, and the figure was "scratched out" the next day, after there was an "order" to kill them all. :roll: None of these documents are provided.

Belarus to move forward with construction of apartments at site of Nazi-era mass grave

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Officials at a southwestern city in Belarus are forging ahead with plans to build a luxury apartment building complex despite finding a Nazi-era mass grave containing nearly 2,000 remains at the construction site.

The mass grave was discovered by construction workers in the city of Brest more than two months ago and since then, specially trained soldiers have unearthed the remains of hundreds of Jews, killed when the city was occupied by Nazi Germany.

It’s the site of the old Jewish ghetto in the city.

The bodies are tangled with the remains of shreds of cloth and the soles of shoes.

“You see the results of this horrible war and of a genocide,” the commander of the search battalion, Major Pavel Galetsky, told DW. “History speaks for itself here.”

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Soldiers from a special "search battalion" of Belarus Defence Ministry collect the remains of about 730 prisoners of a former Jewish ghetto, discovered in a mass grave at a construction site in the center of Brest, Belarus February 26, 2019. REUTERS/Vasily Fedosenko - RC1F95AFA340


One of the remains found was that of a female holding the skeleton of a baby, as if she’s been cradling it, the BBC reported.

Before World War II, almost half of the more than 50,000 population of Brest were Jews. Up to 5,000 men were executed shortly after the Nazis invaded in June 1941.

The rest was crammed into a ghetto only several blocks large surrounded by barbed wire.

In October 1942, an order from Nazi Germany came to wipe them out, the BBC reported.

Thousands were herded on to freight trains and were driven more than 60 miles to a forest and shot at the edge of a vast pit.

The city register kept by the Germans showed that on Oct. 15, 1942, there were 17,893 Jews in Brest, according to the BBC. The next day, that figure was scratched out.

"That's how we know when the ghetto was liquidated," community leader Efim Basin.

Only a handful of Jews in Brest survived the mass executions, DW reported.

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A soldier from a special "search battalion" of Belarus Defence Ministry takes part in the exhumation of a mass grave containing the remains of about 730 prisoners of a former Jewish ghetto, discovered at a construction site in the center of Brest, Belarus February 26, 2019. REUTERS/Vasily Fedosenko - RC1569C86700


Near the site of the old ghetto, a small marble stone is dedicated to the 34,000 Jews killed in around Brest during World War II.

For several weeks after the remains were discovered, it was unclear what would happen with the construction of the building complex, according to DW.

It seems that the planned apartment complex – a lucrative project for the city – will continue as planned.

Some, including the city’s head of the cultural department, believe that the city does not need another memorial, but it does need better apartments.
"There should be a place where people can live well, a nice corner of the city of Brest," Alla Kondak said.


The article links to this BBC article: https://archive.is/T7sHJ

It says in Oct 1942, the Nazis were ordered to kill all the Jews in Brest. So they were put on freight trains and sent 60 miles / 100km to a forest (Bronnaya Gora) where they were executed. Why transport them so far away just to be shot?
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This grave that was just found is alleged to be of the Jews who managed to hide during this first alleged execution.

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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Hannover » 4 years 1 month ago (Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:23 am)

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"Soldiers from a special "search battalion" of Belarus Defence Ministry collect the remains of about 730 prisoners of a former Jewish ghetto, discovered in a mass grave at a construction site in the center of Brest, Belarus February 26, 2019. REUTERS/Vasily Fedosenko - RC1F95AFA340"

Except we're shown only the remains of maybe ten.

1. There's no confirmation whatsoever these remains are of Jews.
Why?
2. There no confirmation of how they died.
Disease?
Legitimate executions of illegal terrorist 'partisans?
Executions by these terrorists?
Executions by the communist Soviets?
Why don't we see this confirmation?
3. There's no proof that these remains are from era alleged.
Lot's of people died before & after WWII in that region.
4. Who benefits from such unproven allegations?

Imagine trying this nonsense in yet another legitimate court of law:
'Your honor:
We know that seventeen thousand Jews were killed here, but we can only show the court the remains of about ten.
Well, we have no confirmation that these ten are Jews.
Uh, we cannot confirm that they were actually murdered.
Your honor, sorry, but we cannot confirm that they were murdered by the Germans.
Sorry, but we have not confirmed these ten were not legally executed for real crimes.
We ask for the court's indulgence, but we have not confirmed that they were actually murdered during the time period we allege.
Once again your honor, we have no proof that these were not victims of the notoriously ruthless Soviet NKVD, or communist partisans.

Your honor, you simply must trust us, we're Zionists.

People rolling with laughter in the aisles. :lol:

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Lamprecht » 4 years 1 month ago (Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:02 pm)

Hannover wrote:Image
"Soldiers from a special "search battalion" of Belarus Defence Ministry collect the remains of about 730 prisoners of a former Jewish ghetto, discovered in a mass grave at a construction site in the center of Brest, Belarus February 26, 2019. REUTERS/Vasily Fedosenko - RC1F95AFA340"

Except we're shown only the remains of maybe ten.


Which is more than what has been shown to exist at the Operation Reinhard(t) camps, where allegedly 2 million Jews were gassed and buried. Apparently, only 6 corpses have ever been proven to exist: http://www.nafcash.com/

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The real question now is this: why have more corpses been located in this mass grave than at all of the AR camps combined, where allegedly 100s of thousands of jews were buried in exactly known locations?

:bounce:
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby borjastick » 4 years 2 weeks ago (Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 am)

So now today on Sky News they are reporting the mass burial of these claimed Jewish victims of the holocaust.

https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-1- ... d-11726739

More than 1,200 Jewish Holocaust victims buried after mass grave discovered
Many of the skulls discovered in the mass grave had bullet holes in them, suggesting they had been executed by Nazi soldiers.


From the original story I posted it was claimed 1000 people had been found. Now today we hear they have bounced that figure up to 1200. Yet one needs to ask where is the proof???

Have you seen any proof that these people number 100 let alone 1200?

Have you seen any proof that these are jews?

Have you seen any proof these people were shot?

Have you seen any proof these bodies are those of executions?

Have you seen any proof these were shot by German soldiers?

No.

So here we have a claimed mass murder of jews which seems to have been accepted by the authorities because they can't be bothered to argue or question. Disgusting.
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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Hannover » 4 years 2 weeks ago (Thu May 23, 2019 12:57 pm)

From the article in bold:

- "Soldiers also found personal effects such as leather shoes that had not decomposed."

except:
'How long it takes for some everyday items to decompose?:'
https://www.down2earthmaterials.ie/2013 ... decompose/
Leather shoes: 25-40 years
Oops!

- "Some of the skulls they found had bullet holes, suggesting victims had been executed by a shot to the back of the head"

Just like shown below:
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caption: Ukraine –Sculls of victims of Stalinist repressions from a mass grave at Demyaniv Laz near Ivano-Frankivsk, western Ukraine. Human remains were found during excavations in 1989.

- "The remains were buried on Wednesday in 120 blue caskets embossed with the Star of David that were laid side-by-side and two-deep in a giant grave in a city cemetery.

IOW, a bone or two from each of the few skeletons of unproven circumstances were thrown into 120 staged 'coffins' for propaganda effect.

- "Nazi Germany occupied Belarus, then part of the Soviet Union, during the Second World War, killing tens of thousands of its Jews."

Except, just like the laughable & impossible 'gas chambers' claims, there is no proof whatsover for the "killing tens of thousands of its Jews in Belarus".
This is their best shot. LOL

No alleged human remains of millions in allegedly known locations to see, no 'holocaust'.

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby borjastick » 4 years 2 weeks ago (Thu May 23, 2019 1:34 pm)

And there's more...

We are regularly told that the 'Holocaust By Bullets' happened in hundreds of known locations. Locals and propagandists always tell any passing TV crew or investigative person that they know exactly where all these nearly 2m jews were shot in pits and or buried in local woods etc.

If that's the case this mass shooting, for that's what 1200 dead jews shot in the head would surely have been, would have been a well known local event with those who 'know' crawling out of the wood work at every opportunity since the end of the war and more so since the fall of the Wall. Yet this location seemingly passed everyone by. Notwithstanding this the jewish victimhood committee positively ran, at sub 10 second world record speed, to claim these deaths were definitely those of poor old jews who were holocaust victims.

As I said in my opening post on this matter, the same victimhood committee members had no issue with the bodies being dug up in full view of the goyim because the gain of yet more sympathetic free publicity for their special holocaust just couldn't be missed. Yet these same people never let anyone dig at Treblinka etc. Odd that, don't ya know.
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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby cold beer » 4 years 2 weeks ago (Fri May 24, 2019 12:04 am)

Hektor wrote:They've been wrong about this in the past:

A mass grave with the bodies of some 10-thousand people, apparently killed by the NKVD - the forerunner of the KGB - has been discovered in the Belorussian capital of Minsk.

Workmen laying water pipes stumbled across the find.

Judging by their clothes, many of the victims were Soviet Army soldiers, but there were also civilians, including women and children.

A 440-yard-long (400 metres) ditch holding the remains of thousands of people apparently executed by submachine guns, was discovered on the outskirts of the capital, Minsk.

Investigators found expensive crocodile handbags, an American fountain pen and Swiss watches in the grave, indicating that some of the victims may have been from other European countries.

It's thought they were shot in June and July 1941.

Soldiers of the Belarus army are continuing their search of the area, but the country doesn't have the funds to properly identify the bodies.

SOUNDBITE: (Russian)
"Here mostly, local people and prisoners of war and local Jews were executed. They were shot from the side of the hill."
SUPER CAPTION: Lt. Igor Karpovich, Belorussian Army

Although it was initially believed to be a Nazi war grave, excavators now think it could have been a Soviet concentration camp because many of the bodies were found with personal belongings

The Nazis were renowned for removing valuables from their victims.

There are reports that the President of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, may order the grave to be filled in the next two or three days.




EXCELLENT!
It would be even better if we could find those "initial reports" claiming the victims were jews murdered by the 'Nazis'.

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Re: alleged Mass grave of executed jews unearthed in Belarus

Postby Lamprecht » 3 years 9 months ago (Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 pm)

Karl Radl suggests that this mass grave is of Soviet origin, noting that the Soviet Union controlled the city of Brest from early October 1939 to late June 1941:
The 2019 ‘Holocaust Massacre Excavation’ at Brest
Belarus is an increasingly philo-Semitic state with ‘Holocaust Memorial Days’ (1) and increasing subservience to jewish screeching about so-called ‘anti-Semitism’. (2) It Is therefore not surprising that the Belarussian government – Europe’s last true autocracy and a relatively isolated state – has placed its soldiers at the beck and call of the international ‘Holocaust’ industry and begun excavating any large graves that could conceivably be labelled as ‘Holocaust’ victims and claiming they are such.

This can be seen the recent excavation in former Polish and now Belarussian city of Brest where to quote the BBC:

‘Since then, specially trained soldiers have unearthed the remains of more than 1,000 Jews, killed when the city of Brest was occupied by Nazi Germany.

"There are clear bullet holes in the skulls," says Dmitry Kaminsky.

[…]

Before World War Two, almost half the 50,000-strong population of Brest were Jews.

Up to 5,000 men were executed shortly after the German invasion in June 1941.

[…]

It's thought the grave discovered within the old ghetto includes those who managed to hide at first, only to be rooted out.’ (3)

So in essence it is being claimed that because the mass grave of more than 1,000 individuals was found inside the bounds of the old jewish ghetto – liquidated by the Germans in October 1942 – it therefore means that the bodies are those of jews killed by the Germans.

This is flawed thinking to say the least given that the Soviet Union controlled the city of Brest from early October 1939 to late June 1941, which is circa a year and nine months and we know that the Soviet NKVD engaged in killings and deportations of political enemies during this time in Soviet-occupied Poland with Brest almost certainly not being exempt. (4)

It is also perfectly possible that this could also be an execution carried out by the NVKD and/or SMERSH after the city’s re-occupation by the Red Army on 28th July 1944 as they are known to have carried out such actions in cities ‘liberated’ from the Third Reich. (5) In this latter case the victims are likely to not have been jewish and in the former then there is likely to be a mix of jews and non-jews.

The burial site within the site of the jewish ghetto – misleading referred to by the BBC as ‘the old ghetto’ suggesting it was a historic jewish site - is also not indicative given that the Brest ghetto was an arbitrary creation of the German authorities in 1941 not some historic jewish entity or area that the Germans just took advantage of. The simple fact is that the Germans only had possession for circa three years and the Soviet Union under Stalin’s murderous rule had possession for over ten years. So who is more likely to have shot people en masse?

The Germans who apparently had no known records of this atrocity (6) while the Soviet Union refused to even look for mass graves and covered up rumours of a mass killing? (7)

Despite non-evidenced assertions that this was the work of the Germans; the reality is that without significant evidence suggesting that are indeed jews and were specifically shot by the Germans. It is far more likely that these are non-jews – or a mix of jews and non-jews – who were shot by the NKVD and/or SMERSH.


References

(1) https://eng.belta.by/society/view/belar ... 7845-2019/
(2) For example: http://www.dw.com/en/anti-semitism-live ... a-39243007 https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/crim ... 795789002/
(3) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47732043 also see https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/04/02/s ... n-belarus/
(4) Lukasz Kaminski, 2010, ‘Stalinism in Poland, 1944-1956’, pp. 78-79 in Kevin McDermott, Matthew Stibbe (Eds.), 2010, ‘Stalinist Terror in Eastern Europe: Elite Purges and Mass Repression’, Manchester University Press: Manchester
(5) Ibid, p. 80
(6) https://abcnews.go.com/International/10 ... d=62163657
(7) Ibid; https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47732043 https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/04/02/s ... n-belarus/
http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.co ... ation.html or https://archive.is/pdv9u
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...


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