The dispute over Auschwitz death figures (1990 JTA article)

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The dispute over Auschwitz death figures (1990 JTA article)

Postby Archie » 2 years 2 months ago (Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:42 pm)

The downward revision in the Auschwitz death figures in 1990 is very well-known among revisionists. But I wanted to share an article I saw in the JTA archives from around this time that talks a bit about this controversy over the Auschwitz numbers. It's dated March 6, 1990. I believe this was shortly before the Auschwitz plaque was changed.
https://www.jta.org/1990/03/06/archive/new-list-of-holocaust-victims-reignites-dispute-over-figures

Recent political developments in Eastern Europe have drawn back the iron curtain of secrecy that for 40 years concealed knowledge of Nazi concentration camps.

One result has been that newly available documents from the Soviet Union listing thousands of names of victims of the Holocaust has reignited the historical controversy over an accurate estimate of the total number of Jews killed in the Holocaust.

In West Germany, the Red Cross last week completed a month long project of putting on microfilm 46 bound volumes from Auschwitz called “Sterbebuch,” or “death books,” which contain detailed data of about 70,000 prisoners who perished in the Polish death camp.

A full page in the death books was devoted to each victim listed, complete with an SS doctor’s certification of the cause of death and the exact hour and minute of expiration.

I believe the 70,000 in the Auschwitz "death books" is for years 1942 and 1943. The other years are missing.
Certain documents, however, were submitted as evidence during the Nuremberg Trials in 1945, and a number of official government offices have had access to the Auschwitz books.

The Office of Special Investigations, for example, has had access to the Auschwitz records for 10 years. “We have used such materials in our prosecutions,” an OSI source said. “We’re thrilled that these records are available to scholars now.”

I hadn't heard this, although it makes sense given how the OSI used to make use of Soviet/KGB evidence, as they did with Demjanjuk.
But the availability of the records for scholarly appraisal has reopened the longstanding controversy among Holocaust historians over the 6 million figure long accepted as the estimated number of Jews killed during the Holocaust.

“I think the number (of Jews killed) must be higher than 6 million,” Dr. Shmuel Krakovski, Yad Vashem’s chief archivist, was quoted as saying Monday in the New York Post.

In light of the new information made available by the Auschwitz death books, he estimated that the number of Holocaust victims could rise by 500,000.

This comment is simply extraordinary. When it talked about the controversy over the six million, I thought they were going to argue why it's still a defensible figure. But then this top Yad Vashem guy says that he thinks the figures should be revised up to 6.5 million. And he's trying to use the death books as the rationale for this. This sort of "boldness" is very typical with the Holocaust. I think what's mostly going on here is that they know most of the public doesn't know the significance of the death books. So they want to pretend like this is a great boon to their side and is yet more proof of the Holocaust. Similar thing with the Kola study.

Incidentally, this Shmuel Krakowski (the way his name is usually spelled) is mostly known among revisionists for having once said that many of the testimonies on file at Yad Vashem are unreliable.
But according to Raoul Hilberg, John G. McCullough Professor of Political Science at the University of Vermont and an eminent historian of the Holocaust, such estimates are “ludicrous. Krakovski doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”

“We know that Jews were not registered if they went to the gas chamber, so these books document only a small minority of those killed.”

Hilberg estimates that the number of Jews killed at Auschwitz is probably closer to 1 million, rather than the 4 million commonly cited--2.5 million Jewish victims and 1.5 million others.

This estimate is in concurrence with that of Yehuda Bauer, the director of the division of Holocaust studies at the Hebrew University’s Institute of Contemporary Jewry in Jerusalem. In a Sept. 27 article in the Jerusalem Post, Bauer estimated the Jewish death toll at Auschwitz to be 1.35 million.

“There is a proclivity to insist that there were 6 million killed” in the Holocaust “because that’s what was said in 1945,” says Hilberg. “People don’t want to let go. But these numbers were calculated quickly and inaccurately at the time.” He estimates the total number of Jewish victims of the Holocaust to be around 5.1 million.

Hilberg, to his credit, is not willing to go along with this stupidity. Hilberg's 1961 book is actually fairly restrained compared to some others. Lower death totals, skeptical about the soap, etc. And I think after his brush with the revisionists, he was even more circumspect, although never willing to reconsider his core position.

Bauer's 1.35M is still pretty high.
But there was one inmate at Auschwitz who claims to have kept an accurate count. Rudolf Vrba, a professor of pharmacology at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, was a Jewish prisoner at Auschwitz whose job was to count the number of people arriving each day by transport.

Vrba managed to escape from the death camp in April 1944. His estimates of the number of Jews killed at Auschwitz were used as key testimony during the Eichmann trials.

“Hilberg’s estimate of 1 million killed is a gross error bordering on ignorance,” says Vrba. “According to my observations, there were 1,765,000 victims which I counted.”

Vrba estimates the total number killed in Auschwitz at roughly 2.5 million, bringing the total Holocaust death toll closer to 7.5 million.

“Yehuda Bauer simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but with his impressive title, he thinks he can throw around the figures without doing any research. Hilberg and Bauer just don’t know enough about the history of Auschwitz or the Einsatzgruppen,” Vrba says.

Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wies-enthal Center in Los Angeles, sounded a word of caution. “We have to be very careful that statistics added on account of the death books are not counted twice. We have to carefully analyze how the 6 million figure came up. In a time when revisionism is prevalent, we have to be very careful about reassessing the question (of how many Jews died).”

The IHR probably should have given Rudolf Vrba some kind of lifetime achievement award for most subversive holocaust promoter. The 1,765,000 million in the WRB report was only for a two year period ending in April of 1944. One thing that I found interesting in Vrba's testimony at the Zundel trial is that he was very insistent on the accuracy of his numbers. He argued on the stand that Hoess's numbers corroborated his own.

The Wiesenthal Center seems to be trying to tell people to cool it with the crazy numbers.

There's really no good solution for them with this. The most important Auschwitz accounts, Vrba/WRB, the Hoess confession, the Soviet report, these all give very high numbers. When they go with lower numbers, this is more reasonable on the one hand, but they undermine the credibility of their foundational texts.

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Re: The dispute over Auschwitz death figures (1990 JTA article)

Postby Hannover » 2 years 2 months ago (Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:39 am)

Archie:
Here are more examples of the Auschwitz figures from a long series compiled by the late Dr. Robert Faurisson as previously posted at search.php?keywords=farce&t=12451&sf=msgonly :
9,000,000 persons
according to the documentary film Nuit et Brouillard (Night and Fog, 1955), whose historical advisers were the historians Henri Michel and Olga Wormser-Migot.

8,000,000 persons
according to the French War Crime Research Office and the French War Crime Information Service (1945).

7,000,000 persons
according to Raphaël Feigelson (1945).

6,000,000 Jews
according to Tibère Kremer, writer of a foreword for Miklos Nyiszli (1951).

5,000,000 to 5,500,000 persons
according to Bernard Czardybon (1945), according to confessions attributed to some SS members and according to the newspaper Le Monde (1978) that added: "of whom 90% Jews".

4,500,000 persons
according to Henryk Mandelbaum (1945).

4,000,000 persons
according to a Soviet document of which the Nuremberg tribunal took "judicial notice". This figure was inscribed nineteen times, with a commentary in as many different languages, on the Auschwitz-Birkenau monument. It was repeated by many different authors, including the Polish historian Franciszek Piper, ex-curator of the Auschwitz Museum. Then, it was declared false in 1990 and replaced on the monument, in 1995, by the figure of 1,500,000 with the concurrence of the same F. Piper for whom this figure is a maximum, while the minimum figure is 1,100,000. According to Miriam Novitch (1967), of the 4,000,000 dead, 2,700,000 were Jewish. According to Rabbi Moshe Weiss (1991), more than 4,000,000 persons died at Auchwitz, of whom 3,000,000 were Jews.

3,500,000 persons
according to the Dictionnaire de la langue française published by Hachette (1991). According to Claude Lanzmann (1980), there were 3,500,000 gassed of whom 95% of Jews as well as many other deaths.

3,000,000 persons
until December 1st, 1943, according to a confession extorted from Rudolf Höss, ex-Commander of Auschwitz.

3,000,000 Jews gassed
according to David Susskind (1986) and according to Heritage, the most important Californian Jewish weekly (1993).

2,500,000 persons
according to Rudolf Vrba for the Eichmann trial (1961).

2,000,000 (?) to 4,000,000 (?)
according to the historian Yehuda Bauer (1982).

2,000,000 to 3,000,000 Jews killed as well as thousands of non-Jews
according to a confession attributed to an SS named Pery Broad.

2,000,000 to 2,500,000 persons killed
according to a confession attributed to an SS physician, Dr. Friedrich Entress (1945).

2,000,000 persons
according to the historian Léon Poliakov (1951); according to the historian Georges Wellers (1973) and according to the woman historian Lucy Davidowicz (1975).

1,600,000 persons
according to the historian Yehuda Bauer (1989), of whom 1,352,980 Jews (the latter figure is from Georges Wellers, 1983).

1,500,000 persons
this figure, chosen by Lech Walesa, replaced, in 1995, on the Birkenau monument, the previous one of 4,000,000, withdrawn in 1990.

1,471,595 persons
of whom 1,352,980 Jews, according to the historian Georges Wellers (1983).

1,250,000 persons or so
of whom 1,000,000 Jews killed and more than 250,000 non-Jews dead, according to the historian Raul Hilberg.

1,100,000 to 1,500,000 persons
according to the historians Yisrael Gutman, Michael Berenbaum and Franciszek Piper (1994).

1,000,000 persons
according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1989) and the Dictionnaire des noms propres published by Hachette (1992).

800,000 to 900,000 persons
according to the historian Gerald Reitlinger (1953).

775,000 to 800,000 persons
according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1993), of whom 630,000 were gassed Jews.

630,000 to 710,000 persons
according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1994), of whom from 470,000 to 550,000 were gassed Jews.

Please note that although in his "spontaneous" confession (with the help of "alcohol and the whip", as he himself put it) camp Commandant Rudolf Hoess, the so-called "proud technician", claimed 3.000.000, very few apparently take notice or believe him...

And we therefore reach the last generation of figures (no pun intended) with Jean-Claude Pressac who pointed out a figure of 775.000 in 1993. However, he lowered the total number to 630.000 victims -- only "470.000 to 550.000" of which Jews -- in 1994.

Of course, as soon as 08.01.1948, Welt im Film (British newsreel, nbr. 137) was indicating a figure of 300.000, but more recently it was revealed that the mortuary books (Sterbebücher) which had been kept during the war by the Auschwitz camp authorities exist at least from 27.07.1941 to 31.12.1943.

Since the camp was opened in 20.05.1940 and evacuated in 18.01.1945, that period represents a little more than half the duration of the camp's existence under German authority. The books, as released after more than 40 years, thanks in part to the Zundel trials of 1985 and 1988, appear to include approximately 69,000 names.

Also consider the International Red Cross archives at Arolsen, always closed to revisionists.
Can the archives of an organisation like the IRC be trusted, since neither individual "Holocaust scholars" nor the media appear to remotely know what they are talking about? Here is the figure then (17.08.1994):
-- International Red Cross at Arolsen: 66.206
Dept. of Holocaust investigations (Ref. nbr: 10824).
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