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"Holocaust by Bullets: Uncovering the Reality of Genocide"

Postby phdnm » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:23 am)

United Nations Department of Public Information, in partnership
with Yahad-In Unum, is pleased to invite you to

“The Holocaust by Bullets:
Uncovering the Reality of Genocide”


Wednesday, 7 November 2012
6:30 p.m. - 8:30 p.m.
ECOSOC Chamber, Temporary North Lawn Building (UNHQ NY)




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Father Patrick Desbois with an eyewitness who can identify unmarked mass graves in Moldova. Photo: Aleksey Kosyanov.

Yahad-In Unum is the leading research organization investigating mass executions and collecting evidence of more than 2.2 million Jews and Roma killed in Eastern Europe between 1941 and 1944. To date, YIU has identified over 800 extermination sites and recorded the testimony of more than 3000 eyewitnesses to these crimes Belarus, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia and Ukraine.

This event, organized by the Holocaust and the United Nations Outreach Programme in New York, will highlight Yahad-In Unum’s work and action by the international community to help prevent genocide today.

Opening Statement: Peter Launsky-Tieffenthal, United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Communications and Public Information, and Ambassador Martin Briens, Deputy Permanent Representative and Chargé d’Affairs of France to the United Nations.


Speakers:
  • Father Patrick Desbois, Catholic priest and President of the association “Yahad-In Unum”
  • Paul Shapiro, Director of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum’s Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies
  • Karen Odaba Mosoti, International Lawyer, Head of the Liaison Office of the International Criminal Court to the United Nations in New York
  • Gillian Kitley, Senior Political Affairs Officer, Office of the Special Adviser to the United Nations Secretary-General on the Prevention of Genocide
The discussion will be moderated by Pamela Falk, CBS News - United Nations Resident Correspondent

The Holocaust and the United Nations Outreach Programme







Robert FAURISSON




The myth of the Nazi gas chambers was in such a bad way that a substitute or simulation had to be found. The “mass graves in the Ukraine” will do the trick for the time being, at least on the media level. But these alleged “mass graves” have not been dug open and never will be! Our hoaxers will have to be taken at their word. And so we’re being given the gas chamber deal all over again: no evidence and nothing but hair-raising tales in the style of Filip Müller or Shlomo Venezia.



The people claiming to have discovered the “mass graves” have not, in reality, carried out any excavations, hence no inventory of remains, no verification, forensic studies or physical or material certifications of the standard, compulsory kind made in the inquest following the discovery, anywhere, of even a single corpse or skeleton. No police or justice official has been to any of the sites to do any examination whatsoever. Credence will have to be lent to the statements of representatives of two Jewish associations who presume to tell us that if those procedures, albeit normal and routine ones, haven’t been followed, it’s because the Jewish religion forbids such “desecration” of Jewish bodies!



These associations have merely gone about gathering “testimonies” which, afterwards, they’ve sorted through in line with criteria not revealed to the trusting public, but which are known to all the specialists of the “comm.-biz” and “story-telling” (the art of “getting up a good story” as, for example, when the neo-cons want to launch a war). Ukrainian villagers, mustered for the occasion, are filmed giving their accounts from which, subsequently, only choice bits will be picked in order to obtain tidy, well-formatted narratives (good stories to tell), neat disposal being made of any contradictions or precise points that might be checked on and thus, possibly, refuted. In the spectacle of this “witness parade” the viewer-voyeur will not learn anything real but will be bathed in the emotion, the anger, the whining and the horror of vaudeville-hall monstrosities and Dracula stories: a real Jacuzzi of comfort. He’ll enjoy the gentle warmth of a mixture of hatred and goodness, deftly blended. He’ll hate those Nazi “bastards” capable of senseless exploits of evil and, simultaneously, he’ll feel suffused with a particular goodness, the goodness felt in feeling oneself to be good, not all alone off to one side, where your goodness is liable to go unnoticed, but good together with others, lots of others, amidst a community whose members all admire each other and pat themselves on the back for being so good and compassion-laden. From his emotion Jacuzzi, the viewer-voyeur will gaze at the TV screen and find the usual fare, what his psyche has grown accustomed to. He won’t want any other. Above all, the menu of the Shoah soap opera mustn’t vary. Always the same camera shots, the same colours, the same hackneyed expressions and the same refrains of the propaganda of war and hatred. A drug! People want it and ask for more. Take care not to disappoint the customers! They’ve become addicted. The dose is going to need strengthening: we’ve got to out-match Claude Lanzmann.



But, coming back to those alleged “mass graves”, how is the value of testimony to be assessed if the material reality of the facts hasn’t been established beforehand? How will it be determined whether, at such or such place, so much as a single corpse lies buried? How will the number of victims be set? How can it be affirmed that they were Jews? And Jews killed by the Germans? The mere fact that, apparently, spent German cartridges are to be found in the vicinity of the supposed location of a supposed mass grave proves nothing. Who’s going to prove to us that those cartridges were found at that spot? And isn’t the land of Russia and the Ukraine littered all over with used bullets from the German, Soviet and other armies’ weapons? Actually, it has been proved by real investigations, diggings and forensic studies that the 4,410 Polish officers duly ascertained to have been executed, with a bullet to the back of the head, by the Soviets in Katyn forest in 1940 were all killed with bullets supplied by the German war industry to the Soviet Union within the framework of the Germano-Soviet pact. Have there not, these last few years in Russia and the Ukraine, been uncovered a number of common graves which, after scientific examination, all prove to contain victims of the Tcheka, the NKVD and the NKGB, except for a few containing the remains of men of Napoleon’s army, the study of which, nearly two centuries after their burial, has established that they died of typhus?



Some months ago, in a long private interview, Professor Robert Faurisson had the occasion to bring up the myth which, today more than ever, can be seen developing round the Einsatzgruppen, Babi Yar and the “Holocaust by bullets in the Ukraine”, thanks in particular to Father Patrick Desbois, that friend of Elie Wiesel, of the late Cardinal Lustiger and of Mgr Vingt-Trois. Below is a passage from that interview where, after clarifying a few things about the Einsatzgruppen andBabi Yar, the professor went on to speak about Patrick Desbois.



These days, in the Ukraine, there’s a Roman Catholic priest who’s been getting a lot of attention, father Patrick Desbois, a Frenchman and great friend of the Jews. His speciality consists in travelling the length and breadth of the land in search of “mass Jewish graves”. He has the good Ukrainian peasants of a given area informed that he’ll soon be calling at such or such locale and that he intends to garner testimonies about the slaughters of Jews by the Germans during the war. It’s wholly in the inhabitants’ interest to be able to boast that the environs actually possess such mass graves over which, afterwards, may be erected monuments that may in turn attract the odd foreign tourist. The “witnesses” get together and prepare a story. The priest then pays his visit and has his photograph taken with the country-folk as they point towards some spot or other. One may, to begin with, be astonished at the age of certain witnesses photographed thus far: they are quite plainly below the necessary age, which would normally be about 80. But there’s something more astonishing still: these supposed mass graves will not be dug open; no disinterment or any material verification will be carried out, all under the admirable pretence that the Jewish religion prohibits the touching of Jewish corpses; however, it’s enough to look in the Encyclopedia Judaica (1978) at the entry “Autopsies [plural] and Dissection [singular]” to see that there is no such prohibition at all. Only at a single location, Busk outside Lvov, have fifteen common graves been dug open, but none of the skeletons found there were examined and the sites were all covered over with a thick layer of concrete, meaning no authentication will be very possible in future! A curious way of respecting a body in accordance with Jewish law! The historian will thus have to be satisfied with what father Desbois, a clever man, tells us the witnesses told him. Hence, unverified numbers of unfound and unshown victims will be added up and, at the end, we shall be told that the Ukraine contains so many mass graves with so many Jewish victims. And all this under the seal of the respective representatives of the Roman Catholic Church, the “Yahad-in-Unum” association and “Zaka”, a group presenting itself as “dedicated individuals determined […] to accord the proper respect for the dead in accordance with Jewish law, heritage and tradition”. As at Auschwitz, tourism will stand some chance of thriving.



We’ve been told that Professor Faurisson himself has visited the exhibition at the Mémorial de la Shoah in Paris on the “Mass shootings of Jews in Ukraine 1941-1944 / The Holocaust by bullets”, and that he caused some anxiety by asking a woman in charge the simplest of questions: “How is it known that there are mass Jewish graves there?” He was unable to get any answer. Perhaps the question can be put to Father Desbois, who’s now busy giving courses at the Sorbonne on his “mass graves”. Holocaust here, Holocaust there! Decidedly, “There’s no business like Shoah business”. Father Patrick isone hell of a prankster!

November 30, 2007

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Re: "The Holocaust by Bullets: Uncovering the Reality of Gen

Postby borjastick » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:01 am)

By getting UN sponsorship of this discussion/debate/presentation they are now seeking to take the holohoax in a different direction. This event will be for the great and the good only. No normal person will be admitted and should anyone have the temerity to ask an awkward question they will be bundled away.

Media will pick this up and even if they don't immediately due to the US Presidential election being center stage the holocaust management and marketing team will seek media channels through which to publicise this 'further proof of mass murder of Jews'.

I find it pure irony of the bare faced cheek variety that the Jews and Israel will happily take support from the UN in this context, but absolutely ignore the UN Resolutions against them for all the land grabbing, settlement developments and maltreatment of the poor Palestinians. Bigots, liars, cheats and thieves. A pox on all their houses!!
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Postby borjastick » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:35 am)

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/201 ... solutions/

This web site above shows all the UN Resolutions against Israel They number about 80, yes 80. I am no expert but I guess they have complied with none of them. The date range is interesting too. The first was in September 1948, yes folks just months after Israel was formed they were committing ethnic cleansing against the true owners of the land called Palestine. The latest, at least by this list, is Jan 2009. So at the very minimum they have been consistent!

For those who fail to see the connection between this comment and the Holocaust/Revisionism look no further than the summation of various Israeli leaders' comments below the list. It is quite breathtaking that a religous group of people who claim to have been the victims of genocide and extermination can act in the very same way towards the indiginous population of a land they were given/stole.
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Postby borjastick » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:10 am)

Just a thought.

Pamela Falk is on twitter. Send her a tweet @PamelaFalk.

Why don't we all ask her questions to table at this Holocaust Genocide By Bullets event, like could she ask Father Debois where is the physical evidence to back up his claims? Where exactly are these many mass graves that he claims proves his thesis? How many mass graves have actually been excavated and what was found? Why has no evidence been published including photo or film?

If enough of us Tweet her, with gusto, maybe she might feel some heat to ask rather difficult questions of the main characters.
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:57 am)

This 'holocaust' by bullets switcheroo is the epitomy of a sham, Desbois is nothing less than a charlatan. This topic, summarized nicely by phdnm, has been thoroughly refuted.

Father Patrick Desbois with an eyewitness who can identify unmarked mass graves in Moldova.
So everyone is supposed to believe this senile old lady? Imagine trying this in a legit murder trial. And more important, the first thing the court would order would be an excavation.
And of course, 'eyewitnesses' to witchcraft undoubtedly could identify the exact place of their witchcraft experience.

- Hannover
Hannover wrote:embarrassing Ukraine graves tale but no graves / phoney pix
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4375

Father Patrick Desbois' "Holocaust by Bullets"
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5410

French Catholic Priests travels to the Ukraine
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5193

It's commonly stated that a total of 2,000,000 Jews were supposedly shot into massive pits by the einsatzgruppen. So, is that:

- 100 graves of 20,000?
- 200 graves of 10,000?
- 400 graves of 5,000?
- 500 graves of 4,000?
- 1000 graves of 2000?
- 2000 graves of 1000?

The cash seeking 'holocau$t' Industry cannot show us a single 'holocaust' mass grave as alleged, not one.

for more see:
'Einsatzgruppen Reports'
viewtopic.php?t=4312

'Jaeger Report'
viewtopic.php?t=4248

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:14 pm)

And then the excuse that so called "Jewish law" (Yes, we are all supposed to obey and bow down to "Jewish law") prevents excavations/ exhumations is an outright lie. Have a look of this post from another thread.

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Hannover wrote:Some clarification is needed here. The 'Jewish burial laws' meme is simply not true, see:

'The Big Excuse: 'excavation & exhumation of Jews forbidden'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6817&p=49373
excerpts:
http://www.israelburials.com/
DO YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONES WANT TO BE BURIED IN ISRAEL?

Achuzat Kever helps Jewish families, worldwide, bring their loved ones to their final resting place in Israel. We also arrange exhumations anywhere in the world for the purpose of transferring the mortal remains to Israel.
English speaking, we take care of everything from reserving a burial plot, transport of casket to Israel, officiating at funeral service, arrangement and 'perpetual' care of tombstone.
Full information, with pictures and plans of cemeteries available.
Reserve a plot anywhere in the Holy Land — Jerusalem, Beit Shemesh, Haifa, Zfat, etc.
Fair, affordable prices — protecting your interests in bringing the cost of funerals within reach of everyone.
Based in Israel, we deal with all local issues, making it easier for families at the time of their loss.
If required, we will arrange kaddish to be recited for the mandatory period.
Someone to turn to 24 hours a day.
Under constant Rabbinic supervision.

Perpetual Care
Approved by Hagoan Rav Chaim P. Scheinberg (shlita).

http://israel.usembassy.gov/disposition.html

G. Exhumation of Remains:
In accordance with Israeli health regulations, remains of persons of the Jewish faith may be disinterred a year from the date of burial. There is no law prohibiting disinterment of remains of persons of other faiths at any given time, provided that the Ministry of Health is in agreement. Exhumation must be performed in the presence of a representative of the Israeli Ministry of Health.
The Ministry of Health, having given the necessary permission for exhumation of remains, must also obtain the consent of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel for exhumation of the remains of persons of the Jewish faith. For exhumation of the remains of persons of the Muslim faith, the consent of the Islamic High Council is needed, and for exhumation of persons of the Christian faith a Church consent is required. The Jewish Burial Society is responsible for exhumation of remains. Remains that are to be shipped out of Israel may require embalming, depending on the stage of decomposition.
Exhumation related charges are as follows:
Ministry of Health – Certificate of Consent and presence of representative at exhumation: $250.00
Exhumation fee $1,500 - $2,000
Approximate freight charges to the U.S. $1,500 - $2,000

and:
''Jewish law prevents opening mass graves' debunked'
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6477&p=46441
excerpt:
Jewish burial laws/concerns? Not true either: In 2010 a whole area of the former Sachsenhausen sub-camp Lieberose near Jamlitz was dug up, looking for the graves of 753 Jews allegedly murdered there. A Rabbi was present, giving his blessings to the excavations. The whole site was turned upside-down, no regards for any burial laws, but nothing was found.[19] This shows that when it is expected that the diggings will be successful, graves found, Jewish laws are bypassed, the law only enforced in places were it is known that no graves exist.


So, there is no excuse for not digging, well, except the human remains as alleged are not there and Jewish supremacists really don't want the goyim to realize that.

In order to maintain the '6M & gas chambers' as official "fact", laws have been, and more will be, passed making scrutiny of the impossible claims a prison offense. So far that has not worked. It merely creates more interest in Revisionism.

Belief in witchcraft, with all it's "eyewitnesses & testimony", faltered; so will the 'holocaust' religion.

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Postby borjastick » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:07 pm)

Well I hope everyone is Tweeting the lady then. I did.
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Postby Hektor » 1 decade 7 months ago (Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:14 pm)

borjastick wrote:By getting UN sponsorship of this discussion/debate/presentation they are now seeking to take the holohoax in a different direction. This event will be for the great and the good only. No normal person will be admitted and should anyone have the temerity to ask an awkward question they will be bundled away.
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... Not the trick being used. Repeatedly discussing the issue in order to make people believe there is something of substance to the issue.

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Postby phdnm » 8 years 1 month ago (Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:19 am)

Latest news

The prankster is back on the news :mrgreen:

Desbois' team does not excavate the sites because Orthodox Judaism prohibits disturbing the grave. In addition to the interviews, they look for ballistic evidence, such as bullet shells, and jewelry. They do not mark the grave, for fear of grave robbers.


Come on... It's time to find a better excuse!



Milwaukee group to help research massacre of Jews in Poland


April 19, 2015

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In this July 16, 2007, file photo French priest Patrick Desbois (front) and members of his team walk to what used to be a well where many Jews were thrown dead or still alive, in Bogdanivka, Ukraine.



They are gruesomely documented, the horrors visited on the 6 million Jews killed in the concentration camps and gas chambers of Nazi Germany.

A lesser known piece of that macabre history is the estimated 2 million or more who died, often slowly and agonizingly, one bullet at a time, at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen, the Ordnungspolizei and others.

These were the Order Police and Nazi mobile killing units that rounded up Jews, Roma and others in the towns and villages across Eastern Europe, herding them into pits, executing them and often burying them alive.

A French Catholic priest, the Rev. Patrick Desbois, has spent the last 15 years combing archives and interviewing witnesses to document these largely unknown massacres.

Now Milwaukee's Jewish community has raised $150,000 to finance a Yahad-In Unum research expedition near Krakow, Poland. And a group of about 20 will travel there in September to honor the dead.

"Father Desbois is one of my personal heroes," said Hannah Rosenthal, president and CEO of the Milwaukee Jewish Federation, which is organizing the delegation and co-sponsoring a Tuesday lecture by Desbois at Marquette University.

"He is an incredible priest, who has made it his life's work ... his mission, to find the mass graves of murdered Jews — and by the way he has also found mass graves of Roma — which nobody knows were there," she said. "He's a remarkable man."

Desbois is founder and president of the Paris-based Yahad-In Unum — meaning "together," or "one," in Hebrew and Latin — which has mounted almost 100 expeditions in eight countries, including Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Poland and Romania.

He stumbled onto the work while tracing the history of his own grandfather, who was deported to a Soviet camp in Ukraine during the war. While visiting the village where his grandfather was interned, Desbois discovered that 18,000 Jews had been killed there.

"It took three, four years to find the graves," Desbois said in a telephone interview from Los Angeles, where he gave a lecture last week. "Nobody wanted to speak."

Since the group's founding in 2004, Desbois' teams have interviewed more than 4,000 eyewitnesses and located about 1,700 extermination sites containing the remains of 1.3 million Jews — from the grave of a starving family of four, including the father who begged the SS soldiers to end their misery, to a vast killing field in northern Odessa that is believed to hold 45,000 dead.

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Anatoly Veliminchuk (left) speaks in 2007 with Desbois about the massacre of tens of thousands Jews he witnessed in the early years of the war in Bogdanivka, Ukraine.


They cross-reference German and Soviet archives. (Soviets tended to document locations, and Germans details about the killers.) And they build a file with maps for each village. Once there, they go door-to-door looking for witnesses.

The videos of interviews are gut-wrenching: elderly people speaking through translators, often for the first time, recounting the incomprehensible carnage. In one, filmed in Ukraine, a man breaks down, remembering the children who died there.

"I can't tell," he says, as he composes himself, and then goes on. "The children, thrown into the pit by hand."

In another, an elderly woman wipes the tears from her eyes.

"Passing in front of the church," she says, "somebody screamed, 'Holy church, save us!'

"It was a torture, an incredible horror," she says. "God save us. The Jews were our friends."

Desbois' team does not excavate the sites because Orthodox Judaism prohibits disturbing the grave. In addition to the interviews, they look for ballistic evidence, such as bullet shells, and jewelry. They do not mark the grave, for fear of grave robbers.

Yahad-In Unum's work is as much about the future as it is the past, said Desbois. The Nazi murders, which often left no trace, were "the model for the modern genocide" that has continued to plague the planet into the 21st century, in Iraq, Darfur, Syria, Kenya and elsewhere.

"You cannot build a democracy on mass graves," said Desbois, author of the 2009 book "The Holocaust by Bullets: A Priest's Journey to Uncover the Truth Behind the Murder of 1.5 Million Jews" — a number he has since revised.

"We are trying to train a new generation to prevent this disease of genocide," he said.

Rosenthal met Desbois during her tenure at the U.S. State Department, where she served as special envoy to monitor and combat anti-Semitism before joining the federation in 2012. The State Department honored him in 2011, and a photo from that ceremony graces a bookshelf in her Prospect Ave. office.

"I always wanted, especially after coming to Milwaukee, to find a way to hire him to do the research, to find out where Jews were rounded up and murdered, and we would go and dedicate that sacred ground," she said.

The Milwaukee gift will finance a 17-day expedition in villages near Krakow, according to Desbois.

During the September visit, which is being billed as a week of remembrance and renewal, the Milwaukee delegation will say the mourner's Kaddish, the Jewish prayers for the dead, at the yet-unknown grave site. They will go on to visit Auschwitz and other sites, and then unveil a 17-foot sculpture of a shofar by Milwaukee-area artist Richard Edelman in the old Jewish quarter of Krakow.

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A 17-foot stainless steel sculpture of a shofar by Milwaukee-area artist Richard Edelman will be installed in the old quarter of Krakow during a visit by a delegation from Milwaukee's Jewish community in September.


Among those planning to go is Nancy Kennedy Barnett, whose father was born in Budapest and lost most of his family. She grew up scanning the gaunt faces in photographs from the Holocaust looking for anyone who looked like her.

"You never know whose grave we're going to find. It could be my grandparents' ... or other relatives," Barnett said. "And if it isn't my family's, it could be their neighbors. It's important to be a witness to this."


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Postby borjastick » 8 years 1 month ago (Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:13 am)

''and by the way he has also found mass graves of Roma — which nobody knows were there," she said. "He's a remarkable man."


Really? Where are these graves and how on earth would he know the bodies are those of Roma? Indeed without excavation and forensics how would he know the ethnic or social background of any bodies in any grave?

This is just a scam for him to raise large sums of money from gullible holocaust jew believers to fund his hobby and lifestyle.

He stumbled onto the work while tracing the history of his own grandfather, who was deported to a Soviet camp in Ukraine during the war. While visiting the village where his grandfather was interned, Desbois discovered that 18,000 Jews had been killed there.

"It took three, four years to find the graves," Desbois said in a telephone interview from Los Angeles, where he gave a lecture last week. "Nobody wanted to speak."


Notice the disconnect in the logic and claim? First he says he had 'discovered' that 18,000 jews had been killed. By using the word 'discovered' it suggests a fact, something without doubt. But then immediately he said it took years to find the graves. Why? If someone had told him about this mass slaughter of jews they would have told him where to look, it would be a matter of fact and ingrained in local folklore. One grave of 18,000 or say ten graves with an average of 1800, it matters not because they would be huge. He cannot reveal the locations, not because of fear of grave robbers (they would have been there many years ago matey), but because they don't exist. Simple.
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Postby hermod » 8 years 1 month ago (Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:07 pm)

phdnm wrote:
Milwaukee group to help research massacre of Jews in Poland


April 19, 2015

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In this July 16, 2007, file photo French priest Patrick Desbois (front) and members of his team walk to what used to be a well where many Jews were thrown dead or still alive, in Bogdanivka, Ukraine.


Do Jewish burial laws also forbid it to investigate wells, Father? Or are you just incredibly lazy? Does Yahveh hate speleology as much as he hates archeology? :roll:

Father Desbois ' testimonial 'evidence' are always a good laugh. Who doesn't know a drunkard or a compulsive liar who would tell anything for two pints or a parcel of your attention? Farcical 'research'...
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Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925

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Postby CHoutle » 3 years 7 months ago (Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:00 pm)

Yahad-In Unum is the leading research organization investigating mass executions and collecting evidence of more than 2.2 million Jews and Roma killed in Eastern Europe between 1941 and 1944. To date, YIU has identified over 800 extermination sites and recorded the testimony of more than 3000 eyewitnesses to these crimes Belarus, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Russia and Ukraine.


2.2 million jews and Roma killed at over 800 extermination sites?

Really? If you look here:

https://yahadmap.org/#map/

it says the "Total number of documented execution sites" is 1,666.

Are they making some kind of distinction between "extermination" sites and "execution" sites? Or are they claiming that they have found that many more (2 X) sites since this thread was started? If that is so, then it would be reasonable to assume the number of dead jews and Roma found would be 2 X as well right?

Just how many graves are these frauds claiming to have located?

And I noticed a few things in looking at that sham site. Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka are not included. So that would be an additional 2 + million jews added to the "more than 2.2 million Jews and Roma" figure quoted above.

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Re: "Holocaust by Bullets: Uncovering the Reality of Genocide"

Postby CHoutle » 3 years 7 months ago (Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:41 am)

LOL! Check out this "holocaust by bullets" vid from a 12-18-14 NBC news broadcast:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Ho ... &FORM=VIRE

Brian Williams:

It's a story of a kind of invisible part of the holocaust where more than a million jews simply disappeaered.


Ah yes, the "magically disappearing jew theory"!

:lol:


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