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Re: Hitler Quote ? - 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech

Postby Lamprecht » 3 years 4 months ago (Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:30 pm)

Someone referenced this quote in a debate on another website, here are a few examples of revisionists addressing this Reichstag speech as evidence of premeditated mass murder of the Jews.

From Juergen Graf:
d. Hitler Quotation as ‘Proof’ for the Mass Murder

As do other proponents of the orthodox picture of the ‘Holocaust,’ Hilberg interprets statements by Adolf Hitler in which he threatens the Jews with “annihilation” (Vernichtung) or “extermination” (Ausrottung) as proof that such a thing really happened. He quotes (on p. 425; DEJ, p. 407) a Hitler speech of 30th September 1942 in which the Reichschancellor stated as follows:26

“In my Reichstag speech of September 1, 1939, I have spoken of two things: first, that now that the war has been forced upon us, no array of weapons and no passage of time will bring us to defeat, and second, that if Jewry should plot another world war to exterminate [zur Ausrottung] the Aryan peoples of Europe, it would not be the Aryan peoples which would be exterminated, [ausgerottet] but Jewry. […] At one time, the Jews of Germany laughed about my prophecies. I do not know whether they are still laughing or whether they have already lost all desire to laugh. But right now I can only repeat: they will stop laughing everywhere, and I shall be right also in that prophecy.”

It needs to be noted that a warlike way of speaking was characteristic of the National Socialists, who before coming to power had to prevail against their adversaries on the extreme left in countless clashes in meeting rooms and streets. It should also be remembered that wild threats against an enemy in wartime are common. But the important point is a semantic one. In present usage, ausrotten means only ‘to physically liquidate,’ but formerly the word – whose etymology is ‘uproot’ – had a broader meaning. Thus in Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler wrote the following on conditions in the Danube Monarchy before the First World War:27

“Immense were the burdens which the German people were expected to bear, inconceivable their sacrifices in taxes and blood, and yet anyone who was not totally blind was bound to recognize that all this would be in vain. What pained us most was the fact that this entire system was morally whitewashed by the alliance with Germany, with the result that the slow extermination [Ausrottung] of Germandom in the old monarchy was in a certain sense sanctioned by Germany itself.”

Now Hitler certainly did not mean to say that old Kaiser Franz Josef planned to gas or shoot all the German Austrians, but rather that they ran the danger of losing their power to the Slavs. Ausrotten clearly possessed the meaning ‘deprive of power, rob of influence.’

The reader should also remember that on 1st September 1939 Hitler criticized the Jews for wanting to let loose a world war for the “elimination of the Aryan peoples” (Ausrottung der arischen Völker). It cannot be seriously contended that he meant to say the Jews intended the eradication of the entire population of Europe root and branch. Here again “Ausrottung” means ‘subjection’ or ‘deprivation of power.’ This meaning applies to all such endlessly repeated Hitler quotations in the ‘Holocaust’ literature.

[26] Völkischer Beobachter, 30th September 1942.

[27] Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Franz Eher Verlag, Munich 1933, pp. 13f.
The Giant With Feet of Clay—Raul Hilberg and his Standard Work on the ‘Holocaust’
https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=3
PDF: http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/03-tgwfoc.pdf
TXT: http://archive.is/dimQR


From an exterminationist source:
The most widely known quotation from Hitler’s public orations is taken from his speech in the German Reichstag on 30 January 1939. Referring to the Jewish question, it contains the macabre prophecy: “Today I will be once more a prophet: if the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevizing of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!” This statement has been taken as evidence that in early 1939 Hitler already intended to exploit the conditions of a future war to annihilate the Jews, at least those under German rule.
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The notion that Hitler’s speech of 30 January 1939 constitutes incontrovertible evidence of his intention to eventually solve the Jewish question by the use of violence has repeatedly been assessed in the literature. In the context in which it was made, however, it rather indicates that at that time Hitler did not perceive any other solution than the enforced emigration of the Jewish population, including resurrecting the idea of settling the Jews in Madagascar, a suggestion that had been raised again by the Polish side. As the conversation with Pirow shows, Hitler was not interested in the details and tended to react to concrete proposals in a rather dilatory fashion.
Hitler's Reichstag Speech of 30 January 1939. Hans Mommsen. History and Memory. Volume 9, Issue 1/2. Fall 1997. http://archive.is/z2Umi or http://web.archive.org/web/202001181737 ... uary-1939/


Another explanation of this prophecy, from "Auschwitz Lies":
3.6. “Ausrottung” and “Vernichtung”

As “convergent proofs” of the reality of the Holocaust, the authors go on to produce the usual array of quotations from major NS officials in which the evidence is said to be the use of terms like “vernichten” or “Vernichtung” (annihilate or annihilation) and “ausrotten” or “Ausrottung” (exterminate or extermination).

The authors devote a particular section (“The Ausrotten of the Jews,” p. 205) to an attempt at proving that these terms, which were part of the violent NS rhetoric, did in fact mean physical extermination.

As is well known, the official historiography’s traditional starting point of such fallacious interpretations is an extrapolation of Hitler’s so-called “prophecy” in his speech of January 30, 1939:[624]

“I shall again make myself a prophet today: If the international Jewish financiers, inside or outside of Europe, were to be able to push the peoples once more into a world war, the result will not be the bolshevization of the Earth and, hence, the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.”

No one among those bold extrapolators ever quotes the lines that follow and that clearly explain the terms of this threat:167

“[…] for the time in which the non-Jewish peoples were defenseless in the face of propaganda is coming to an end. National Socialist Germany and fascist Italy possess the institutions which will allow, if necessary, to explain to the world the essence of a question, of which many people are instinctively aware, but which is still unclear to them in scientific terms.”

Thus, the “annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe” consisted simply in “educating” the other peoples by spreading the “scientific knowledge” about the “Jewish question” which those German and fascist institutions had compiled.

In his speech of January 30, 1941, Hitler said:[625]

“I will not forget the indication I have given once before to the German Reichstag, on 1st September 1939 [actually on January 30, 1939]. The indication that, if the rest of the world were to be plunged by Jewry into a general war, entire Jewry will have finished the role they have been playing in Europe.”

Thus, if the Jews were no longer able to play their role in Europe, the “Vernichtung” announced in 1939 was nothing but an “annihilation” of their political, economic and cultural influence.

This interpretation is confirmed by Hitler’s words used in his speech at the Berlin Sportpalast of January 30, 1942:[626]

“We realize that this war can only end like this: either the Aryan peoples will be exterminated (ausgerottet werden) or Jewry will vanish from Europe (das Judentum aus Europa verschwindet). On September 1, 1939 [actually, on 30 January 1939], I have told the German Reichstag once before – and I shy away from risky prophecies – that this war will not end the way the Jews think, that is with the Aryan peoples of Europe being exterminated (ausgerottet werden), but that the result of this war will be the annihilation of Jewry (die Vernichtung des Judentums). […] And the day will come when the worst enemy of mankind will have finished his role, perhaps at least for a thousand years.”

Does this mean that Hitler literally believed the “Aryan peoples” would be physically annihilated in case the war was lost?

This quotation confirms, moreover, that the “Vernichtung” of the Jewish race in Europe in the speech of January 30, 1939, was not physical extermination, because here the text speaks of a Jewry that vanishes “from Europe” in case of victory. This, together with the end of the political role of the Jews in Europe, can only be explained by the plans to deport the Jews into the occupied eastern territories, which were considered to be outside of Europe.

On February 24, 1942, Hitler came back to this topic. After having asserted that the “plot” (Verschwörung) of the plutocrats and the Kremlin was aimed at one and the same objective – “the extermination (die Ausrottung) of the Aryan peoples and races,” Hitler says:[627]

“Today, the ideas of our National Socialist revolution and those of fascism have conquered large and powerful states, and my prophecy will be fulfilled that this war will not bring about the annihilation of Aryan mankind – it is the Jew who will be exterminated.”

In his notes, Henry Picker writes for July 21, 1942:[628]

“[…] because – Hitler envisioning to have thrown the Jews out of Europe down to the last man at the end of the present war – the communist danger from the east would then have been exterminated root and branch.”

This figurative meaning of the verb “ausrotten” and of the associated noun appears also in the speech of September 30, 1942, in which Hitler said:[629]

“On September 1, 1939 [actually, on January 30, 1939], I said two things during the session of the Reichstag. First of all […] and, secondly, if Jewry were to provoke an international world war for the extermination (zur Ausrottung) of the Aryan peoples of Europe, not these Aryan peoples of Europe would be exterminated (ausgerottet werden) but Jewry.”

In his speech on November 8, 1942, Hitler paraphrased his “prophecy” of January 30, 1939, in the following manner:[630]

“You will remember the Reichstag session in which I declared: If Jewry has the illusion of being able to provoke an international world war with the aim of the extermination (zur Ausrottung) of the European races, the result will be not the extermination (die Ausrottung) of the European races, but the extermination (die Ausrottung) of Jewry in Europe!”

Hitler went on again to explain the meaning of this “Ausrottung”: the awareness of the Jewish peril by the European peoples and the introduction, in those nations, of an anti-Jewish legislation modeled on the German one:173

“In Europe, this danger has been recognized and the nations are adhering one by one to our legislation.”

Finally, in his speech of February 24, 1943, Hitler declared:[631]

“This fight, therefore, will not end – as it is intended – with the annihilation (mit der Vernichtung) of the Aryan [part of] mankind but with the extermination (mit der Ausrottung) of Jewry in Europe.”

Here we even have the perfect equivalence of the terms “Vernichtung” and “Ausrottung” with both being applied to the European peoples.

To summarize: Either Hitler believed in a physical extermination not only of the German but of all European peoples (!) in the event of a German defeat – a decidedly improbable assumption – or else he was using the terms “Vernichtung” and “Ausrottung” in the figurative sense also when applied to Jewry, which is patently obvious when we look at the various quotations and their context.

And that this is indeed the correct interpretation – if we still need a further confirmation – is stated explicitly by an orthodox historian beyond suspicion, Joseph Billig, former researcher at the Paris Center for Contemporary Jewish Documentation:[632]

“The term ‘Vernichtung’ (annihilation, destruction) referred to the absolutely negative attitude towards a Jewish presence in the Reich. Being absolute, this attitude embraced the readiness, if necessary, to go to extreme ends. The term in question did not mean that one had already reached the stage of an extermination nor did it signify that there was a deliberate intention to arrive there.

A few days before the speech quoted [the speech of January 30, 1939], Hitler received the Foreign Minister of Czechoslovakia. He reproached his guest for the lack of energy on the part of the Prague government in its efforts to reach an understanding with the Reich and recommended to him, in particular, energetic measures against the Jews.

In this regard, he declared for example: ‘Over here, they are being annihilated’ (bei uns werden sie vernichtet). Are we to believe that, during a diplomatic conversation, which would be recorded in the archives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Hitler would have confidentially alluded to a massacre in the Third Reich – which, moreover, would have been incorrect for that moment in time?

Two years later, on January 30, 1941, Hitler returned to his ‘prophecy’ of 1939. But this time, he explained the meaning as follows: ‘… and I do not wish to forget the indication I have given once before in the Reichstag, namely that if the rest of the world (die andere Welt) is driven into a war, Jewry will have completely ended its role in Europe…’

In his conversation with the Czechoslovak minister, Hitler mentioned England and the United States which, in his opinion, would be in a position to offer regions suitable for Jewish settlers.

In January of 1941 he stated that the role of the Jews in Europe would come to an end and added that this would come about because the other European peoples would understand this need for their own countries. At that time, one believed in the creation of a Jewish reserve. But for Hitler such a reserve was acceptable only outside of Europe. [Thus] we have just noted that, on January 30, 1941, Hitler did nothing but announce the liquidation of the role of the Jews in Europe.”
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[624] Max Domarus, Hitler Reden und Proklamationen 1932-1945, R. Löwit, Wiesbaden 1973, vol II, second part, p. 1058: “sondern die Vernichtung der jüdischen Rasse in Europa.”
[625] Ibid., p. 1663: “das gesamte Judentum seine Rolle in Europa ausgespielt haben wird!”
[626] Ibid., pp. 1828f.
[627] Ibid., p. 1844: “nicht die arische Menschheit vernichtet, sondern der Jude ausgerottet wird.”
[628] H. Picker, Hitlers Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier, Wilhelm Goldmann Verlag, Munich 1981, p. 449: “Denn – da er [Hitler] mit Beendigung dieses Krieges auch den letzten Juden aus Europa hinausgeworfen haben werde – wäre dann die kommunistische Gefahr aus dem Osten mit Stumpf und Stiel ausgerottet.”
[629] Max Domarus, op. cit. (note 624), p. 1920.
[630] Ibid., p. 1937.
[631] Ibid., p. 1992.
[632] Joseph Billig, La solution finale de la question juive, Klarsfeld, Paris 1977, p. 51.
Auschwitz Lies. Legends, Lies, and Prejudices on the Holocaust
https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=18
PDF: https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/18-al.pdf


Mattogno, in his book on Rudolf Hoess:
5. The Motive for the Extermination Order

Why did Hitler order the extermination of the Jews? Höss did not have the slightest idea, so he repeated a stale story: Himmler had told him that, if the Germans did not exterminate the Jews, they would exterminate the Germans (interrogation of April 1, 1946, statements to Gilbert). The vacuity of this explanation is apparent from what he told Goldensohn:

“‘Not justified – but Himmler told me that if the Jews were not exterminated at that time, then the German people would be exterminated for all time by the Jews.’ How could the Jews exterminate the Germans? ‘I don’t know, that is what Himmler said. Himmler didn’t explain.’ Don’t you have a mind or opinion of your own? ‘Yes, but when Himmler told us something, it was so correct and natural we just blindly obeyed it.’.”

This moronic justification was clearly taken from Hitler’s “prophecy,” at the time known to all. During Hitler’s speech at the Sportpalast on January 30, 1942, he stated (Domarus, Vol. II/2, pp. 1828f.):

“With this we realize that the war can end only with either the extermination of the Aryan peoples or with Jewry disappearing from Europe. Already on September 1, 1939 [recte: January 30, 1939] I expressed in the German Reichstag […] that this war will not end the way the Jews imagine it to, namely by the Euopean-Aryan peoples being exterminated, but rather the result of this war will be the destruction of Jewry.”

In his speech on November 8, 1942, Hitler paraphrased his “prophecy” of January 30, 1939 (ibid., p. 1937):

“You will still remember the session of the Reichstag when I declared: If Jewry deludes itself to be able to trigger an international world war for the extermination of the European races, then the result will not be the extermination of the European races, but rather the extermination of Jewry from Europe.”

In this context, the affirmation had its internal logic, as the “extermination” or “destruction” meant the end of the political role of either the European peoples or Jewry: if the latter would win the war, the European nations would find themselves under the power of “Judeo-Plutocracy” and Bolshevism.

Detached from this context, Hitler’s statement becomes meaningless.
Commandant of Auschwitz—Rudolf Höss, His Torture and His Forced Confessions
https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=35
PDF: http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/35-coa.pdf
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Hitler Quote ? - 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech

Postby Hannover » 3 years 4 months ago (Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:49 pm)

The mentioned Raul Hilberg can't even keep his story straight:
“we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”

- so called "holocaust historian" Raul Hilberg

- Hannover

suggested reading :
War-time German documents & writings mentioning the "Final Solution":
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12296

Why do some people want '6M Jews & 5M others' to be dead? Revisionists bring them life affirming good news, '6M Jews & 5M others' were not murdered. Everyone should be elated.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Hitler Quote ? - 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech

Postby Lamprecht » 3 years 4 months ago (Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:43 pm)

Hannover wrote:The mentioned Raul Hilberg can't even keep his story straight:
“we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”

- so called "holocaust historian" Raul Hilberg

- Hannover

suggested reading :
War-time German documents & writings mentioning the "Final Solution":
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12296

Why do some people want '6M Jews & 5M others' to be dead? Revisionists bring them life affirming good news, '6M Jews & 5M others' were not murdered. Everyone should be elated.

They don't have a coherent, agreed upon narrative. Some claim that Hitler was promising to exterminate the Jews long before WWII ever broke out. Others state that was a slow and gradual development where "Final Solution" changed from deportation/resettlement to mass extermination.

As shown in the link you posted, the documents tell a different story.

Jewish historian Deborah Lipstadt explains:
"Intentionalists contend that Hitler came to power intending to murder the Jews and instituted an unbroken and coherent set of policies directed at realizing that goal. In contrast, functionalists argue that the Nazi decision to murder the Jews did not originate with a single Hitler decision, but evolved in an incremental and improvised fashion."
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
— Herbert Spencer


NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Hitler Quote ? - 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech

Postby Hektor » 3 years 4 months ago (Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:39 pm)

rahulkghosh wrote:I was reading through http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/ ... cJewQn.htm

One quote that caught my eye was:

"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! "

I looked at the source and saw "Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals - Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1949-1953, Vol XIII, p. 131"

Anyone have any comments about the validity of any of the quotes?

The quote is verifiable, it's even on record:
https://footage.framepool.com/en/shot/1 ... a-dictator
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Adolf_Hi ... nuary_1939)
The translation isn't verbatim, but actually not really distorting the meaning.

The German text goes as follows:
Ich will heute wieder ein Prophet sein: Wenn es dem internationalen Finanzjudentum in und außerhalb Europas gelingen sollte, die Völker noch einmal in einen Weltkrieg zu stürzen, dann wird das Ergebnis nicht die Bolschewisierung der Erde und damit der Sieg des Judentums sein, sondern die Vernichtung der jüdischen Rasse in Europa....
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaste ... .01.30.htm


Does that love quote mining from Hitler speeches to create a certain impression do however use that excerpt and leave other important parts of the speech out. E.g. the immediate part after that quote is quite explanatory to what he means. There is another important excerpt as well, shortly before yours:
Es kann sehr wohl möglich sein, daß über diesem Problem früher oder später eine Einigung in Europa selbst zwischen solchen Nationen stattfindet, die sonst nicht so leicht den Weg zueinander finden würden. Die Welt hat Siedlungsraum genügend, es muß aber endgültig mit der Meinung gebrochen werden, als sei das jüdische Volk vom lieben Gott eben dazu bestimmt, in einem gewissen Prozentsatz Nutznießer am Körper und an der produktiven Arbeit anderer Völker zu sein. Das Judentum wird sich genau so einer soliden aufbauenden Tätigkeit anpassen müssen, wie es andere Völker auch tun, oder es wird früher oder später einer Krise von unvorstellbarem Ausmaße erliegen.

translated as:
I believe the earlier this problem is resolved, the better. For Europe cannot find peace before it has dealt properly with the Jewish question.

It is possible that the necessity of resolving this problem sooner or later should bring about agreement in Europe, even between nations which otherwise might not have reconciled themselves as readily with one another. There is more than enough room for settlement on this earth. All we need to do is put an end to the prevailing assumption that the Dear Lord chose the Jewish people to be the beneficiaries of a certain percentage of the productive capacities of other peoples’ bodies and their labors. Either the Jews will have to adjust to constructive, respectable activities, such as other people are already engaged in, or, sooner or later, they will succumb to a crisis of yet inconceivable proportions.


Hence Hitler makes it clear that he wants to solve the Jewish question via resettlement.


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