hermod wrote:Thanks for this correction, Black Rabbit. The document posted by Hannover is so small that I had mistakenly assumed, without being certain, that it was another version of the same document.
Yeah, understandable. When I originally posted that document taken from
Hitler's Professors, it was big enough to read clearly and the discussion was about the 16 December 1941 document. So, I can't see why it was even posted on this thread.
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?p=73907#p73907These are, once again, different documents; although of the same and both from Kube to Loshe.
The one from LS's blog is a famous document used at Nuremberg: 3428-PS
DOCUMENT 3428-PS
REPORT BY KUBE, COMMISSIONER GENERAL FOR WHITE RUTHENIA, TO LOHSE, REICH COMMISSIONER FOR THE EASTERN TERRITORIES, 31 JULY 1942 (FOUND IN THE BUILDING OF THE MINISTRY FOR THE EAST IN BERLIN): IN THE DISTRICT-GENERAL OF WHITE RUTHENIA, 55,000 JEWS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN 10 WEEKS; MORE MASS MURDERS ARE PLANNED, EXCEPTIONS BEING MADE TEMPORARILY ONLY IN THE CASE OF JEWS WORKING FOR THE WEHRMACHT (EXHIBIT USA-827)
- IMT v.32, p.279f; original German
TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT 3428-PS
PROSECUTION EXHIBIT III
SECRET MEMORANDUM FROM KUBE, GENERAL COMMISSIONER OF WHITE RUTHENIA, TO GAULEITER LOHSE, REICH COMMISSIONER OF OSTLAND, 31 JULY 1942, CONCERNING ACTIONS AGAINST PARTISANS AND LIQUIDATION OF JEWS IN WHITE RUTHENIA
- NMT v.4 p.191f; English trans.
The other document is a telegram that Mattogno found in Moscow.
Fom his Treblinka study, p.278:
Finally, the arrival of at least one transport from the Warsaw Ghetto at a location east of Treblinka has been documented beyond any question. On 31 July 1942, the Reichskommissar for White Russia, Wilhelm Kube, sent a telegram to the Reichskommissar for the Ostland, Heinrich Lohse, in which he protested the dispatching of a transport of “1,000 Jews from Warsaw to work at Minsk,” because this would lead to danger of epidemics and an increase in partisan activity. [840]
840. GARF, 7445-2-145, p. 80. Cf. Document 22 in the Appendix.
From his response to HC [although here Mattogno dates it 01.08.42; the date it is stamped]:
What he [Kube] did insist on – and which is also made clear in the 1 August 1942 telegram – was that further transports to Generalkommissariat Weissruthenien of Jews “from the Generalgouvernement or from elsewhere” organized by agencies of the German army and air force without prior allowance or announcement from the Reichskommissar Ostland were to be liquidated. In the above-mentioned telegram the subject of the protest is described as “further independent import of Jews” (“weiterer selbständiger Judeneinfuhr”) and it is also spoken of the “danger of epidemics” (Seuchengefahr).[1393] It is obvious from the phrasing used by Kube that he would not protest the arrival of Jewish transports if they were approved and announced by higher authority.
1393. GARF 7445-2-145, p. 80.
He was responding to this from HC:
On July 31, 1942, Kube protested to Lohse about the arrival of 1,000 Warsaw Jews in Minsk and insisted that further transports from the General Government would be liquidated.[110] This was at a time when many deported Reich Jews were in transit ghettos in the General Government.
M&G perversely interpret Kube’s protest as supporting resettlement but they do this by citing an alternative document from the same date in which the threat to liquidate the Jews was apparently omitted.[111]
[110] Kube an Lohse, 31.7.42, 3428-PS, IMT XXXII, pp.279-82, also facsimiled in Weinreich, Hitler's Professors, pp.188-190.
[111] M&G, Treblinka, p.278.
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/belzec-sobibor-treblinka-holocaust_3084.html