When the USSR invaded Poland, Britain was silent

[Barrington James]

Munich is important because, again, it provides the context for the UK's declaration of war. The Munich Agreement had specifically stipulated that the Sudetenland would be the final territorial demand that Hitler would make. Then, not only did Hitler march into Prague and dismantle Czechoslovakia. THat wasn't in the agreement, and even then, the UK did not declare war. Even after demands were made for Memel and Danzig, it was hoped that a peaceful resolution could be found, at least by Chamberlain, if not the rest of his cabinet.

Further, the UK never guaranteed Poland's security against the USSR — only against Germany. See the secret protocol, which was agreed upon by Poland: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement ... ndon_(1939)

Hitler did not " march " into Czechoslovakia" . That nonsensical creation of the Treaty of Versailles was about to break into a civil war and the warring sides had asked him to police their country....It finally broke apart quietly a few years ago after purging the nearly four million German Nationals out of the country after the war...

[TonyB]

Nuziders,

At perhaps the highest of levels, you completely miss out on the over-riding context, which is that the allies were hellbent on a war with Germany and so (of course) needed a pretext.

For goodness sakes, the Soviet regime by this time had murdered tens of millions of its own people, had ritually murdered the Romanovs, and advanced the idea that communism should be global. Meanwhile, the controlled governments and media of the west seriously tempered Soviet atrocities from the people.

To miss the over-riding context is to miss everything.

International Jewry could not allow a Germany to exist. It HAD to be eviscerated.

[Mkk]

Tony,

which is that the allies were hellbent on a war with Germany

Can we please have some evidence of that?

From examining the years of the 1930s, I think that the UK (cannot speak for the policy of France) more or less bended over backwards to accommodate every German demand, until they started to use out and out military aggression against Poland. This is known as the policy of appeasement.

Even with Poland, the UK gave Germany 2 days to withdraw from the country and stop its aggression.

[TonyB]

Hey MKK,

Bent over backwards???

Would you share your sense of the history around the Danzig Corridor?

Busy now, but I will say that my present sense of history on this matter is 180 degrees antithetical to your own.


Tony

[Barrington James]

Tony...Read "Conjuring Hitler" by Guido Giacomo Preparta's. In this well documented book he tells of the enormous plotting the Brits and the Yanks did to create WW1 to destroy Germany and and to cripple Russia forever. But it didn't quite work out that way. So , true to form , they created Hitler, created his Germany and then trapped him into another war to this time turn Germany into the puppet system that it is today. Needlessly to say Great Britain was betrayed by the Americans. The Americans quickly built up their puppet system of Germany ( and Japan) , and Great Britain was no longer great. What went wrong? And may I add that the US then continued with its 100 year old rampage to become the world's only super power....but that has proven harder to do than the US had thought it would be.

[Barrington James]

Tony...Read "Conjuring Hitler" by Guido Giacomo Preparta's. In this well documented book he tells of the enormous plotting the Brits and the Yanks did to create WW1 to destroy Germany and and to cripple Russia forever. But it didn't quite work out that way. So , true to form , they created Hitler, created his Germany and then trapped him into another war to this time turn Germany into the puppet system that it is today. Needlessly to say Great Britain was betrayed by the Americans. The Americans quickly built up their puppet system of Germany ( and Japan) , and Great Britain was no longer great. What went wrong? And may I add that the US then continued with its 100 year old rampage to become the world's only super power....but that has proven harder to do than the US had thought it would be.