Let's strategize how to be heard about the non-Jewish version of Holocaust

[CHoutle]

rene:

What would be the elements of another story to replace this one?

The problem is it's not just a story, it's a Big-lie. And it's not just a Big-lie, it's a myth.

You need a story to replace a story, but we do not have a myth to replace a myth, nor do we want to. But therein lies a major problem. We want to replace their myth with facts, and the true-believers are comfortable with their myth. Replacing their comfortable myth with uncomfortable facts is uncomfortable for them. It opens a whole new can of worms that they have to face because if the so-called "holocaust" really is a Big-lie, then they have to face a reality that they have been avoiding all their lives. And that reality is their reality has been falsely and maliciously constructed to their detriment and for the benefit of the jews.

People cling to their myths even tighter than a story. And the jews and their true-believing minions cling to their holocaust myth with the zeal of cult members. That's why they're so delusional and react so irrationally to the truth and those who expose the Big-lies that are the foundation of their cult.

[CHoutle]

Hannover:

That power, as fake as it is, can be taken away from them by simply not playing along with the charade.

As far as a strategy that can be used to take that power away from the jews, here are a few links that can help tremendously:

Intolerance in Academia

...called the Chicago Principles. The statement, published by the Committee of Freedom of Expression at the University of Chicago, calls for free speech to be central to college and university culture... Bloomberg pointed out that fewer than 70 of America’s 4,000 colleges and universities have endorsed or adopted the Chicago statement.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/10/wal ... -academia/

Special Announcement

Federal Action Regarding Free Expression on Campuses

Read Statement

https://freeexpression.uchicago.edu/

The University of Chicago should be a center of activity for all who wish to expose the holohoax, and the 68 other colleges and universities should be secondary bases.

These colleges and universities are offering a golden opportunity to actually do something truly constructive.

Make sure to check out this video:

Free Expression: A University of Chicago Core Value

And if you live anywhere near any of the following colleges / universities and you want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie, get after it, and let us know how things go for you:

by FIRE October 4, 2019

The following institutions or faculty bodies have adopted or endorsed the Chicago Statement or a substantially similar statement.

Princeton University: Officially Adopted in April 2015.*
Purdue University: Affirmed by the Board of Trustees in May 2015.
Johns Hopkins University: Officially Adopted in September 2015.
American University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in September 2015.
Chapman University: Officially Adopted in September 2015.
Winston-Salem State University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in September 2015.
Michigan State University: Officially Adopted in October 2015.
University of Virginia College at Wise: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in November 2015.
University of Wisconsin System: Affirmed by Board of Regents in December 2015.
Washington and Lee University: Officially Adopted in December 2015.*
Louisiana State University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in February 2016.
University of Minnesota: Affirmed by Faculty Body in March 2016.
City University of New York: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in March 2016.
Denison University: Officially Adopted in April 2016.*
Claremont McKenna College: Officially Adopted in May 2016.*
Amherst College: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in May 2016.
University of Missouri System: Officially Adopted in Spring 2016.*
The Citadel: Officially Adopted in June 2016.
University of Southern Indiana: Officially Adopted in August 2016.
Vanderbilt University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in August 2016.
Washington University in St. Louis: Officially Adopted in September 2016.*
Columbia University: Officially Adopted in September 2016.*
Northern Illinois University: Officially Adopted in October 2016.
Eckerd College: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in Fall 2016.
Franklin & Marshall College: Officially Adopted in February 2017.*
Appalachian State University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in February 2017.
University of Maine System: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in March 2017.
University of Montana: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in May 2017.
University of Denver: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in May 2017.
Kenyon College: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in Spring 2017.
Georgetown University: Officially Adopted in June 2017.
Kansas State University: Officially Adopted in August 2017.*
State University of New York- University at Buffalo: Officially Adopted in August 2017.
Ashland University: Officially Adopted in October 2017.*
California State University Channel Islands: Officially Adopted in October 2017.
University of Central Florida: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in October 2017.
University of Nebraska: Affirmed by Board of Regents in January 2018.
Middle Tennessee State University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in January 2018.
Tennessee Technological University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in January 2018.
Smith College: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in February 2018.
University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill: Affirmed by Faculty Council in April 2018.
Ohio Wesleyan University: Officially Adopted in April 2018.*
Joliet Junior College: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in April 2018.
University of Arkansas at Little Rock: Officially Adopted in May 2018.*
Gettysburg College: Affirmed by Board of Regents in May 2018.*
Ranger College: Affirmed by Board of Regents in May 2018.
University of Maryland: Officially Adopted in May 2018.*
Utica College: Officially Adopted in May 2018.*
Kettering University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in June 2018.
Ohio University: Officially Adopted in July 2018.*
Suffolk University: Officially Adopted in July 2018.
Arizona State University: Officially Adopted in August 2018.
University of Colorado System: Affirmed by Board of Regents in September 2018.
Colgate University: Officially Adopted in October 2018.*
Brandeis University: Officially Adopted in October 2018.*
Christopher Newport University: Officially Adopted in November 2018.
George Mason University: Officially Adopted in November 2018.
South Dakota University System: Affirmed by Board of Regents in December 2018.
University of Arizona: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in December 2018.
Stetson University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in February 2019.*
University of Texas at San Antonio: Officially Adopted in February 2019.
Clark University: Officially Adopted in February 2019.
Nevada System of Higher Education: Affirmed by Board of Regents in March 2019.
Cleveland State University: Officially Adopted in March 2019.*
State University System of Florida: Affirmed by Board of Governors in April 2019.
Board of Regents, State of Iowa: Affirmed by Board of Regents in April 2019.*
University of Louisiana at Lafayette: Officially Adopted in April 2019.
Miami University: Officially Adopted in July 2019.*
*Indicates that multiple campus stakeholders approved this statement.

https://www.thefire.org/chicago-stateme ... y-support/

[flimflam]

And if you live anywhere near any of the following colleges / universities and you want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie, get after it, and let us know how things go for you:

It is silly and irresponsible to the point of being idiotic to suggest that someone 'get after it'. What in hell have you done? The fact is that any person would be a hero or a fool to publicly oppose the holohoax as an individual. There needs to be an organization. We are all cowards, but maybe if some person would take the lead in creating an organization to expose the holohoax some of us could buck up and join and even do something. Without an organization nothing will happen.

The only person I've seen who has tried to step up is Patrick Little, and he has apparently self-destructed. There is also a politician in Ca., John Fitzgerald, who exposes the hoax, but he has generated very little publicity and has no organization.

[Lamprecht]

There needs to be an organization. We are all cowards, but maybe if some person would take the lead in creating an organization to expose the holohoax some of us could buck up and join and even do something. Without an organization nothing will happen.

What is CODOH? From the about page:
"CODOH is organized as a trust and is striving to become a tax-exempt organization."

There's also Castle Hill Publishers. I guess "Organization" is a legal status, I am not really concerned about the semantics of this.
There is a volunteer page: https://codoh.com/volunteer/

What can you offer?

The Holocaust has already been exposed as a hoax, for the most part. The only thing left, really, is to go around digging the AR camps up. Something which has been attempted, and met with failure, but it was done by Jews and zionists/Jewish apologists so they just made a few drawings and said "Sure, we found some graves!" and called it a day. Ah, well there's not going to ever be a revisionist "Organization" which is going to be allowed to go dig up these places.

If I was rich (I am not, but if...) I would fund a sort of "Official debate" with rules set out and try to find some sort of objective group of people to act as the jury or whatever. By objective I mean something like Chinese, Japanese, or Korean students of English or something. Maybe not east asians, but some non-westerners for sure, people that haven't been taught "The Nazis killed 6 million Jews" in school. And the debate would be organized with rules, word count limits for each response, etc.

It is also a good idea to make video documentaries, but with YouTube banning all "Holocaust denial" it would have to be spread via other means. CODOH is working on video documentaries too. Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained - part 2 will be about Auschwitz I believe. Only part 1 is out

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flimflam:

It is silly and irresponsible to the point of being idiotic to suggest that someone 'get after it'.

On a thread that is dedicated to developing strategies on how to be heard, on a forum dedicated to getting the truth out? LOL!

Remember, I prefaced that with; "if you live anywhere near any of the following colleges / universities and you want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie..."

If someone wants to do something constructive, then what is wrong with informing them of the best places to do something constructive and encourage them to get after it?

If you want to be heard, isn't the best place to speak places that proclaim to be bastions of free speech and expression?

flimflam:

The fact is that any person would be a hero or a fool to publicly oppose the holohoax as an individual.

I was encouraging the heroes and giving them information that might help them in their courageous efforts to get the truth out by informing them of the best places to concentrate their efforts.

I'll leave it to you to speak to the fools.

flimflam:

There needs to be an organization... if some person would take the lead in creating an organization to expose the holohoax some of us could buck up and join and even do something. Without an organization nothing will happen.

Then a logical place to do that would be at one of the colleges and universities I posted.

flimflam:

If some person would take the lead.. some of us could buck up

LOL! flimflam, don't you know that - "It is silly and irresponsible to the point of being idiotic to suggest that someone" take the lead? That would require individual effort, would it not? According to you, a person would be have to be a fool to make the individual effort to take the lead.



flimflam:

We are all cowards

I have no doubt that you are what you say you are, but I most certainly wouldn't call the others on the forum what you call yourself, as that would be "silly and irresponsible to the point of being idiotic."

If you are so offended by positive information and encouragement on a thread dedicated to strategy, I suggest you go lurk on other threads.

[CHoutle]

flimflam:

What in hell have you done?

Lamprecht:

What can you offer?

What he offers is negativity and fear mongering in a thread devoted to strategy.

But what do you expect from a person who admits to being a coward?

[borjastick]

Talking of getting after it let's not forget one brave and aged lady, Ursula Haverbeck, who did indeed get after it and is paying for that effort with the loss of her freedom.

She's 91 and still in prison FFS!

It offends me deeply that the state will lock up a person of well over retirement age for daring to question a so called historical event.

[CHoutle]

Talking of getting after it let's not forget one brave and aged lady, Ursula Haverbeck, who did indeed get after it and is paying for that effort with the loss of her freedom.

She's 91 and still in prison FFS!

It offends me deeply that the state will lock up a person of well over retirement age for daring to question a so called historical event.

And yet more negativity and fear mongering in a thread devoted to strategy.

That was in Germany, the following list that I provided:

The following institutions or faculty bodies have adopted or endorsed the Chicago Statement or a substantially similar statement.

Princeton University: Officially Adopted in April 2015.*
Purdue University: Affirmed by the Board of Trustees in May 2015.
Johns Hopkins University: Officially Adopted in September 2015.
American University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in September 2015.
Chapman University: Officially Adopted in September 2015.
Winston-Salem State University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in September 2015.
Michigan State University: Officially Adopted in October 2015.
University of Virginia College at Wise: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in November 2015.
University of Wisconsin System: Affirmed by Board of Regents in December 2015.
Washington and Lee University: Officially Adopted in December 2015.*
Louisiana State University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in February 2016.
University of Minnesota: Affirmed by Faculty Body in March 2016.
City University of New York: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in March 2016.
Denison University: Officially Adopted in April 2016.*
Claremont McKenna College: Officially Adopted in May 2016.*
Amherst College: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in May 2016.
University of Missouri System: Officially Adopted in Spring 2016.*
The Citadel: Officially Adopted in June 2016.
University of Southern Indiana: Officially Adopted in August 2016.
Vanderbilt University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in August 2016.
Washington University in St. Louis: Officially Adopted in September 2016.*
Columbia University: Officially Adopted in September 2016.*
Northern Illinois University: Officially Adopted in October 2016.
Eckerd College: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in Fall 2016.
Franklin & Marshall College: Officially Adopted in February 2017.*
Appalachian State University: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in February 2017.
University of Maine System: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in March 2017.
University of Montana: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in May 2017.
University of Denver: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in May 2017.
Kenyon College: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in Spring 2017.
Georgetown University: Officially Adopted in June 2017.
Kansas State University: Officially Adopted in August 2017.*
State University of New York- University at Buffalo: Officially Adopted in August 2017.
Ashland University: Officially Adopted in October 2017.*
California State University Channel Islands: Officially Adopted in October 2017.
University of Central Florida: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in October 2017.
University of Nebraska: Affirmed by Board of Regents in January 2018.
Middle Tennessee State University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in January 2018.
Tennessee Technological University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in January 2018.
Smith College: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in February 2018.
University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill: Affirmed by Faculty Council in April 2018.
Ohio Wesleyan University: Officially Adopted in April 2018.*
Joliet Junior College: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in April 2018.
University of Arkansas at Little Rock: Officially Adopted in May 2018.*
Gettysburg College: Affirmed by Board of Regents in May 2018.*
Ranger College: Affirmed by Board of Regents in May 2018.
University of Maryland: Officially Adopted in May 2018.*
Utica College: Officially Adopted in May 2018.*
Kettering University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in June 2018.
Ohio University: Officially Adopted in July 2018.*
Suffolk University: Officially Adopted in July 2018.
Arizona State University: Officially Adopted in August 2018.
University of Colorado System: Affirmed by Board of Regents in September 2018.
Colgate University: Officially Adopted in October 2018.*
Brandeis University: Officially Adopted in October 2018.*
Christopher Newport University: Officially Adopted in November 2018.
George Mason University: Officially Adopted in November 2018.
South Dakota University System: Affirmed by Board of Regents in December 2018.
University of Arizona: Affirmed by Faculty Senate in December 2018.
Stetson University: Affirmed by Board of Trustees in February 2019.*
University of Texas at San Antonio: Officially Adopted in February 2019.
Clark University: Officially Adopted in February 2019.
Nevada System of Higher Education: Affirmed by Board of Regents in March 2019.
Cleveland State University: Officially Adopted in March 2019.*
State University System of Florida: Affirmed by Board of Governors in April 2019.
Board of Regents, State of Iowa: Affirmed by Board of Regents in April 2019.*
University of Louisiana at Lafayette: Officially Adopted in April 2019.
Miami University: Officially Adopted in July 2019.*
*Indicates that multiple campus stakeholders approved this statement.

https://www.thefire.org/chicago-stateme ... y-support/

Are all institutions in the U.S. that have signed statements pledging dedication to free speech and expression.

The list was intended for those who, like I said:

These colleges and universities are offering a golden opportunity to actually do something truly constructive....

And if you live anywhere near any of the following colleges / universities and you want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie, get after it, and let us know how things go for you:

If you happen to be one of those who don't want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie, and don't want to get after it, then I suggest you find another thread in which to spread your negativity and fear mongering.

[CHoutle]

bearstevenlee:

Also, we gotta strategize how to be heard.

Yes bearstevenlee, that is exactly what we gotta do.

And this is a great forum for doing such a thing.

We just have to get after it.


flimflam:

What in hell have you done?

Well flimflam, I just so happen to be doing research on a campus that is listed above.

What the hell I'm doing is research and trying to talk to like minded people who wish to talk strategy and want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie.

Isn't that what this thread is all about?

[borjastick]

CHoutle:

If you happen to be one of those who don't want to do something constructive in defeating the holohoax lie, and don't want to get after it, then I suggest you find another thread in which to spread your negativity and fear mongering.

If this comment was aimed at me matey you got it wrong. What I clearly showed was some people do indeed 'get after it' and have been brutally punished, beaten, run out of town etc. So I don't like the attitude matey.

You have no idea how I've been getting after it yet you presume to talk down to me. See how many posts I've made, see how I've pushed the argument forward instead of making cheap and asinine comments.

I've been at this game for a long time and have done plenty to spread the word.

The strategy you might be looking for is to get off your arse and onto the streets and shout how the holocaust claims are untrue lies and slurs against a good people.

I done plenty over the years, raised the subject in public wherever and whenever I could. At the dinner table and in general conversation. I've met with a good few higher end revisionists in London and places around Europe. I've been abused, shouted at and even physically man handled.

How's your strategy coming along matey?

[Pia Kahn]

The strategies developed by codoh actually worked very well on the internet. Therefoe, Facebook, Google, Amazon and YouTube have been pressured to censor revisionist voices. Our opponents strategy is to stifle our voices. We must make our voices be heard.

There is one aspect that needs more consideration. The general public has been brainwashed to loath unbelievers and to not listen to them. We don't have a clear strategy in order to deprogram the general public such that they be willing to listen and argue at all.

[Pia Kahn]

I think we need a psychological strategy on how to approach the brainwashed people.

[Lamprecht]

I think we need a psychological strategy on how to approach the brainwashed people.

Do you know about Yuri Bezmenov? Search him on YouTube, there are many videos there posted of 1-2 hour long lectures he gave. He was a Soviet defector that exposed their "ideological subversion" campaign against the West. He doesn't say anything about the Holocaust but it's quite revealing what he does say about the topic in general.

The reality is, the only way to convince these people is not with facts and arguments. They don't even trust their own judgment. You must convince them that they are the minority, that nearly everyone else disagrees with them, that the "experts" agree with you. That's not going to be possible right now. We just have to accept that some people will never change their minds, and they will die believing the same thing no matter what evidence is presented.

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borjastick:

I've been abused, shouted at and even physically man handled.

I don't doubt that a bit.


Lamprecht:

We just have to accept that some people will never change their minds, and they will die believing the same thing no matter what evidence is presented.

How true.

Why do people continue to espouse demonstrably false claims even after being

confronted with the incontrovertible facts that refute them? Because you can’t

convince a true-believer of anything - for their beliefs are not based on science

and reason - they’re based on blind faith and a weak-willed NEED to believe.

Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool critical thinkers - but rather;

Only to give self-deceiving cowards an excuse not to think at all.

http://nafcash.com/

pia Kahn:

The general public has been brainwashed to loath unbelievers and to not listen to them. We don't have a clear strategy in order to deprogram the general public such that they be willing to listen and argue at all.

Right. So where are the best places to concentrate speaking the truth with the hope of having people listen?

What can people do to grease the skids?

Here is a good place to start:

https://www.thefire.org/get-involved/st ... niversity/

The Chicago Statement is here:

https://provost.uchicago.edu/sites/defa ... Report.pdf

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borjastick:

The strategy you might be looking for is to get off your arse...

IOW: Get after it.

I like it.