The Einsatzgruppen and 'Holocaust Standards'

[Hannover]

This is simply another example of the fraud that was the Nuremberg Show Trials as demonstrated by Tom Moran.
In this case we have a court decision on the alleged 2,000,000 Einsatzgruppen murders pre-determined without any proof whatsoever. Claims are made with nothing to back them up.

Indeed, that's the definition of a Show Trial, read on

- Hannover

http://codoh.com/library/document/345/

Holocaust Standards
By Tom Moran
Published: 2002-01-01
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Here's an account of the standards of proof that some two million (2,000,000) persons were murdered. Not too far into the reading we find that the focus is on Jewish victims\.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project ... tzdec.html

Military Tribunal II – Case 9
(pages 1-54)

The United States of America
- vs -
OTTO OHLENDORF, HEINZ JOST, ERICH NAUMANN, OTTO RASCH, ERWIN SCHULTZ, FRANZ SIX, PAUL BLOBEL, WALTER BLUME, MARTIN SANDBERGER, WILLY SEIBERT, EUGEN STEIMLE, ERNST BIBER- STEIN, WERNER BRAUNE, WALTER HAENSCH, GUSTAV NOSSKE, ADOLF OTT, EDUARD STRAUCH, EMIL HAUSSMAN, WOLDEMAR KLINGHOFFER, LOTHAR FENDLER, WALDEMAR VON RADETZKY, FELIX RUEHL, HEINZ SCHUBERT, and MATTHIAS GRAF,
Defendants

After a lengthy preamble of moral rhetoric we get to what exactly the evidence is:

The International Military Tribunal in its decision of October 1, 1946 declared that the Einsatzgruppen and the Security Police, to which the defendants belonged, were responsible for the murder of two million defenseless human beings, and the evidence presented in this case has in no way shaken this finding. ...

Judicial opinions are often primarily prepared for the information and guidance of the legal profession, but the Nuremberg judgments are of interest to a much larger segment of the earth's population. It would not be too much to say that the entire world itself is concerned with the adjudications being handed down in Nuremberg. ...

The story of the Einsatzgruppen and the Einsatzkommandos is not something pieced together years after their crimson deeds were accomplished. The story was written as the events it narrates occurred, and it was authored by the doers of the deeds. It was written in the terse, exact language which military discipline requires, and which precision of reporting dictates. ...

The case of the Prosecution is founded entirely on these official accounts prepared by the Einsatzgruppen and Einsatzkommando leaders.

In other words the evidence, in its entirety, is said to be documents supposedly captured from German records. No doubt the documents were introduced by the Bolsheviks. Who found the alleged documents? When were they found? Where were they found?

Anyway, the evidence for the alleged mass extermination of some 2,000,000 would be stuff written on paper, said to be captured from German records, submitted by the same minds that introduced their own crime at the Katyn Forest as a German crime.

Any controversy about who did what at Katyn was and is made clear by the German report on their investigation complete with photographs of the forensic procedure, not to mention the eventual admission by the Russians. In the extant report we see the scene of the crime, the mass graves as they are being uncovered, and the bodies.

For the above allegations in "CASE 9" of the Military Tribunal we have what was read from pieces of paper submitted by the Bolsheviks, 10,000 here shot, 20,000 there unto 30,000 someplace else. As it says, "The case of the Prosecution is founded entirely on these official accounts prepared by the Einsatzgruppen and Einsatzkommando leaders.

Okay, they said it. That the case was founded "entirely" on the "official records" which would be alleged captured German records, found by whom, not said, when they were found, not said, where they were found, not said. Then of course, no reports on investigations of scene of the crimes mentioned, no forensic reports, no proof of any bodies – nothing.

Thus, if compared to real U.S. court standards in a murder trial – If nothing, then no Holocaust.

The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

The tide is turning.

[Hektor]

This is simply another example of the fraud that was the Nuremberg Show Trials as demonstrated by Tom Moran.
In this case we have a court decision on the alleged 2,000,000 Einsatzgruppen murders pre-determined without any proof whatsoever. Claims are made with nothing to back them up.

Indeed, that's the definition of a Show Trial, read on

- Hannover

http://codoh.com/library/document/345/

Holocaust Standards
By Tom Moran
Published: 2002-01-01
Report a problem
...
OTTO OHLENDORF, HEINZ JOST, ERICH NAUMANN, OTTO RASCH, ERWIN SCHULTZ, FRANZ SIX, PAUL BLOBEL, WALTER BLUME, MARTIN SANDBERGER, WILLY SEIBERT, EUGEN STEIMLE, ERNST BIBER- STEIN, WERNER BRAUNE, WALTER HAENSCH, GUSTAV NOSSKE, ADOLF OTT, EDUARD STRAUCH, EMIL HAUSSMAN, WOLDEMAR KLINGHOFFER, LOTHAR FENDLER, WALDEMAR VON RADETZKY, FELIX RUEHL, HEINZ SCHUBERT, and MATTHIAS GRAF,
Defendants

After a lengthy preamble of moral rhetoric we get to what exactly the evidence is:

The International Military Tribunal in its decision of October 1, 1946 declared that the Einsatzgruppen and the Security Police, to which the defendants belonged, were responsible for the murder of two million defenseless human beings, and the evidence presented in this case has in no way shaken this finding. ...
....
The case of the Prosecution is founded entirely on these official accounts prepared by the Einsatzgruppen and Einsatzkommando leaders.

In other words the evidence, in its entirety, is said to be documents supposedly captured from German records. No doubt the documents were introduced by the Bolsheviks. Who found the alleged documents? When were they found? Where were they found?
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Lanzmann got secret (?) recording with Heinz Schubert except that 'executions burdened' their souls they don't get much there though:

Lanzmann says that the "Fuehrerbefehl" is mysterious - there was no written order; the order for the extermination of the Jews was given orally. Lanzmann asks whether Schubert spoke to Ohlendorf or Seibert about Pretsch. Schubert says he did so only once: in Simferopol Ohlendorf told him he should be happy he was just an adjutant and had nothing to do with such things. But he did become involved, when he observed the Jews and Roma at the collection point before their execution in Simferopol, in order to report to Ohlendorf whether the operation was carried out according to his orders. Audio only from 03:11:33 to 03:12:03. Schubert is not quite clear in his wording and Frau Schubert interrupts to make clear that he is speaking about an order given by Ohlendorf, not an order given by Schubert himself. Schubert apologizes for his wife, who has suffered more than he has since 1945. They talk about Schubert's position in the SD. He describes Ohlendorf as the most hated man in the upper party leadership because he reported things as they were, even when Hitler no longer wanted to hear it. Schubert mentions Streckenbach again.
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1004055

The argument isn't that there were 'no executions', that's not what is in dispute. The argument is executions as 'genocidal policy' and in terms of volume and targets. Executions of 2.000.000 would have left posterity with tons of material evidence. And if that was really there, then the Soviets would have proudly presented it to the world, but they didn't.

Lanzmann and Schubert present some small talk, there and it sounds obscure of course. In the mind of the gullible fantasizing about 'Holocaust' anything becomes evidence for his Myth. Kind of thunder being evidence for angry Zeus.

But again... Lanzmann may have presented more detail than is 'good for his story' there.