Although exterminationists often try to pretend that the anti-Jewish policies of the NSDAP were some massive historical fluke, this does not seem to be the case at all. Although animosity towards Jews stretches back thousands of years, I would like here to focus on so-called "anti-Semitism" outside of Germany from the late 1800s up to the 1930s, primarily the interwar period. I included the late 1800s because the Wikipedia article on "Timeline of the Holocaust" gives the first entry as 1879: "Wilhelm Marr becomes the first proponent of racial anti-Semitism, blaming Jews for the failure of the German revolutions of 1848–49."
Here is a short article (PDF) from 2004 on the subject:
Anti-Semitism in Europe Before the Holocaust (DOI: 10.1177/0192512104038166)
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10 ... 2104038166 or http://web.archive.org/web/202101211548 ... e9c2ae.pdf
Some points made in the article:
- An international meeting that took place in July 1938 -- the Evian Conference in Evian-les-Bains, France -- that resulted in the USA, Great Britain, and Australia refusing to take in German-Jewish refugees
- Romania, Hungary, and Poland also requested that someone else also take in their Jewish populations
- The Hungarians and Czechs refused to give refuge to the expelled Sudetenland Jews
- Only the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica agreed to increase their refugee quota for Jews
- Argentina and Brazil pledged to Papal authorities that they would accept baptized Jews as refugees but then reneged on it
- Britain closed off Palestine to Jewish immigrants
- The US Congress refused to pass the Wagner-Rogers Child Refugee Bill, turning down 20,000 European Jewish children refugees. The US also refused to accept the 936 German-Jewish refugees aboard the St. Louis ship in 1939, before WW2 broke out in Europe
This table is also featured in the article:
Also, figure 1 (on page 43) shows that over 1899-1939 the rate of "Anti-Semitic acts per million people" was higher in Romania than Germany, by a factor of 3. The rate was also slightly higher in Great Britain and France compared to Italy.
One of the authors of the above article also wrote a 400-page book about this subject, which can be found here:
Roots of Hate: Anti-Semitism in Europe before the Holocaust
PDF: http://web.archive.org/web/202101211550 ... f-hate.pdf or http://web.archive.org/web/202101211557 ... 606df7.pdf
This book goes into much more detail about the topic, I'll probably read more into it at a later date and post relevant excerpts.
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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...
— Herbert Spencer
NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...
Re: Non-German "Anti-Semitism" before the "Holocaust" / The Evian Conference
This July 1938 decision you reference, to refuse to accept large numbers of (Jewish) refugees, was during high unemployment everywhere. The economic news was negative and then-recently getting worse, a terrible blow to morale. Economic conditions worsened in late 1937 and were obvious by early-mid 1938, with US unemployment rising from a 1930s low of 14% reached in mid-1937 to 19% by mid-1938. That is the macroeconomic context of the "Evian Conference."
See "Recession of 1937--38" (wiki; or choose a source of your choice, as the economic slump of the late 1930s is not esoteric knowledge but mountains of material has been published on it).
The same poor macroeconomic conditions held when the (famous, in our time, within the Holocaust Narrative) Jewish refugee ship St. Louis was refused (June 1939).
Unemployment and persistent sluggishness in the economy was solved by war mobilization, an economic god-send akin to a sudden intervention by the gods in a Greek drama. US unemployment quickly evaporated with war-related production.
The end of the unemployment problem and a sudden economic boom soon shifted a lot of 'baseline' thinking as on the obvious need to keep immigrants at bay, but a lot else also swept everyone up, ideological tumult, sudden catapulting of the US into global power commitments, escalation of the war, and eventually 'institutionalized' atrocity-propaganda changed everything. But the basic, dry economic analysis is still important.
Only starting about early spring 1940 did the persistent unemployment problem begin to ease in earnest, and then the improvement-trend snowballed. Suddenly employment returned to pre-Depression levels by about late spring 1941, and it was no phantom recovery as wages also rose all around. This unsung 12-month-plus period suddenly ended the Depression. (A little awkward because so many of our elite and opinion-shapers even in the 2020s are still committed to Keynesianism, by which the New Deal is said to have helped or even solved the Depression -- a common belief among ordinary people, but not borne out by the data on the matter -- and anyone arguing that war[-mobilization] alone solved the Depression is in an awkward moral position. The war-mobilization argument is solid but no one relishes making it.)
BTW, it was this sudden reversal-of-fortunes-for-the-better that set the stage for the Baby Boom (or at least a very important requisite for it), and birth trends distinctly start rising as of 1942 (births in 1942 represent family formation and conceptions-brought-to-term beginning in 1941, aligning precisely to the economic boom). This is also against the usual idea that the Baby Boom began in 1945/46 with returning soldiers coming back, beaming with optimism at victory, starting families delayed for years. No, the distinct upturn in births clearly begins in 1942, even if it peaked in the later 1940s (high fertility also persisted into the early 1960s). So what happened in the few years before 1942? This dramatic evaporation of the unemployment problem happened.
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To take this comment back firmly to the Holocaust topic: These things (unemployment, economic conditions, recession) are seldom or never talked about as the context in which the US and others "refused Jewish refugees." In the Holocaust, nothing else matters and no other considerations or motivations are considered except anti-Jewish bias. But, surprise!, people tend to make decisions based on the best data available to them at the time, and for the best interests of their people.
This is not to exclude general immigration restrictionism, of the kind that became the dominant thinking in the US in the 1910s (with dramatic immigration restriction laws passed, culminating in the 1921 law, made permanent in 1924), but the worst economic conditions on record, and years of that, is bound to make people shy about taking in literal boat-loads of immigrants. It's therefore not at all clear to me these decisions can firmly be pointed to as definitely motivated by anti-Jewish bias.
See "Recession of 1937--38" (wiki; or choose a source of your choice, as the economic slump of the late 1930s is not esoteric knowledge but mountains of material has been published on it).
The same poor macroeconomic conditions held when the (famous, in our time, within the Holocaust Narrative) Jewish refugee ship St. Louis was refused (June 1939).
Unemployment and persistent sluggishness in the economy was solved by war mobilization, an economic god-send akin to a sudden intervention by the gods in a Greek drama. US unemployment quickly evaporated with war-related production.
The end of the unemployment problem and a sudden economic boom soon shifted a lot of 'baseline' thinking as on the obvious need to keep immigrants at bay, but a lot else also swept everyone up, ideological tumult, sudden catapulting of the US into global power commitments, escalation of the war, and eventually 'institutionalized' atrocity-propaganda changed everything. But the basic, dry economic analysis is still important.
Only starting about early spring 1940 did the persistent unemployment problem begin to ease in earnest, and then the improvement-trend snowballed. Suddenly employment returned to pre-Depression levels by about late spring 1941, and it was no phantom recovery as wages also rose all around. This unsung 12-month-plus period suddenly ended the Depression. (A little awkward because so many of our elite and opinion-shapers even in the 2020s are still committed to Keynesianism, by which the New Deal is said to have helped or even solved the Depression -- a common belief among ordinary people, but not borne out by the data on the matter -- and anyone arguing that war[-mobilization] alone solved the Depression is in an awkward moral position. The war-mobilization argument is solid but no one relishes making it.)
BTW, it was this sudden reversal-of-fortunes-for-the-better that set the stage for the Baby Boom (or at least a very important requisite for it), and birth trends distinctly start rising as of 1942 (births in 1942 represent family formation and conceptions-brought-to-term beginning in 1941, aligning precisely to the economic boom). This is also against the usual idea that the Baby Boom began in 1945/46 with returning soldiers coming back, beaming with optimism at victory, starting families delayed for years. No, the distinct upturn in births clearly begins in 1942, even if it peaked in the later 1940s (high fertility also persisted into the early 1960s). So what happened in the few years before 1942? This dramatic evaporation of the unemployment problem happened.
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To take this comment back firmly to the Holocaust topic: These things (unemployment, economic conditions, recession) are seldom or never talked about as the context in which the US and others "refused Jewish refugees." In the Holocaust, nothing else matters and no other considerations or motivations are considered except anti-Jewish bias. But, surprise!, people tend to make decisions based on the best data available to them at the time, and for the best interests of their people.
This is not to exclude general immigration restrictionism, of the kind that became the dominant thinking in the US in the 1910s (with dramatic immigration restriction laws passed, culminating in the 1921 law, made permanent in 1924), but the worst economic conditions on record, and years of that, is bound to make people shy about taking in literal boat-loads of immigrants. It's therefore not at all clear to me these decisions can firmly be pointed to as definitely motivated by anti-Jewish bias.
Re: Non-German "Anti-Semitism" before the "Holocaust" / The Evian Conference
I would by highly sceptical of any article on the topic of antisemitism written by a jew. In fact, one should be highly sceptical of anything written or said by a jew.
I expect that Brustein 'carefully documents' the antisemitism under the bed, around the corner, in the jungle, when it rains and from far off galaxies.
That's not to say antisemitism doesn't exist, it's just that it's multiplied like compound interest in the usurious mind of shlomo & routinely used as a weapon and to maintain (((cohesion))). There is great benefit in pumping the numbers.
I expect that Brustein 'carefully documents' the antisemitism under the bed, around the corner, in the jungle, when it rains and from far off galaxies.
That's not to say antisemitism doesn't exist, it's just that it's multiplied like compound interest in the usurious mind of shlomo & routinely used as a weapon and to maintain (((cohesion))). There is great benefit in pumping the numbers.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled
Re: Non-German "Anti-Semitism" before the "Holocaust" / The Evian Conference
Sannhet wrote:This July 1938 decision you reference, to refuse to accept large numbers of (Jewish) refugees, was during high unemployment everywhere. The economic news was negative and then-recently getting worse, a terrible blow to morale. Economic conditions worsened in late 1937 and were obvious by early-mid 1938, with US unemployment rising from a 1930s low of 14% reached in mid-1937 to 19% by mid-1938. That is the macroeconomic context of the "Evian Conference."
This is not to exclude general immigration restrictionism, of the kind that became the dominant thinking in the US in the 1910s (with dramatic immigration restriction laws passed, culminating in the 1921 law, made permanent in 1924), but the worst economic conditions on record, and years of that, is bound to make people shy about taking in literal boat-loads of immigrants. It's therefore not at all clear to me these decisions can firmly be pointed to as definitely motivated by anti-Jewish bias.
This is from the book I cited in the OP:
In the USA, the Emergency Quota Act of 1921 was argued to be passed specifically to prevent Jewish emigration. Even during WWII Americans were polled and said "The Jews" were a greater threat to the country than Germans or Japanese. The Great Depression started in 1929 so I don't think that was a particular concern back then:
The stated justification was Jewish support for Bolshevism. Even before the First World War people were talking about removing Jews from Europe.
- Prussian scholar Paul de Lagarde suggested evacuating the European Jews to Madagascar in his 1878 book "Deutsche Schriften" ("German Writings")
- British academics like Henry Hamilton Beamish, Arnold Leese, as well as Austro-Hungaran Georg de Pottere also suggested Jews be sent to Madagascar
- American industrialist and automaker Henry Ford wrote 'The International Jew' in the 1920s and distributed it in his Ford automobiles. I previously read an account by Ford that during WW1 he took a boat to Europe (to put a stop to the war) and at this time Jewish passengers told him that the war was started because of Jewish pressure, which. I cannot remember the source where I found this so I am just speaking from memory here.
- In France, the "Dreyfus Affair" went on from 1894-1906 in which a Jewish military officer was charged with treason
- Germans actually played an insignificant role in writings about race at the time, with perhaps Ernst Haeckel being the only significant early racial thinker of note that was German. Mostly they were American but also British and French. Frenchman Ernst Renan and (Norwegian) Christian Lassen popularized the contrast between Jews as Semites and other Europeans as "Aryans" (Indo-Europeans) as subsets of the greater Caucasoid race. Edouard Drumont was another French writer that wrote about racial differences between Jews and other Europeans in an unfavorable light.
stinky wrote:I would by highly sceptical of any article on the topic of antisemitism written by a jew. In fact, one should be highly sceptical of anything written or said by a jew.
I expect that Brustein 'carefully documents' the antisemitism under the bed, around the corner, in the jungle, when it rains and from far off galaxies.
That's not to say antisemitism doesn't exist, it's just that it's multiplied like compound interest in the usurious mind of shlomo & routinely used as a weapon and to maintain (((cohesion))). There is great benefit in pumping the numbers.
Yes of course, the bias is a given, you just have to be aware of it. I have been reading sections of that book and I do see many exaggerations but there are references to names, books, years, articles, times, and places that do check out upon further investigation -- I am not as interested in the author's conclusions, just on the verifiable facts. It was always known that hostility towards Jews did not magically appear out of the ether in 1930s Germany but instead had long traditions - exterminationists typically do not bring this up, preferring to focus on Hitler as some anomaly, so there is a lot of ignorance about this among the general public.
I also do not buy the argument that it was exclusively inspired by economic hardship. Naturally, countries will not want to take in refugees when there is massive unemployment (but aren't Jews good with money?) however even before that there were strong efforts to prevent them from coming into the USA, and in Europe there were efforts to get them out. Poverty has always exacerbated this sort of thing but it doesn't create it.
Remember that in 1920, Churchill wrote his "Zionism versus Bolshevism" article. He was far from alone in his thinking.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...
— Herbert Spencer
NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...
Re: Non-German "Anti-Semitism" before the "Holocaust" / The Evian Conference
Here are some facts from two books that will help elaborate on the kind of Anti-Semitism that existed in countries outside Germany.
Poland was not at all fond of Jews, and this shouldn't be surprising, seeing as the Jews were also widely overrepresented in various professions:
Anti-Semitism was also present in Romania as Ferguson goes on to note, briefly discussing the activities of the Romanian Iron Guard led by Corneliu Codreanu. He goes on to ask:
A.J.P. Taylor highlights the contradiction in British thinking about Germany, he shows us how they believed it was their right to pass moral judgement and deny Germans their rights to not only peruse self-determination within Germany itself (by choosing to back Hitler's government) but to then deny the right of self-determination for Germans in other countries, who were unhappy being minorities, all because they disapproved of Germany's government.
The argument then followed that Germany should be opposed, if not destroyed because she didn't, ironically, align herself with the same moral principles as the Democracies. One could cheekily remark that such an expectation is rather totalitarian. None of this changes the fact that Germany had no obligation to meet the expectations of Great Britain, France or the United States in order to demand equal treatment among the nations of the world to determine her own destiny and incorporate populations of Germans who were wrongfully separated from their brethren back into the German national fold. The Democracies therefore, had to violate their own principles by denying these rights to the Germans, under the pretence that it was justified because Germany was not a Democracy. Yet clearly this shows how Democracies, like Dictatorships, have no obligation to consistently peruse their stated principles, and can actually rescind on their principles whenever it suits them. therefore making the demand Germany be a Democracy utterly worthless. Since clearly Democratic character didn't influence perceived Democratic actions. Of course, as Taylor notes, the irony is confounded by the fact that the British were most willing to ally with the Russians, a ruthless totalitarian terror state, to oppose Germany because she was an alleged "totalitarian terror state". I guess this might be what's called "fighting fire with fire", but when one does fight fire with fire, they have consistent reasons for doing so that doesn't outright contradict their decision to use fire against itself. The British had no such consistency, and fully embraced the contradiction in courting the Soviet Union. (I have commented on Niall Ferguson in this regard also, because he appeals to the same ridiculous Anglo-Centric narcissism which polluted the minds of Englishmen in the 1930s and still today: The Audacity of Niall Ferguson - His Bad Case Against Germany and apology for British War Mongering https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13127)
Taylor says that Germany "lapsed", but this is irrelevant. German Democracy was new at the time it was introduced, and it utterly failed to function. On top of that, next to no Germans actually wanted a Democracy anyway, seeing as this was the case one cannot hold it against them for having "lapsed" if it meant giving them what they wanted under a Dictatorship which, like Hitler did, gave them a sense of national pride and stability. So again, the excuse that Germany was a "totalitarian state" and thus didn't deserve, under Democratic principles, to have the same rights as everyone else is yet another example of the Allies believing it's their right to decide what other nations should or shouldn't do. That they get to decide the character Germany should've had. They perused this ignorant belief until it culminated in the Second World War, where Germany was destroyed and again forced to be Democratic because it best suited whatever insurgent world order was being concocted by Globalists and Jews.
The French displayed a similar attitude towards Germany:
But why go on this tangent? Because the British not only held inner contradictions regarding their supposed Democratic principles, but also on their treatment of the Jews:
Taylor on the same page goes on to talk about how the Jews in Germany were different because they weren't as poor as Jews in Poland or Russia, that the German Jews were much more cultured is what made the British angry, because they weren't "just any" Jews so to speak. When they entered Britain, he says, they were like "walking propaganda" against the National Socialists.
You can make the connection that because the Jews had it easy prior to the advent of Hitler, that this is what caused the virulent German anti-semitism to arise. Because the Jews had entrenched themselves in Germany and her economic/political institutions to such an extent that they were vastly over-represented in proportion to their percentage of the population. The Jews were in control of much of the media and culture in Germany, while the Germans themselves had become almost second class citizens to these Talmudic parasites. In fact, Robert Gellately echos a similar sentiment, but from a fiercely philo-semitic perspective:
It appears to be the case that Jews weren't really welcome anywhere, and for good reasons. How much of this is exaggerated to suit a Jewish victim narrative must also be kept in mind, especially as it's used to further justify Jewish power in white countries, which is used to disenfranchise white people from determining our own destinies. So if there was no "legacy of Anti-Semitism" outside of Germany during this time, then the Jews would have trouble comparing white racial consciousness, and self-affirmation to "the Nazis". They need to make sure that white pride is associated with National Socialist Germany, and furthermore, to inhibit whites from seeing that National Socialism is actually the key to our own salvation.
Poland was not at all fond of Jews, and this shouldn't be surprising, seeing as the Jews were also widely overrepresented in various professions:
Even as late as 1939, it was by no means clear that the Nazis were the worst anti-Semites in continental Europe. Nor was their racial state at this stage unique in the world.
In neighbouring Poland, for example, there was no shortage of newspaper articles that could equally well have appeared in the Nazi Vôlkische Beobachter. As early as August 1934, an author writing under the pseudonym 'Swastika' in the Catholic newspaper Pro Christo argued: 'We should count as a Jew not only the follower of the Talmud. . . but every human being who has Jewish blood in his veins . . . Only a person who can prove that there were no ancestors of Jewish race in his family for at least five generations can be considered to be genuinely Aryan.' 'Jews are so terribly alien to us, alien and unpleasant, that they are a race apart,' a contributor to Kultura wrote in September 1936. 'They irritate us and all their traits grate against our sensibilities. Their oriental impetuosity, argumentativeness, specific mode of thought, the set of their eyes, the shape of their ears, the winking of their eyelids, the line of their lips, everything. In families of mixed blood we detect the traces of these features to the third or forth generation and beyond.' Some nationalists like Stefan Kosicki, editor of the Gazeta Warszawaska, began calling for the expulsion of the Jews. Others went further. Already in December 1938 the daily Maty dziennik was calling for 'war' on the Jews, before 'the Jewish rope' strangled Poland. The National Democrat (Endek) leader Roman Dmowski prophesied an 'international pogrom of the Jews' which would bring an 'end to the Jewish chapter of history'. Nor was anti-Semitic violence purely verbal. There had already been pogroms in Wilno (Vilnius) in 1934, Grodno in 1935, Przytyk and Minsk in 1936 and Brzesc (Brest) in 1937. In 1936 Zygmunt Szymanowski, a professor of bacteriology at the University of Warsaw, was shocked by the conduct of Endek students in Warsaw and Lwôw, who assaulted Jewish students between lectures. In the mid-thirties, between one and two thousand Jews suffered injuries in attacks; perhaps as many as thirty were killed.
Neither the Catholic Church nor the Polish government wholly condoned such violence, it is true. Yet Cardinal Hlond's pastoral letter of February 1936 had scarcely been calculated to dampen down Polish anti-Semitism. 'It is a fact', he declared,that Jews oppose the Catholic Church, are steeped in free-thinking, and represent the avant-garde of the atheist movement, the Bolshevik movement, and subversive action. The Jews have a disastrous effect on morality and their publishing-houses dispense pornography . . . Jews commit fraud, usury, and are involved in trade in human beings.
The temporal authorities were little better, despite the fact that the 1921 Constitution expressly ruled out discrimination on racial or religious grounds. In the 1920s Jews in the formerly Russian parts of the country had merely had to put up with the reluctance of the new regime to abolish what remained of the old Tsarist restrictions - many of which remained in force until as late as 1931 - and the inconvenience of the law banning work on Sundays. Worse was to come. The Camp of National Unity (OZN), founded in 1937 to mobilize popular support for Pilsudski's successors, aimed to achieve the 'Polonization' of industry, commerce and the professions at the expense of Jews, who were declared to be 'alien' to Poland. There is no question that Jews were disproportionately successful, particularly in higher education and the professions. Though by 1931 fewer than 9 per cent of the Polish population were Jewish, the proportion rose above 20 per cent in Polish universities. Jews accounted for 56 per cent of all private doctors in Poland, 43 per cent of all private teachers, 34 per cent of lawyers and 22 per cent of journalists. Official boycotts of Jewish businesses led to dramatic declines in the number of Jewish owned shops - in the Bialystok region from 92 per cent of all shops in 1932 to just 50 per cent six years later. Jews were driven out of the meat trade by bans on ritual slaughter; Jewish students were segregated in university classrooms; they were excluded from the legal profession. By 1937-8 their share of university enrolments had fallen to 7.5 per cent. By the end of 1938 it was the government's official policy to 'solve the Jewish question' by pressurizing Polish Jews into emigration. But that was scarcely an option for the many poor Jews in cities like Lodz, where over 70 per cent of Jewish families lived in a single room, often an attic or a cellar, and around a quarter were in receipt of charitable assistance.
Niall Ferguson, The War of the World: Twentieth-Century Conflict and the Descent of the West (New York: The Penguin Press, 2006), Pp. 270-272.
Anti-Semitism was also present in Romania as Ferguson goes on to note, briefly discussing the activities of the Romanian Iron Guard led by Corneliu Codreanu. He goes on to ask:
What of other European states? Italian fascism had not at first been notably anti-Semitic. Yet in 1938 Mussolini introduced legislation closely modelled on the Nuremberg Laws. France was still a democracy, but one shot through with anti-Semitic prejudice. 'Plutôt Hitler que Blum' ('Better Hitler than Blum') was not only a jibe at the Jewish Socialist Léon Blum, the French premier from 1936 until 1937, but also a prophecy of sorts. In Hungary the mood was similar. A Jewish child risked being stoned if left alone in the streets of Szombathely.
If the Jews could not feel safe in Europe, where else could they go? The English-speaking world was scarcely welcoming. The United States had been the first major country of European settlement to introduce immigration quotas in the 1920s, the culmination of a campaign for restriction dating back to the 1890s. As a result of new literacy requirements, quotas and other controls, the annual immigration rate fell from n.6 per thousand in the 1900s to 0.4 per thousand in the 1940s. Others followed the American example as the Depression bit: South Africa introduced quotas in 1930, while Australia, New Zealand and Canada had all introduced other kinds of restriction by 193 2. What the Jews of Europe needed was, of course, political asylum more than economic opportunity. But although large and influential Jewish communities existed in all these countries, there were countervailing tendencies at work. The restriction of immigration was never purely an economic matter, a question of unskilled native-born workers seeking to raise the drawbridge in the face of low-wage competitors. Racial prejudice also played a key role in identifying Jews (along with Southern Italians) as immigrants inferior to previous generations from the British Isles, Germany or Scandinavia. In the Anglophone world, anti-Semitism was a social if not a political phenomenon. Symptomatically, a Bill to admit 20,000 Jewish children to the United States was rejected by the Senate in 1939 and again in 1940.
Ibid., p. 273.
A.J.P. Taylor highlights the contradiction in British thinking about Germany, he shows us how they believed it was their right to pass moral judgement and deny Germans their rights to not only peruse self-determination within Germany itself (by choosing to back Hitler's government) but to then deny the right of self-determination for Germans in other countries, who were unhappy being minorities, all because they disapproved of Germany's government.
there was also a strong moral argument on the other side: the character of the German Government. Germany ceased to be a democratic country after Hitler became chancellor in January 1933. She was, in the contemporary phrase, a totalitarian state. [...] The Nazi dictatorship was no worse than that in some other countries, particularly in Soviet Russian with whom, all the same, the left were advocating an alliance. But events in Germany had once been democratic and law-abiding; Russia had not. It was Germany's lapse from her high estate which constituted her special crime.
A.J.P. Taylor, English History 1914-1945 (London: Book Club Associates, 1977), Pp. 418.
The argument then followed that Germany should be opposed, if not destroyed because she didn't, ironically, align herself with the same moral principles as the Democracies. One could cheekily remark that such an expectation is rather totalitarian. None of this changes the fact that Germany had no obligation to meet the expectations of Great Britain, France or the United States in order to demand equal treatment among the nations of the world to determine her own destiny and incorporate populations of Germans who were wrongfully separated from their brethren back into the German national fold. The Democracies therefore, had to violate their own principles by denying these rights to the Germans, under the pretence that it was justified because Germany was not a Democracy. Yet clearly this shows how Democracies, like Dictatorships, have no obligation to consistently peruse their stated principles, and can actually rescind on their principles whenever it suits them. therefore making the demand Germany be a Democracy utterly worthless. Since clearly Democratic character didn't influence perceived Democratic actions. Of course, as Taylor notes, the irony is confounded by the fact that the British were most willing to ally with the Russians, a ruthless totalitarian terror state, to oppose Germany because she was an alleged "totalitarian terror state". I guess this might be what's called "fighting fire with fire", but when one does fight fire with fire, they have consistent reasons for doing so that doesn't outright contradict their decision to use fire against itself. The British had no such consistency, and fully embraced the contradiction in courting the Soviet Union. (I have commented on Niall Ferguson in this regard also, because he appeals to the same ridiculous Anglo-Centric narcissism which polluted the minds of Englishmen in the 1930s and still today: The Audacity of Niall Ferguson - His Bad Case Against Germany and apology for British War Mongering https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13127)
Taylor says that Germany "lapsed", but this is irrelevant. German Democracy was new at the time it was introduced, and it utterly failed to function. On top of that, next to no Germans actually wanted a Democracy anyway, seeing as this was the case one cannot hold it against them for having "lapsed" if it meant giving them what they wanted under a Dictatorship which, like Hitler did, gave them a sense of national pride and stability. So again, the excuse that Germany was a "totalitarian state" and thus didn't deserve, under Democratic principles, to have the same rights as everyone else is yet another example of the Allies believing it's their right to decide what other nations should or shouldn't do. That they get to decide the character Germany should've had. They perused this ignorant belief until it culminated in the Second World War, where Germany was destroyed and again forced to be Democratic because it best suited whatever insurgent world order was being concocted by Globalists and Jews.
The French displayed a similar attitude towards Germany:
Concerning the vast majority of Frenchmen, something even more disheartening is the persistence of backwardness, of political fossilism, that consists in believing we can prevent the Germans from having a government according to their own taste, and finally,that we can organize a new Europe, or simply our own security, without or against Germany. All these errors proceed from a presumptuous ignorance, not only about Germany, but about modern Europe and the world in General: an ignorance carefully maintained by an idiotic and mercenary press.
Louis Bertrand, Hitler: A View of the 1935 Reichsparteitag by a Member of the Académie Française (Author House), Pp. xviii.
But why go on this tangent? Because the British not only held inner contradictions regarding their supposed Democratic principles, but also on their treatment of the Jews:
Englishmen of all classes and of all parties were offended by the Nazi treatment of the Jews. Here again, Jews were treated as badly in other countries, and often worse—in Poland, for example, with whom, nevertheless, Great Britain remained on friendly terms. For that matter, there was a good deal of quiet anti-semitism in England. Jews were kept out of many social organizations such as gold clubs, and some of the most famous public schools exercised a numerus clausus against them. Indeed, until Hitler's time Germany had probably been an easier country than most for Jews to rise high in industry and the professions. Once more, it was the reversion to barbarism almost as much as the barbarism itself which made Nazi Germany peculiarly hateful, and some English people were no doubt the more annoyed at having to repudiate the anti-semitism which they had secretly cherished.
A.J.P. Taylor, English History 1914-1945 (London: Book Club Associates, 1977), Pp. 419.
Taylor on the same page goes on to talk about how the Jews in Germany were different because they weren't as poor as Jews in Poland or Russia, that the German Jews were much more cultured is what made the British angry, because they weren't "just any" Jews so to speak. When they entered Britain, he says, they were like "walking propaganda" against the National Socialists.
You can make the connection that because the Jews had it easy prior to the advent of Hitler, that this is what caused the virulent German anti-semitism to arise. Because the Jews had entrenched themselves in Germany and her economic/political institutions to such an extent that they were vastly over-represented in proportion to their percentage of the population. The Jews were in control of much of the media and culture in Germany, while the Germans themselves had become almost second class citizens to these Talmudic parasites. In fact, Robert Gellately echos a similar sentiment, but from a fiercely philo-semitic perspective:
Indeed, until the late 1930s, as many Jews who lived through those times have testified, antisemitism was not the primary concern of the public, most Germans were not rabidly antisemitic, and pushing out the Jews was not the top priority of the German state.16 At the start of the Third Reich, as many Jews who lived there have testified for years on end, they were not social outsiders, certainly not in comparison with pre-emancipation times, and things changed slowly for many of them.17 Jews in Germany were almost universally envied by the Jews in central and eastern Europe, and throughout the Weimar years, and to some extent even earlier, they had more social opportunities (as judges and professors, for example) than most Jews enjoyed even in the United States. Since the legal emancipation of Germany’s Jews in 1871, they had become increasingly well integrated as law-abiding citizens who adopted middle-class values of hard work, clean living, and solid family values.
Robert Gellately, Backing Hitler: Consent and Coercion in Nazi Germany (Oxford University Press, 2001), Pp. 4-5.
It appears to be the case that Jews weren't really welcome anywhere, and for good reasons. How much of this is exaggerated to suit a Jewish victim narrative must also be kept in mind, especially as it's used to further justify Jewish power in white countries, which is used to disenfranchise white people from determining our own destinies. So if there was no "legacy of Anti-Semitism" outside of Germany during this time, then the Jews would have trouble comparing white racial consciousness, and self-affirmation to "the Nazis". They need to make sure that white pride is associated with National Socialist Germany, and furthermore, to inhibit whites from seeing that National Socialism is actually the key to our own salvation.
Joe Kennedy’s Answer to the ‘Jewish Question’: Ship Them to Africa
Joseph P. Kennedy Sr., father of US President John F. Kennedy, suggested sending Germany's Jews to Africa in the 1930s. Kennedy was America’s ambassador to Britain from 1938-40.
Joe Kennedy’s Answer to the ‘Jewish Question’: Ship Them to Africa
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From:In 1938 Joseph Kennedy had a solution to “the Jewish problem.” The New York Times reported that he had worked out with prime minister Chamberlain a plan to ship all German Jews to Africa and other places in the Western Hemisphere under the joint administration of Britain and the United States. That was news to the State Department, which Kennedy had not consulted, and to President Roosevelt for whom Kennedy had become an embarrassing loose cannon.
Joe Kennedy’s Answer to the ‘Jewish Question’: Ship Them to Africa
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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...
— Herbert Spencer
NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...
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