(first of all sorry for my bad english)
Hi guys, a couple of years ago i saw a page on the codoh website which was referring to a study (i think from Mattogno) about the morgues of auschwitz being used as morgues during the time they were supposed to be homicidal gas chambers, there was some real documentary proof of that and of course this totally destroys the holocaust narrative.
Maybe some of you have those documents or do you know where i can find them ?
Auschwitz morgues being used as morgues
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Re: Auschwitz morgues being used as morgues
The first point would be that the blueprints say they are morgues (Leichenkeller). So we know from that alone that the buildings were at the very least not initially designed as gas chambers even though they were planned in mid 1942 and built in early 1943. This forces the hoaxers into arguing that the Germans designed a normal crematorium at the peak of "the Holocaust" and had to shoddily convert one of the morgues into a gas chamber during the construction.
Mattogno has found some documents that further confirm that the facilities in question indeed functioned as morgues. You can find this in his article "The Morgues of the Crematoria at Birkenau in the Light of Documents." I assume these are the ones you are thinking of.
https://codoh.com/library/document/the-morgues-of-the-crematoria-at-birkenau-in-the/en/?page=2
The documents below discuss the problem of temporary corpse storage. Bodies were evidently stored in wooden sheds for a day or two before they could be moved to the crematories and rats would get to the corpses. Under the hoaxer theory the Germans didn't need morgues because they could just burn all the bodies at fantastic rates.
Dr. Wirths to Central Construction Office, 20 Jul 1943
Bischoff’s reply to Wirths, 4 Aug 1943
Bischoff to Jothann, Head of Central Construction Office, 15 May 1944
Jothann, File Memo on meeting regarding the issue, 23 May 1944 (meeting on 22 May)
Dr. Wirths, 25 May 1944 letter
Note that even in 1944 they are still talking about transporting routine deaths to the crematoriums even though they were supposedly gassing AND BURNING thousands of Hungarians every day during this time.
Mattogno has found some documents that further confirm that the facilities in question indeed functioned as morgues. You can find this in his article "The Morgues of the Crematoria at Birkenau in the Light of Documents." I assume these are the ones you are thinking of.
https://codoh.com/library/document/the-morgues-of-the-crematoria-at-birkenau-in-the/en/?page=2
The documents below discuss the problem of temporary corpse storage. Bodies were evidently stored in wooden sheds for a day or two before they could be moved to the crematories and rats would get to the corpses. Under the hoaxer theory the Germans didn't need morgues because they could just burn all the bodies at fantastic rates.
Dr. Wirths to Central Construction Office, 20 Jul 1943
Those camp sections of construction phase II already in use are still lacking corpse chambers made of concrete or brick; it is essential that they be provided urgently.
The wooden sheds currently used for this purpose are strongly subject to rat attacks; on removal of the corpses there is hardly a corpse that does not show signs of this. The rats are strongly attracted by the corpses and are proliferating at a rate, which makes any control measures practically futile. The rat flea is a carrier of the plague. Any case of plague within the camp can have unimaginable consequences for our men as well as for the detainees of concentration camp Auschwitz. This can only be avoided by a hygienically satisfactory conservation of the corpses, accompanied by intensive rat control measures.
Therefore, the Auschwitz SS garrison physician makes the urgent request to build the necessary corpse chambers immediately, even if simple means have to be employed.
Bischoff’s reply to Wirths, 4 Aug 1943
With reference to the above-mentioned letter, please be informed that based on the discussion on Saturday, 31 July 1943, in which SS Standartenführer Dr. Mrugowski, SS Hauptsturmführer Dr. Wirths and the undersigned took part, the construction of dedicated morgues in the individual subsections of the PoW camp, as per the aforementioned request of the SS garrison physician will not be carried out.
SS Standartenführer Mrugowski has decreed during the discussion that the corpses are to be removed twice daily, in the morning and in the evening, into the morgues of the crematoria; in this way, the separate construction of morgues in the individual subsections can be avoided.
Bischoff to Jothann, Head of Central Construction Office, 15 May 1944
SS garrison physician Auschwitz has requested the construction of a solid morgue for construction section II – CC II Auschwitz.
Central Construction Office Auschwitz is ordered to plan the construction in cooperation with Auschwitz local SS administration and to request immediately the means of construction as well as GB-permission.
As justification, letter from SS-Main office of Economic Administration dated May 12, 1944, – copy attached – is to be annexed at top of request.
On account of urgency of execution, works are allowed to be started as of now.
Jothann, File Memo on meeting regarding the issue, 23 May 1944 (meeting on 22 May)
The meeting was called in order to define the location and the size of the c[orpse]-halls requested. It became evident that an inclusion into the present lay-out is problematic. If enough space for the construction of the c[orpse]-halls is to be made available, at least part of the toilet and washing barracks would have to be dismantled. It is however difficult to do without these barracks under the present circumstances.
SS Obersturmbannführer Höß points out that in accordance with a presently valid order, the daily load of c.[orpses] is to be removed daily in the morning by means of a dedicated truck; if this order is carried out, an accumulation of c. cannot arise and therefore the construction of the above-mentioned halls is not imperative. SS Ostubaf. Höß therefore demands not to undertake the construction of the halls under discussion.
Dr. Wirths, 25 May 1944 letter
On July 20, 1943, I brought to the attention of the Central Construction Office of the Waffen-SS and Police Auschwitz the fact that in the women's camp of Auschwitz II and in the camps of construction section II concrete and brick morgues are still missing and that their construction is urgently required in view of the fact that the available wooden sheds are absolutely unsuitable for the conservation of corpses because of the danger of epidemics and because of rat attacks. Improperly stocked corpses will always attract many rats.
In the sick-bays of the camps at cc Auschwitz II a certain number of corpses accumulate daily on a regular basis. While their transportation to the crematoria has been organized and takes place twice a day, in the morning and in the evening, it does happen that on account of the scarcity of vehicles and/or fuel the corpses are not taken care of for 24 hours.
For reasons of hygiene and as a prevention of epidemics, any hospital has a corpse chamber for the short-term storage of bodies as they accumulate. Normally, in common hospitals the number of beds does not exceed 500, whereas in the various sick-bays for the detainees the number of beds amounts to 3-4,000 on average. In my opinion it is therefore patently evident that proper storage space for the numerous bodies must be available.
In my note of July 20, 1943, and in all preceding notes to the Central Construction Office of the Waffen-SS and Police Auschwitz I have requested only the provision of corpse chambers, never the construction of corpse halls in dedicated buildings or sheds; I request steps for the provision of such corpse chambers to be undertaken immediately on account of the urgency of the matter. Otherwise I shall have to advise my superior commander in order to avoid a most serious risk of epidemics for the whole camp caused by the present hygienically unsatisfactory storage of the corpses.
I enclose a sketch showing a corpse chamber. Such chambers are urgently required in the inmate sick-bay of the women's camp, of building section II, subcamps a, b, e and f. These chambers can be either built within the out-patient barracks or attached to them on the outside.
Note that even in 1944 they are still talking about transporting routine deaths to the crematoriums even though they were supposedly gassing AND BURNING thousands of Hungarians every day during this time.
Re: Auschwitz morgues being used as morgues
Here is another one. Quoted from a letter from Bischoff to Wirths dated 4 August 1943 (The truth about the gas Chambers, C.Mattogno). I dont know if it comes from the same document quoted by Archie, but it is loud and clear.
https://codoh.com/library/document/the-truth-about-the-gas-chambers/en/#ftn34
SS-Standartenführer Dr. Mrugowski, over the course of the conversation on 31 July, declared that the bodies had to be carried into the morgues of the crematoria twice a day, in the morning and evening, to be exact. The separate construction of morgues in the individual subsections is therefore rendered superfluous."
https://codoh.com/library/document/the-truth-about-the-gas-chambers/en/#ftn34
Zelan wrote:(first of all sorry for my bad english)
Hi guys, a couple of years ago i saw a page on the codoh website which was referring to a study (i think from Mattogno) about the morgues of auschwitz being used as morgues during the time they were supposed to be homicidal gas chambers, there was some real documentary proof of that and of course this totally destroys the holocaust narrative.
Maybe some of you have those documents or do you know where i can find them ?
Re: Auschwitz morgues being used as morgues
That's exactly what i was looking for, thank you very much !
Re: Auschwitz morgues being used as morgues
here drawing of main camp touristy gas chamber building
Water came down instead of the gas
Re: Auschwitz morgues being used as morgues
Here is the same Mattogno article in German. On page 2, it quotes the same documents in the original German.
http://vho.org/VffG/2003/3/Mattogno365-369.html
http://vho.org/VffG/2003/3/Mattogno365-369.html
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