How did they get to Eric Hunt?

[hermod]

Anyway, if Eric Hunt really wanted to talk to us on this forum, he could/can also do it under a different name. You don't need to know my [or anybody else's] real name to assess the validity or ineptitude of my [or anybody else's] arguments. My arguments would remain as valid or inept as they are if I posted under the name "Hitler Reincarnated" or "Grandson of Himmler." Arguments stand or fall for themselves. Eric Hunt's evasions are getting more and more manifest and laughable if I'm asked. Nobody prevents him from staying in his cozy echo chamber if he wishes, but he could at least stop claiming he's been banned from codoh.

[Darkshine]

I'm sorry to be so negative but isn't all this a little childish and very boring?

Even if Eric comes back here and says his thing what will it prove? He'll say what he's already said, but hopefully in very much fewer words and we'll all criticise his words as silly. Where does that get us all?

Any debate is, IMO, a waste of space and time because they reveal nothing and no one changes their spots.

I appreciate his change of direction and respectfully think it's a load of old tosh, but I respect his right to express his opinion. He's done that and most of us here don't agree so why don't we let sleeping dogs lie...

I respectfully disagree. There are some pretty big issues here, that aren't casually dismissed by all but those who take everything at face value. Eric Hunt was one of the biggest voices in Revisionism. His videos blew my mind, and the minds of the very few I've gotten to watch them. He's iconic and very meaningful. To have him flip on this movement, in such a bizarre fashion, and refuse to discuss it, really calls into question his motives. The exterminists are dancing for joy and it has seriously undermined Eric's credibility. I finally got my Judeophile friend red pilled and the first thing he hits me with, is this story about Eric Hunt. He's already slipping away Uncovering why Eric is doing this seems critically important.

As a separate issue, I think that it's important to determine if Eric cannot access this forum, or if he's lying so that he doesn't have come up with real evidence to support his bogus claims. It has been intimated that the moderator is lying, and I don't think it's fair to impugn the honor of the admins of this site, to justify the accusations of a man who has already exhibited some really bizarre behavior. If Eric truly can't access his account, what is stopping him from messaging an admin, calling, or posting something about it on his site? If he's that outraged at not being 'able' to come here, he would be taking some action. Probably writing a very long-winded and overly-complicated fluff piece like the End of the Line.

[Moderator]

Darkshine:
If Hunt "cannot access this forum" then it's because he doesn't want to.
All the excuses presented here as to why Hunt supposedly cannot post at this forum have been dealt with.
They have no basis in fact, they do not withstand scrutiny.
All the 'Eric forgot this, Eric forgot that' make no sense, as demonstrated.
The case is closed as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks, M1

[Carto's Cutlass Supreme]

Hanover wrote

If Hunt really forgot his password to his email he can / could have simply requested another password from his email service.
That is how all email services work.
Generally it takes about 5-10 seconds.

I have two emails. One is through my internet service provider (ISP) and if I forgot my password it would be no problem getting back into my email. But that is a paid email. I also have a yahoo account that is free. If I forgot the password to that, there'd be no way. Yahoo can't determine who is really who, and so there's too much issue of giving a password to the wrong person, plus as it's free, they don't want to deal with it; what they've done nowadays is try to get you to attach your email to your cellphone number, so then there's a way to retrieve if you lose your password, but I don't think they did that back in 2009 when Eric had that account.
Hermod wrote

if Eric Hunt really wanted to talk to us on this forum, he could/can also do it under a different name.

How would that work? He's Eric Hunt and he'd be posting writing sentences like "well what Eric Hunt probably would say is..." Keep in mind he did create a new account and posted on these threads after he switched positions, and those posts were deleted due to the "no multiple accounts" rule.

[Moderator]

CCS:
Records indicate that Hunt's email is Gmail. 'Forgotten' passwords are no problem at Gmail.

Yes, Gmail is sort of "free", you get the advertising that comes with an account.
They want accounts so they can attract advertisers.
M1

[hermod]

Hermod wrote

if Eric Hunt really wanted to talk to us on this forum, he could/can also do it under a different name.

How would that work? He's Eric Hunt and he'd be posting writing sentences like "well what Eric Hunt probably would say is..." Keep in mind he did create a new account and posted on these threads after he switched positions, and those posts were deleted due to the "no multiple accounts" rule.

He could just choose a neutral name such as "Super Turncoat," "Debbie Lipstadt is such a beauty" or "Help ! I'm being held in a Tel Aviv cellar !!" and say who he is in his first comment. Now that his real identity has been confirmed, I'm not sure that such a game is still necessary. But that was possible. Don't fall for his evasive false excuses.

[Darkshine]

Hanover wrote

If Hunt really forgot his password to his email he can / could have simply requested another password from his email service.
That is how all email services work.
Generally it takes about 5-10 seconds.

I have two emails. One is through my internet service provider (ISP) and if I forgot my password it would be no problem getting back into my email. But that is a paid email. I also have a yahoo account that is free. If I forgot the password to that, there'd be no way. Yahoo can't determine who is really who, and so there's too much issue of giving a password to the wrong person, plus as it's free, they don't want to deal with it; what they've done nowadays is try to get you to attach your email to your cellphone number, so then there's a way to retrieve if you lose your password, but I don't think they did that back in 2009 when Eric had that account.
Hermod wrote

if Eric Hunt really wanted to talk to us on this forum, he could/can also do it under a different name.

How would that work? He's Eric Hunt and he'd be posting writing sentences like "well what Eric Hunt probably would say is..." Keep in mind he did create a new account and posted on these threads after he switched positions, and those posts were deleted due to the "no multiple accounts" rule.

Sorry but again, I have to disagree. I have three Yahoo accounts and they get hacked a lot, with the passwords changed. I've called Yahoo three times (yes called) and they have determined it was me by my security questions, my alternate emails, the last time I checked into it, etc. Even free emails have safeguards. And Yahoo has phone numbers where you can talk to agents who will assist you every time.

[Darkshine]

Darkshine:
If Hunt "cannot access this forum" then it's because he doesn't want to.
All the excuses presented here as to why Hunt supposedly cannot post at this forum have been dealt with.
They have no basis in fact, they do not withstand scrutiny.
All the 'Eric forgot this, Eric forgot that' make no sense, as demonstrated.
The case is closed as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks, M1

Moderator, did you read what I wrote? I think you missed the point of what I was saying, since I was saying this very same thing.

[Carto's Cutlass Supreme]

Hermod wrote,

He could just choose a neutral name such as "Super Turncoat," "Debbie Lipstadt is such a beauty" or "Help ! I'm being held in a Tel Aviv cellar !!" and say who he is in his first comment. Now that his real identity has been confirmed, I'm not sure that such a game is still necessary.

As I've mentioned, he did that, and those comments and account got deleted due to the multiple accounts rule. If he were to do what you said, he'd get deleted. It already happened. I can understand why the rule is there. Suppose Hermod went on a 6 month vacation and didn't check the forum, and a month into it, someone registered as Hermod_1 and said "hey I'm Hermod!" and that's a no no to protect you from being impersonated by someone.

But because Eric is a real person using his real name, there were ways to confirm, in this unusual case. And because the subject of the threads were him, it made it even more pressing that he should be allowed to comment.

[Moderator]

Hermod wrote,

He could just choose a neutral name such as "Super Turncoat," "Debbie Lipstadt is such a beauty" or "Help ! I'm being held in a Tel Aviv cellar !!" and say who he is in his first comment. Now that his real identity has been confirmed, I'm not sure that such a game is still necessary.

As I've mentioned, he did that, and those comments and account got deleted due to the multiple accounts rule. If he were to do what you said, he'd get deleted. It already happened. I can understand why the rule is there. Suppose Hermod went on a 6 month vacation and didn't check the forum, and a month into it, someone registered as Hermod_1 and said "hey I'm Hermod!" and that's a no no to protect you from being impersonated by someone.

But because Eric is a real person using his real name, there were ways to confirm, in this unusual case. And because the subject of the threads were him, it made it even more pressing that he should be allowed to comment.

No, he didn't do that, CCS.
He used 'Eric Hunt2017' & 'Eric Hunt17', nothing like Hermod's suggested 'neutral names'.

Accept it CCS, your queries and excuses have been answered & rebutted, you're beating a dead horse. It's on Eric Hunt.
And frankly, enough is enough.

Everyone, the topic of this thread is "How did they get to Eric Hunt?"
M1

[hermod]

Everyone, the topic of this thread is "How did they get to Eric Hunt?"

Back to the topic of this thread. Wasn't Eric Hunt travelling in Europe (where 'Holocaust denial' is illegal almost everywhere) for the 2nd part of his documentary "Why we believed" when he suddenly joined the other team? I ask this question because a positive answer tends to strengthen the theory of an intimidated [rather than bribed] Eric Hunt, even if a negative answer doesn't invalidate it anyway. If they could arrest Ernst Zündel in the United States and deport him to Canada (where he was held in horrible conditions for no legal reason during 2 long years) and then to Germany (where he was sentenced to the maximum penalty for 'Holocaust denial'), they can get their hands on anybody anywhere. If memory serves me right, they also tried to deport Australian revisionist Fredrick Töben from England to Germany (where imprisonment for several years of course also awaited him) and almost succeeded in doing it. Europe is a dangerous area for Holocaust revisionists, and the latter are not even safe in the European countries where there is no anti-denial law. Eric Hunt recanted in 2008 in order to avoid 6 months in jail. No doubt he could also recant in 2017 in order to avoid 5 years in jail.

[Kingfisher]

I do not suggest that Moderator is lying, but I do respectfully suggest that he is being a bit bloody-minded, jobsworth or whatever. Eric says he can't login and has not succeeded in resetting his password. Moderator says he should be able to reset it like anyone else.

Why will Moderator not act pro-actively here and either:
- reset Eric's password for him using his super-user status,
or, if that isn't possible
- allow Eric to open a new account, either completely new or by unblocking one that is currently blocked because it was a duplicate?

I want Eric to post here and so I think do most people who come here.

[Darkshine]

Everyone, the topic of this thread is "How did they get to Eric Hunt?"

Back to the topic of this thread. Wasn't Eric Hunt travelling in Europe (where 'Holocaust denial' is illegal almost everywhere) for the 2nd part of his documentary "Why we believed" when he suddenly joined the other team? I ask this question because a positive answer tends to strengthen the theory of an intimidated [rather than bribed] Eric Hunt, even if a negative answer doesn't invalidate it anyway. If they could arrest Ernst Zündel in the United States and deport him to Canada (where he was held in horrible conditions for no legal reason during 2 long years) and then to Germany (where he was sentenced to the maximum penalty for 'Holocaust denial'), they can get their hands on anybody anywhere. If memory serves me right, they also tried to deport Australian revisionist Fredrick Töben from England to Germany (where imprisonment for several years of course also awaited him) and almost succeeded in doing it. Europe is a dangerous area for Holocaust revisionists, and the latter are not even safe in the European countries where there is no anti-denial law. Eric Hunt recanted in 2008 in order to avoid 6 months in jail. No doubt he could also recant in 2017 in order to avoid 5 years in jail.

Isn't it crazy that Germany sends people to jail for questioning the Holocaust? You would think more people would wonder why feel so threatened by questions and investigations. I really don't understand how Germany was so effectively brainwashed. The Germans should have known that these stories were false from the start. They should have seen the nonsense in the Nuremberg trials. They should have wondered why their people were kidnapped to Israel. How did the people not collectively stand up and exclaim, "This never happened!"? It seems so bizarre to me that an entire group of people were spoon fed lies, and actually swallowed.

[Moderator]

I do not suggest that Moderator is lying, but I do respectfully suggest that he is being a bit bloody-minded, jobsworth or whatever. Eric says he can't login and has not succeeded in resetting his password. Moderator says he should be able to reset it like anyone else.

Why will Moderator not act pro-actively here and either:
- reset Eric's password for him using his super-user status,
or, if that isn't possible
- allow Eric to open a new account, either completely new or by unblocking one that is currently blocked because it was a duplicate?

I want Eric to post here and so I think do most people who come here.

The answer again is no, the reasons have been explained repeatedly.
I respectfully suggest that you have been duped.
Eric can post here when he's ready, it's on him.
Please, let's get back on topic.
M1

[Hektor]

Befor...
Killing methods

Holocaust or Hoax book Jurgen Graf. 55
If we trace the evolution of the Holocaust yarn over the years since 1942, we stumble across one surprise after the other. In particular, innumerable methods of mass killing of which there is not the slightest mention in the later literature, are described in the most graphic detail, particularly:
a) Pneumatic hammers
This method is described as follows in a report of the Polish resistance movement on Auschwitz (23):
"When the Kommandos went to work, they led them into the courtyard in the penal company where the executions took place by means of a 'pneumatic hammer'. They bound the prisoners' hands together behind their backs and brought them in, one after the other, naked, into the courtyard. They placed them in front of the barrel of an air gun, which was discharged without a sound. The hammer crushed the skull, and the compressed air destroyed the entire brain."

b) Electric baths
As reported by the Polish resistance movement, the following method was also commonly used in Auschwitz (24):
"According to the report of an SS officer, the number of victims in the electrical chambers amounted, unofficially, to 2,500 per night. The executions took place in electrical baths..."

c) Electrical assembly line killing
Another variant was described by Pravda on 2 February, five days after the liberation of Auschwitz:
"They (the Germans) opened up the so-called 'old graves' in the eastern part of the camp, removed the bodies, and wiped out the trace of the assembly linekilling installation where hundreds of people were killed simultaneously with electrical current."

d) Atomic bombs
At the Nuremberg Trial, US prosecutor Robert Jackson made the following accusation (25):
"A village, a small village was provisionally erected, with temporary structures, and in it approximately 20,000 Jews were put. By means of this newly invented weapon of destruction, these 20,000 people were eradicated almost instantaneously, and in such a way that there was no trace left of them; the explosive used developing temperatures of from four to five hundred degrees Centigrade."

e) Burning alive
Elie Wiesel, honored with the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986, was interned at Auschwitz from the spring of 1944 until January 1945. In his memoirs of the camp, La Nuit, published in 1958, he never mentions the gas chambers -- not once, not with one single word -- even though 400,000 Hungarian Jews, among others, are said to have been gassed during his period of internment. (In the German translation, which appeared under the title of Die Nacht zu begraben, Elischa, the gas chambers nevertheless make a miraculous appearance, for the simple reason that, whenever the word "crématoire" appears in the original, the translator has mistranslated it as "Gaskammer"). According to Wiesel, the Jews were exterminated in the following manner (26):
"Not far from us blazed flames from a pit, gigantic flames. They were burning something. A lorry drove up to the pit and dumped its load into the pit. They were small children. Babies! Yes, I had seen it, with my own eyes...Children in the flames (is it any wonder, that sleep shuns my eyes since that time?). We went there, too. Somewhat further along, was another, bigger pit, for adults. 'Father', I said, 'if that is so, I wish to wait no longer. I shall throw myself against the electrified barbed wire fence. That is better than lying around in the flames for hours'."
How little Elie survived lying around in the flames for hours, by some miracle, will be revealed below.

f) Steam chambers
In December 1945, at the Nuremberg Trial the following accusation was made regarding the mass killings at Treblinka (27):
"All victims had to strip off their clothes and shoes, which were collected afterwards, whereupon all victims, women and children first, were driven into the death chambers... After being filled to capacity, the chambers were hermetically closed and steam was let in. In a few minutes all was over... From reports received may be assumed that several hundred thousands of Jews have been exterminated in Treblinka."

g) Suffocation by pumping all the air out of the death chambers
This method was described by the Soviet-Jewish writer Vassily Grossman at Treblinka.

h) Quicklime trains
At Belzec the Jews were killed according to eyewitness Jan Karski as follows (29):
"The floors of the car had been covered with a thick, white powder. It was quicklime. Quicklime is simply unslaked lime or calcium oxide that has been dehydrated. Anyone who has seen cement being mixed knows what occurs when water is poured on lime. The mixture bubbles and steams as the powder combines with the water, generating a large amount of heat. Here the lime served a double purpose in the Nazi economy of brutality. The moist flesh coming in contact with the lime is rapidly dehydrated and burned. The occupants of the cars would be literally burned to death before long, the flesh eaten from their bones. Thus, the Jews would "die in agony"", fulfilling the promise Himmler had issued "in accord with the will of the Fuehrer", in Warsaw, in 1942. Secondly, the lime would prevent decomposing bodies from spreading disease. It was efficient and inexpensive - a perfectly chosen agent for their purposes.

It took three hours to fill up the entire train by repetitions of this procedure. It was twilight when the forty six (I counted them) cars were packed. From one end to the other, the train, with its quivering cargo of flesh, seemed to throb, vibrate, rock, and jump as if bewitched. There would be a strangely uniform momentary lull and then, again, the train would begin to moan and sob, wail, and how. Inside the camp a few score dead bodies remained and a few in the final throes of death. German policemen walked around at leisure with smoking guns, pumping bullets into anything that by single motion betrayed an excess of vitality. Soon, not a single one was left alive. In the now quiet camp the only sounds were the inhuman screams that were echoes from the moving train. Then these, too, ceased. All that was now left was the stench of excrement and rotting straw and a queer, sickening, acidulous odour which, I thought, may have come from the quantities of blood that had been let, and with which the ground was stained. As I listened to the dwindling outcries from the train, I thought of the destination toward which it was speeding. My informants had minutes described the entire journey. The train would travel about eighty miles and finally come to a halt in an empty, barren field. Then nothing at all would happen. The train would stand stock-still, patiently waiting until death had penetrated into every corner of its interior. This would take from two to four days."
This Jan Karski was, by the way, appointed to chair a committee for "Scientific Research on the Holocaust" along with Elie Wiesel.

i) Chambers with submergible, electrified flooring. Stefan Szende, a Doctor of Philosophy, describes the extermination of the Jews at Belzec quite differently:
"The death factory comprises an area approximately 7 km in diameter... The trains filled with Jews entered a tunnel into the underground rooms of the execution factory... The naked Jews were brought into gigantic halls. Several thousand people at one time could fit into these halls. The halls had no floor. The floor was of metal and was submergible. The floors of these halls, with their thousands of Jews, sank into a basin of water which lay beneath -- but only far enough so that the people on the metal plate were not entirely under water. When all the Jews on the metal plate were in the water up to over their hips, electrical current was sent through the water. After a few moments, all the Jews, thousands at once, were dead. Then they raised the metal plate out of the water. On it lay the corpses of the murder victims. Another shock of electrical current was sent through, and the metal plate became a crematory oven, white hot, until all the bodies were burnt to ashes... Each individual train brought three to five thousand, sometimes more, Jews. There were days on which the lines to Belzec supplied twenty or more trains. Modern technology triumphed in the Nazi system. The problem of how to execute millions of people, was solved."

j) Blood poisoning
This method, described on 7 February 1943 in the New York Times ("... gas chambers and blood poisoning stations which were erected in the rural regions..."), appears to have gone into oblivion as soon as it was invented.

k) Drowning
According to the Israeli Holocaust specialist Yehuda Bauer, the Rumanians in Odessa murdered 144,000 Soviet Jews, mostly by drowning (31). The same method of extermination was testified to by the underground press agent for the Warsaw ghetto, as well as for Babi Yar (32):
"Not a single Jew remains in Kiev, since the Germans have thrown the entire Jewish population of Kiev into the Dnieper."
l) Chlorine gas, assembly-line shootings, boiling water, acids
Mass murders with chlorine gas, as well as assembly line shootings were reported for Treblinka (33). Reports of massacres with acids and boiling water round make a complete assortment of killing methods (34).
The exterminationists no longer wish to be reminded of all these stories today. At that time, however, they were considered to be "proven fact" -- "proven" by the testimonies of "eyewitnesses" -- just like the gas chambers, which have been placed a under legal protection order in several "free democracies".

I hope all that was educational for you for future discussions....
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Seems they threw the most silly allegations under the bus and kept the less obvious frauds for "historiography".
Unfortunately for them there are some people that can reason scientifically and look through complex claims methodologically. So they get debunked, too.