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Eichmann Denied Knowledge of the Death Figures

Postby Revision » 1 year 5 months ago (Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:40 am)

Wikipedia: The Holocaust:
The most commonly cited death toll is the six million given by Adolf Eichmann to SS member Wilhelm Höttl, who signed an affidavit mentioning this figure in 1945.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust



Haaretz: Holocaust Facts: Where Does the Figure of 6 Million Victims Come From?:
The number seems to have first been mentioned by Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, an Austrian-born official in the Third Reich and a trained historian who served in a number of senior positions in the SS.
- https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holocaus ... -1.5319546








The Trial of Adolf Eichmann - Session 87: https://web.archive.org/web/20200105122 ... 87-06.html
DR. SERVATIUS: "But in his testimony, Hoettl stated that you gave him various figures. You are familiar with his statement. Would you please comment."


ACCUSED [EICHMANN]: "If Hoettl is here using figures, I must comment that no one received such figures from me, because I myself had none. In this connection it is odd that everyone claims to have received figures from me - one person says it was five million, the other six million, and as far as his concentration camp was concerned, Hoess talks of two and a half million. I am supposed to have given this [2,5 million] figure to Gluecks [according to Hoess]. But I did not know of these figures - Gluecks is the person who was first and foremost aware of them, not I."

"This is all idle talk which was bandied about at Nuremberg, or wherever. I did not give any such figures, for the simple reason that I did not have them."





From Eichmann Interrogated: Transcripts from the Archives of the Israeli Police (Book by Jochen von Lang), p. 104:
LESS: You say you had nothing to do with the killing?

EICHMANN: That's right.

LESS: But you delivered the people to be killed.

EICHMANN: Yes, sir, that is true, insofar as I received orders to evacuate them. But not all the people I evacuated were killed. I had no knowledge whatever of who was killed and who was not.




Mark Weber on the issue (Wilhelm Höttl and the Elusive ‘Six Million’): http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n5p25_Weber.html
The legendary figure was fixed in history at the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, where it was cited by chief British prosecutor Sir Hartley Shawcross in his closing address, and by the Allied judges in their final judgment. / 7

This figure was not the result of any careful investigation, research, or calculation. The only specific evidence presented for it to the Nuremberg Tribunal was the hearsay testimony of former SS officer Wilhelm Höttl (sometimes spelled Hoettl), who said that he recalled it from a remark by Adolf Eichmann, the wartime head of the Jewish affairs section of Himmler's Reich Security Main Office (RSHA). Höttl, who also served with the RSHA during the war, stated in an affidavit dated November 26, 1945, and provided to the U.S. prosecution at Nuremberg, that Eichmann confided to him in August 1944 that some four million Jews had been killed in the “various extermination camps,” and another two million had been killed in other ways, mostly in shootings by Einsatzgruppen forces in the course of the military campaign in Russia. / 8

Eichmann himself, it should be noted, later called the Höttl story “nonsense,” vigorously denied ever having made the alleged remark, and speculated that Höttl may have picked up the figure from a radio or newspaper report. / 9



[And about Hoetll's trustworthiness:]

The recently released U.S. intelligence documents on Höttl, and the U.S. government report about his postwar career, confirm what some revisionist scholars have contended for years. In his book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, first published in 1976, Dr. Arthur Butz cited sources that were publicly available even in the 1950s to show that, during the war, Höttl had gotten into trouble more than once with SS authorities. His involvement in a shady Polish land deal led in 1942 to an SS investigation of his activities. An internal SS report characterized him as “dishonest, scheming, fawning,... a real hoaxer,” and concluded that he was not fit even for SS membership, let alone a sensitive intelligence service position. / 11 Höttl was, accordingly, demoted. But his luck improved after his friend and fellow Austrian, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, was appointed in 1943 to head the RSHA. It seems that Kaltenbrunner protected him from a second disciplinary action, this one for misappropriation of security service funds.

[...]

In April 2001 the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency made public thousands of pages of long-suppressed documents from its files of major German wartime figures, including the bulging Höttl file. Along with the release of these documents, two U.S. government employees wrote and issued a detailed report about Höttl based on those recently declassified CIA files, which sheds revealing light on his wartime and postwar career. This report, entitled “Analysis of the Name File of Wilhelm Hoettl,” was written by two “historical researchers” of the U.S. government's “Interagency Working Group” (IWG), Miriam Kleiman and Robert Skwirot. / 10

These documents establish that Höttl was a completely unreliable informant who routinely fabricated information to please those who were willing to pay him. In their report, the two U.S. government researchers write: “Hoettl's name file is approximately 600 pages, one of the largest of those released to the public so far. The size of the file owes to Hoettl's postwar career as a peddler of intelligence, good and bad, to anyone who would pay him. Reports link Hoettl to twelve different intelligence services, including the U.S., Yugoslav, Austrian, Israeli, Romanian, Vatican, Swiss, French, West German, Russian, Hungarian and British.”

Soon after his arrest by the Americans in May 1945, Höttl began working for the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the predecessor to the Central Intelligence Agency, and then for the U.S. Army's Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC). As the two U.S. government researchers put it: “Upon his arrest, Hoettl played to the interests of his captors ...” It was during this period, while he was secretly working for American intelligence, that Höttl provided his historic and damning “six million” affidavit for submission by the American prosecution at the Allied-run tribunal at Nuremberg.

Höttl benefited from his readiness to tell those who paid him what they wanted to hear, but this eventually proved his undoing. All the same, it took several years for U.S. intelligence to firmly conclude that it was being had.

In June 1949 one U.S. intelligence official cautioned against using Höttl for any reason, calling him “a man of such low character and poor political record that his use for intelligence activities, regardless of how profitable they may be, is a short-sighted policy by the U.S.” In August 1950, CIA messages referred to Höttl as a “notorious fabricator [of] intelligence.” A U.S. Army CIC report in early 1952 deemed his information useless, noting that Höttl “is involved in extensive intelligence activities for almost anyone who is willing to purchase his findings.” In April 1952 his reports were called “worthless and possibly inflated or fabricated.”

Interestingly, numerous U.S. intelligence reports identify connections between Höttl and Simon Wiesenthal, the well-known “Nazi hunter.” One U.S. Army CIC document described Wiesenthal as the “Chief Austrian Agent of the Israeli Intelligence Bureau.” A U.S. Army CIC report in January 1950 noted that for the last three or four months Wiesenthal had “recruited the services of Wilhelm Höttl,” and had hired him to gather information for reports by the “Nazi hunter.”

In July 1952, when U.S. Army intelligence finally broke completely with Höttl, a letter on U.S. Army stationery warned: “Dr. Höttl has long been known to this headquarters and other allied military organizations in Austria as a fabricator of intelligence information. His reports normally consist of a fine cobweb of fact, heavily padded with lies, deceit, conjecture and other false types of information. This organization will have absolutely nothing to do with Dr. Höttl or any members of his present entourage. He is persona non grata to the American, French and British elements in Austria.”

In their report on his postwar career, U.S. government historical researchers Kleiman and Skwirot conclude: “The voluminous materials in Wilhelm Höttl's personality file ... trace the activities of a notorious intelligence peddler and fabricator, who successfully convinced one intelligence service after another of his value, and then proceeded to lose such support.”

Indeed, and as already noted, Höttl “successfully convinced” the American and British prosecutors, and the judges, of the inter-Allied tribunal in Nuremberg, and many others around the world ever since, that German authorities killed six million Jews during the Second World War. And even though U.S. intelligence services and U.S. government researchers have, finally, as it were, discredited him, Höttl's most historically important claim remains widely, and even officially accepted.



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Re: Eichmann Denied Knowledge of the Death Figures

Postby Lamprecht » 1 year 5 months ago (Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:47 pm)

In a memo Eichmann wrote during the war, he described the "Final Solution" as a resettlement program. From:
War-time German documents & writings mentioning the "Final Solution" viewtopic.php?p=93550#p93550
Lamprecht wrote:On 4 December 1940, Eichmann wrote a memo in which he evaluated the volume of Jewish immigration in the Reich territories and considered the Resettlement of almost 5.8 million Jews as the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question"

German text: https://archive.is/2facM
Also found here on page 336: https://books.google.com/books?id=u8bpB ... &q&f=false
BArch, NS 19/3979

Handwritten notes by Adolf Eichmann (initialled) from 4.12.1940

The Jewish Question [handwritten note: ”Immediate presentation RFSS"]

I. Initial solution of the Jewish question through emigration (through transferring the initiative from the Jewish political organisations to the Security Police and 5D).

a) The efforts undertaken until now have yielded the following emigration

from the Old Reich since 1933: 341,078 Jews
from the East Mark since 1933: 135,547 Jews
from the Protectorate since 1939: 25,086 Jews
Total: 501,711 Jews

b) To fund the emigration, foreign currency amounting to around 7.200.000 dollars was raised, which to a large part entered the country through the donation channels of foreign Jewish organisations and the foreign relatives of Jews, and was used for enforcing the emigration.

c) Decrease in the numbers of Jews through natural decline (in the Old Reich since 1933, in the East Mark since 1938, in the Protectorate since 1939)

overall mortality: 70,792
overall births: 13,756
mortality surplus: 57,036

d) The total number of Jews still resident in the Reich territory (including the Protectorate) as defined by the Nuremberg Laws, amounts therefore to 315,642 Jews

II. The final solution of the Jewish question.

Through resettling Jews from the European economic area of the German people to a territory yet to be determined. Within the framework of this project, around 5.8 million Jews come into consideration.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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NOTE: I am taking a leave of absence from revisionism to focus on other things. At this point, the ball is in their court to show the alleged massive pits full of human remains at the so-called "extermination camps." After 8 decades they still refuse to do this. I wonder why...

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Re: Eichmann Denied Knowledge of the Death Figures

Postby Archie » 1 year 4 months ago (Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:02 pm)

If Hoettl is here using figures, I must comment that no one received such figures from me, because I myself had none. In this connection it is odd that everyone claims to have received figures from me - one person says it was five million, the other six million, and as far as his concentration camp was concerned, Hoess talks of two and a half million. I am supposed to have given this [2,5 million] figure to Gluecks [according to Hoess]. But I did not know of these figures - Gluecks is the person who was first and foremost aware of them, not I.


It was Wisliceny who gave the five million number, and, yes, he also claimed Eichmann to be his source. So we are to believe Eichmann was keeping track of such statistics and gave two people different figures. The only German statistical report on the Jewish population is the one from Korherr and it was from early 1943. There's no known report done at the end of the war (because there wasn't one). And Hoess's story about the 2.5M is obviously bogus because the figure is so inflated.

LESS: But you delivered the people to be killed.

EICHMANN: Yes, sir, that is true, insofar as I received orders to evacuate them. But not all the people I evacuated were killed. I had no knowledge whatever of who was killed and who was not.


One thing that's interesting if you read G.M. Gilbert's book (the Jewish Nuremberg psychologist) is that there were efforts to convince the Nazis leaders themselves of their guilt. Gilbert seems to have debated the matter with Goering and Gilbert tried to use Hoess's confessions as evidence. Eichmann was also subjected to this and of course had been exposed to lots of holocaust material including Reitlinger's book which he had studied. In some cases, the defendants seemed to be legitimately confused over what was happening in the camps.

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Re: Eichmann Denied Knowledge of the Death Figures

Postby Revision » 1 year 4 months ago (Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:56 am)

This is what Eichmann said about Wisliceny:
LESS: On the one hand, when Wisliceny says here: "The knowledge of having five million Jews on his [Eichmann's] conscience gave him such extraordinary satisfaction that ..."

EICHMANN: No, no, Herr Hauptmann, that I must reject, that I must really reject. That sentence is not at all my style. And besides, it wouldn't have been true. My men would have taken me for a megalomaniac, because they knew I hadn't killed five million Jews. Wisliceny knew as well as I did that killing wasn't in our department.
- Eichmann Interrogated: Transcripts from the Archives of the Israeli Police (Book by Jochen von Lang), p. 165

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Wisliceny also claimed that there was "a written order ordering the physical extermination of the Jews". Even the orthodox Holocaust historians do not usually believe this.
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Re: Eichmann Denied Knowledge of the Death Figures

Postby hermod » 1 year 3 months ago (Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:26 pm)

Lamprecht wrote:In a memo Eichmann wrote during the war, he described the "Final Solution" as a resettlement program.
Lamprecht wrote:On 4 December 1940, Eichmann wrote a memo in which he evaluated the volume of Jewish immigration in the Reich territories and considered the Resettlement of almost 5.8 million Jews as the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question"

German text: https://archive.is/2facM
Also found here on page 336: https://books.google.com/books?id=u8bpB ... &q&f=false
BArch, NS 19/3979

Handwritten notes by Adolf Eichmann (initialled) from 4.12.1940

The Jewish Question [handwritten note: ”Immediate presentation RFSS"]


Just in case anybody wants to save it for archival purposes...

"[Austen Chamberlain] has done western civilization a great service by refuting at least one of the slanders against the Germans
because a civilization which leaves war lies unchallenged in an atmosphere of hatred and does not produce courage in its leaders to refute them
is doomed.
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Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, on the public admission by Britain's Foreign Secretary that the WWI corpse-factory story was false, December 4, 1925


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